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lightblue

25th July 2012, 00:23

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whether you lucid dream or travel astrally, you may want to hear about it from a veteran in the field ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bruce_%28author%29

not sure what to make of it myself, but in either case, it's an interesting angle of looking at things....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEPN19lODV8

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KristenAnn

25th July 2012, 02:36

I happened to discover an amazing author. His thoughts & wisdom are very deep -- very "esoteric". One of the books I bought was "Battling Dark Forces: A Guide to Psychic Self-Defense", by Torkom Saraydarian. I love the depth of his thoughts. I've gotten several of his books.

I've looked thru it. Looks excellent. Then a friend borrowed it. (I've actually got SO many books to read, so I let her read this one first.)

flower

25th July 2012, 08:36

I use purple bubbles

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb212/star24354/LADIES/LadyInPurpleBubbles.gif

alienHunter

25th July 2012, 12:47

i love that picture...

KristenAnn

25th July 2012, 13:55

Flower! Love that! Purple bubbles! And the image is wonderful. :yes4:

From Flower "I use purple bubbles."

KristenAnn

25th July 2012, 16:49

OH MY GOSH! OH MY GOSH! He just mentioned the excellent defense protector that Frankincense is!!! Oh MY GOSH! Two days ago I took out a charming antique Egyptian incense burner. For many years after the wick burned out, I couldn't find one tiny enough for it. I put a tiny wick in 2 days ago & opened an old Twinings Tea tin from the Mid-East with Arab writing on the lid. (Both such old artifacts. I felt like ms. Indiana Jones!) :) Inside I knew were tiny rocks of old Egyptian incense. I thought it was Myrrh. Turns out there was a note inside saying it's Frankincense! So I burned it for the 1st time in this ancient-looking Egyptian burner. SUCH AN AMBIANCE it created! AND I JUST LOVED the subtle scent!

I had bought incense like this in '97 when I first climbed Mt. Sinai! The monks in St. Catherine's monastery at the base of Mt. Sanai sold it (thos monks, by the way, have kept the "burning bush". They still have it, or its progeny over the millennia. Looks kind of like a large green bush with long vine-like branches growing from it. They keep it on a raised wall-like area so visitors don't reach it + take cuttings of it.) I forgot about this old tin of incense rocks that my grandmother had brought back from there decades ago when she was visiting! Had NO IDEA it was the SAME TYPE of incense!!

Anyway! I LOVED that incense I bought from that monastery! It had SUCH an uplifting quality -- and created SUCH a special ambiance! I was thrilled when I went again 2 years later & could buy more. But I've been out of it & have thought of it longingly over the years. WELL, NOW I HAVE A whole tin of it!!!! I'm so excited! And it's so interesting that it seems to be one of or THE most powerful tools to eliminate unwanted energies from your space! :meeting:

When I was a child I had a chemist uncle who worked in Arabia for the Aramco oil co. in the '50s-'70s. His whole family lived there. They & visiting grandparents & aunts would bring back artifacts, interesting things, stories & photos from there. My cousins told me stories of being there, and I'd dream of going exploring and finding ancient artifacts in the desert. (In my childhood dreams I'd always be back for dinner tho :yes4: !)

This Frankincense looks like tiny yellow rocks. Lastnite & put the rocks/pebbles in the burner, but today I ground some to see if it would produce a stronger scent. Here are 2 photos. The first is how it looks unlit. The 2nd is lit. You can see the lovely park outside my 3rd floor window reflecting on the glass desktop.4369
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flower

26th July 2012, 01:08

Wow... what a stunning incense burner...

KristenAnn

26th July 2012, 02:26

Yeah, it is Flower. So glad I have it. :yes4: What an interesting synchronicity to find it now and to use incense that turned out to be Frankincense when I had just gotten the book on psychic defense & portection. And the guy in the video here says Frankincense is the most powerful or one of the most powerful protections.

Odah

26th July 2012, 05:58

my guides did not allow me to do any astral traval .. nor much lucid dreaming ..it was just a very strong internal warning that something could easily move in here while i was out there .. and this was back before i started going crazy lol ..part of me is rooted in the astral .. i have alway had a picture of a winged lion in my head protecting a certain area .and hunting down any demonic energies that invaded ..

