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Of these about But how can we recognize a Schlueter from a McCord? The most immediate dating mccord m1 helmet is to verify if under the front brim the producer has put his marking.

Here below there are three examples: Often though the producer mark is very faint, scratched away or missing in Schlueters as well. Besides it is not always possible to have a hand-on inspection, you simply have to rely on pictures from your monitor. So, what other elements are distinctive for the two manufacturers? On the left a Schlueter, on the right a McCord. This becomes more evident from a look: The colour of the finish and dating mccord m1 helmet of the cork may differ amongst helmets of the same producer.

Generally though Schlueters have a lighter shade of green and the cork a little more bristly. One more detail to take into account: Look at the following pictures. In general spot welds near the front seam of the rim are more oval on the McCord on the right. The same difference can be noticed sometimes in the swivel bales hooks spot welds: And last but not least in the fixed bales type the hooks themselves are a distinctive element, being more squared in the McCord and with more prominent foots in the Schlueter.

I dating mccord m1 helmet below two shells, find which one is the Schlueter and which is dating mccord m1 helmet McCord. Well, not always you can count upon clear, and detailed photos. If you liked this article and you want to add your contribution write me: A well trained eye can distinguish the producers from the shape of the shell, the colour and some other minor details.


Dating the US M1. In both cases the straps are stitched to the loops. The use of clasps is postwar. Under the brim there is a number indicating the production lot. If this number is between 0 and then we have a WW2 era shell. Wartime shells are a little taller, in a darker shade of green. Since dating mccord m1 helmet production began, until the colour of the straps attached to the shell was the olive drab 3, frommostly on Schlueters, the shells started to be fitted with straps colour olive drab 7.

However straps OD 3 can be found in rear seam late war examples Postwar helmets have attached straps colour OD 7.

Mid war helmets were fitted with blackend steel buckle with simplified design. Late war helmets have a blackened brass buckle with simplified design. This is true for the liner as well. First of all the producers: All other high pressure liner: Both were produced from April to November The straps dating mccord m1 helmet the A washers: All postwar chinstraps are made of blackened steel, are marked DOT on the rivets and usually bear a anchor under the flip tab of the buckle.

Now you should be able to understand at a glance what kind frankfurt ü30 single party of helmet you are observing, at least if it is a WW2 era M1 frankfurt ü30 single party or later.

Try looking at the pics underneath and guess what it is: Both were produced dating mccord m1 helmet April to November Below: Dating the US M1 A basic guide.


Original WW2 US M1 Helmets

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Dating the M1 Steel Helmet By Scott Robinson: Bales: Fixed: July: Sept: Swivel/Flexible: Oct: End.
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Top Pots is the place find the restored M1 helmet for your The M-2 helmet was only made by McCord and only, M-2 helmet shells HELMET SHELL DATING.
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How to date WWII and Later US M1 Helmets. This is true for McCord Radiator manufactured shells, US WW2 M1 Helmet Net Cover Army Paratrooper Original with.
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Schlueter Vs McCord. In World War II the production of the M1 helmet began in June and ceased in September Dating M1 - Schlueter Vs McCord.
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McCord helmet stamp production date - posted in STEEL AND KEVLAR HELMETS: There is a dating chart in one of the M1 helmet books.
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#1 Eagle's Nest

Posted

Hello

The heat stamp is 227A I think - what would be the aprox date of manufacture?

Thanks

Chris


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#2 flyer333555

Posted

Hello

The heat stamp is 227A I think - what would be the aprox date of manufacture?

Thanks

Chris

It has been stated several other messages in this board the heat stamp cannot be used as date indication.

:unsure:

More to the point are the:

1) rim butt-front or back?
2) bales-are they fixed or swivel?
3) straps-OD 3 or OD 7?

Give this info, it will help us to give a more accurate date.

:rolleyes:

Or the mods will point to where you can find this info for yourself...

:think:

Edited by flyer333555, 15 April 2010 - 10:22 AM.


#3 Eagle's Nest

Posted

It has been stated several other messages in this board the heat stamp cannot be used as date indication.

:unsure:

More to the point are the:

1) rim butt-front or back?
2) bales-are they fixed or swivel?
3) straps-OD 3 or OD 7?

Give this info, it will help us to give a more accurate date.

:rolleyes:

Or the mods will point to where you can find this info for yourself...

:think:


Hi - sorry, I did look through previous posts but must have missed the one/s you're referring to.

Okay, it's front seam, OD3 straps, fixed bail.

Thanks

Chris


#4 flyer333555

Posted

Hi - sorry, I did look through previous posts but must have missed the one/s you're referring to.

Okay, it's front seam, OD3 straps, fixed bail.

Thanks

Chris

Ok, I hope the mods can post more accurate info like the messages where this info shows. Based on your info, can be between 1941-1943, 43 as the latest...

Hope this vague info helps.

Luis


#5 ClaptonIsGod

Posted

Many view this chart as an unreliable/false source, but the heat stamp chart in the book Helmets of the ETO puts your number to around middle 1942.


#6 sgtdorango

Posted

There is a dating chart in one of the M1 helmet books....some people dont believe in it and it is not a completely perfect way to date the helmet but it works for some...yours with a heat stamp of 227A comes up July 1942.......mike


#7 ClaptonIsGod

Posted

There is a dating chart in one of the M1 helmet books....some people dont believe in it and it is not a completely perfect way to date the helmet but it works for some...yours with a heat stamp of 227A comes up July 1942.......mike


Jinx! :)

#8 Eagle's Nest

Posted

Great, thanks guys.

Chris


#9 sgtdorango

Posted

Jinx! :)

Hahahaha!! :lol:

#10 Bugme

Posted

Many view this chart as an unreliable/false source...

While the chart produced in Helmets Of The ETO by forum members and authors Regis Giard(Hill 84) and Frederic Blais(tweedie) is a great reference, it is not 100% accurate but, is close enough to get you within a 3 to 6 month range of production for the most part. Some of the early heat stamps have shown up on later helmets but, this seems to be a rare production anomaly and not the norm. That said, yes, your helmet looks to have been made in the summer of 42.

#11 Eagle's Nest

Posted

While the chart produced in Helmets Of The ETO by forum members and authors Regis Giard(Hill 84) and Frederic Blais(tweedie) is a great reference, it is not 100% accurate but, is close enough to get you within a 3 to 6 month range of production for the most part. Some of the early heat stamps have shown up on later helmets but, this seems to be a rare production anomaly and not the norm. That said, yes, your helmet looks to have been made in the summer of 42.


Thanks for the information, much appreciated.

Chris


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  1. 09-10-2012 05:04 PM

    Hi,

    I was wondering if anyone would know the approximately the date of a McCord front seam, swivel bail helmet with a heat stamp of 861H (unless I read it upside down and it is H198)?

    The book I ordered is taking a while to arrive. Also would the liner be any paticular manufacturer(s) for this helmet or anyone of the manufacturers?



    Thanks, James

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  5. 09-17-2012 07:32 PM

    861 looks to be from about March of 1944. 198 would be too early as it gives a date of approx June 1942


  6. 10-02-2012 12:36 AM

    The liners could be from any of the manufacturers.


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