I am also empathic and though i am shut down with most people ..It is terribly difficult to have a sense of somones emotions in front of you.. and with the autisim.. really not be able to read the emotions you want them to see ..i have really never learned to cope face to face..but with some (women ) with certain eyes ..it open up and i get a sence..and normally there is a curious response ..but it is usually where nothing can be mentioned ..

no lately i have been slipping into a semi meditive state..and enerting an astral type environment that is sort of like advance virtual reality i get to shape and mold the environment and place things where i want .. there is also elements of shapeshifting rapidly that i partake in as i move through the environment .. and day by day i am getting a lot more um detailed and crisp imagery ..i amd starting to feel a sort of melded condition where information is flowing through me as i am aware of it and being incorperated ..in the imagery .. it's fun to walk in the future .. or alternate possible perception of reality ..

the key to it has been to completely violate what your mind normally accepts as possible or purge some kinds of real world precepts .. because it's more interetsing to merge somewhat demonic and angelic scapes together ..

clingy little grubs exist thing that can follow you back and cause weird event in the real world exist ..and sometimes if your extremly unlucky you can get lost out there for a bit ..but i thing the getting lost has to do more with weather it;s a drug induced experience ..

I think i was prevented from all of that because i kind of would have wanted to stay and play ..to much .. and without any safeguards or knowlege of what to expect ..

interstingly enough i can connect with people energy and sense them no matter where on the planet they are .. just those i can.. are few and far between i found a teacher on youtube who had some good stuff and managed to connect with her got some good energy back then a burst of healing energy ..this was done without any other contact so i sent her a thank you ..and she said yeah she felt it happen the interesting part .. is she is real pretty and for me it is odd for my mind not to wander into those grounds .. but that path thought path got blocked ..which really made me curios.. come to find out she is married .. so it made sense lol ..but is interesting that when there is a consious connection.. even what should be private pondering .. gets prevented .

Odah

26th July 2012, 06:01

odd .. i hit enter and the post when up in a completely different order than i wrote it ....but it makes sense the way it is up no need to change it ..(again)

KristenAnn

26th July 2012, 13:29

Hi Odah. Yes, people have different ways of sensing things. And, tho most people may not realize it, astral travel is not safe for everyone. Certain people are more vulnerable to negative entities waiting for the chance to enter them and cause what would look to others to be behavior disorders. That's probably what happened in the case of some behavior disorders.

I was strongly advised by my clairvoyant professor that I should NEVER do or try astral travel because of my sensitivity.

Odah

26th July 2012, 15:49

most of this stuff was restricted to use by or use with guidence by people who knew how to prepare for it and do it safely .. there was intent verse blind wandering ..and there was ritual and respect ..

If you traveled into the spirit plane you did it for good reason ..one of the problem with the astral plain arround earth is that it has been a dumping ground for many negative energies from events going back to atlantis ..and it is even worse depending on where you try and access the astral plane from ..on the planet ..because there are or have been pockets of dark or negative energies from war time events with displaced spirits or imprinted spirits ...

but a lot of that is getting cleaned up with the transition we are going through a lot of the very negative power point are getting moved and purged ..but that also means the positive one are shifting to..

The other thing that is happening that is really far out is the the non physical consiousnes ..that come through as abraham and others ..been able to umm..use the web ? so more and more we are interacting with the spirit plane and astral energies without realizing it ..and rather than you haveing to meditate to get answers with a problem you are have .. if you open to your intuition you can be guided to the information you need in a few minutes ..

in a few years there will be no need for astral travel in the old sense as we will se the next generaition of virtual reality that can plunge people mentally into virtual environment where they can more easily if unknowingly interact with non physical consiousnes ..

In general most people won't need to develope the extra gifts or even have them in order to interact with that which was restrcted to those with the gifts ..

Odah

26th July 2012, 15:59

look at the web as it is now.. it is now a depository for much of what is known by humanity..and a lot that humanity can imagein and it's available more and more to anyone with cheep tech to get access ..

power was based off access to information ..we are soon going to be where all information wort knowing will be available to everyone ..

The power elitie knew of astral travel used the secrets to bring in gold and other resouses from other plain.. to get information on what was happening in order to plan accordingly ..

lenardo divinci didn't just draw pictures of planes helocopter..tanks and submarines from his imagination .. he was able to project into the future or an alternate reality ..and see the details hen needed to see to understand and draw them ..

Odah

26th July 2012, 16:36

astral travel /lucid dreaming .. channeling ..phychic prediction.. what ever these things are.. are all way to obtain information ... there is no reason for evolution to give all humans the ability to do this stuff.. when little old human refuse to apply any of the vast ammounts of information out there right now ..to making their current lives better ..

we are no longer pools od built up unused knowledge ..forced todedicate our lives aquiring and storing inforamtion in our heads that may be usefull one day .. we now switch into roles where we synthisize information and apply it to our lives now ..

lightblue

26th July 2012, 16:36

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kristenann, to produce as much as poss of the purifying smoke you need one of these babies to put frankinsence granules on:

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the charcoal tablets have little air pockets inside to insure proper burning thanks to which you won't be left with a sticky residual ....they are cheap as chips..

frankensence is a tree resin...the best i've seen comes from oman and yemen....it looks like fine amber..in fact, i often wondered why is it they don't do frankensence necklaces like they do amber ones...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Etg6p2IuE

in either case frankensence also makes a fine essential oil, mixed with a little carrier oil, i apply on wrists, forhead and where heart is before going to sleep....brings on pleasent dreams.. :yes4: l

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lightblue

26th July 2012, 16:56

Odah

26th July 2012, 18:11

equally, there are many levels of the astral and some are packed full of disinfo agents and other unsavoury characters...:pirate: l

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which is only a problem if you are gullible and in a victim state ..

and the "unsavory " characters are usually the fun ones to be around ..

the first most crucial thing we need to hone is discernment and perspective..just because i believe a lot of far out things doesn't mean i believe everything .. it has to fit somewhere in my perpective /picture of how i think things work for me to even process it.. yet that it constantly evolving and changeing as new info get added ..

there are plenty of places in the picture where the information for that pice may be faulty and will get replaced when more useful information is plugged in ..which is why i am now able willing to use astral travel to some extent to surround myself with models oh how thing work in different ways .. but i do it for way to figure out how to make my physical experience more fun..

Many do it to escape Physical experience which leaves them open to the risks ..if i had the level of refinement coming to me now 5-10 years ago i would have opted to live in that other world as much as possible.. now .. i am reshaping my beliefs..and shaping the life i want ..

now if i was to bring someone else into one of my excursions .. hehe .. i would seem a very unsavory character ..but i have no desire to deal with people in the victim state ..

KristenAnn

26th July 2012, 21:13

Hi Lightblue! Thanks for the tips! How did you find out about these charcoal things? Have you burned it? And where do you get them?

Thanks!
Kristen

KristenAnn

26th July 2012, 21:57

Hi Odah. Interesting thoughts. I tend to believe that the lower entities on the astral plane (and there are Many) are not only dangerous for those who are in a vulnerable state. They can wreak havoc in many lives who come into contact with them, regardless of one's personal strength or lack of vulnerablility. Just my personal sense of it.

Lightblue, back to that charcoal topic -- doesn't charcoal emit something that wouldn't be too good to have in an enclosed (inside) space? And if you did put the frankincense on it, wouldn't it take more than one small flame to get it hot enough to ignite or heat the incense through the charcoal? What type of burner would you use?

Thanks,
K

lightblue

26th July 2012, 22:12

you could get them online ..here's one of the (uk) sites selling it in packets of 10.. http://www.holisticshop.co.uk/products/charcoal-tablets but i am sure you'll find them elsewhere ..

i burned frankinsence using both essential oil burner and charcoal pods..charcoal burner produces a more intense scent which lingers for days......what you do first is get the pod burning and wait until it's almost burned out, turned to grey, smothered.., you will notice it will start to produce crackling sounds as you set it alight... this is normal - you'll be hearing little pockets of air bursting free from inside the pod.....when the pod is ready, you sprinkle your frankinsence on top..i get the one which is about 3-5 mm in diameter per granule so i only use about 5-10 granules per pod..it's more than sufficient to fumigate and scentify a 2 bedroom apartment..if you want a more intense scent, you put more of course..

p.s. as a student, i worked in monasteries helping teams with fresco restoration... i watched the monks do it.. which is where i learned about frankinsence burning.. :happy: l

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Lightblue, back to that charcoal topic -- doesn't charcoal emit something that wouldn't be too good to have in an enclosed (inside) space? And if you did put the frankincense on it, wouldn't it take more than one small flame to get it hot enough to ignite or heat the incense through the charcoal? What type of burner would you use?

charcoal is charcoal...as it burns it produces carbon monoxide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide ..which is not great to inhale, so it is good to have a window opened or to do it outdoors (porch, balcony)...but it won't harm you more than driving or walking a busy high street..and anyway you only sprinkle frankinsence once the pod is close to smothered - at that stage it won't be producing any more carbon monoxide, it will be frankinsence fumes..

i do have a nice ornate burner, but i don't bother...i just place a pod on a 10x10 cm marble tile...ceramic/teracotta tiles are good too...as it burns the pod does not flame up... tiny pockets of air inside each and every tablet take care of that...the pods just crackle and fume....they don't flame up like charcoal used for BBQ...

BTW the word perfume is derived from per fumum (lat: through smoke) ..the ancients termed it so from their practice of burning aromatic plants and resins for ceremonial purposes..

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hope this helps...

KristenAnn

27th July 2012, 01:04

This is Great information! THank you SO much! :yes4: Ok -- so let me make sure I fully understand this. So, to light a little charcoal tablet, all it takes is a match? So I light like a side of it and the rest burns til it eventually goes out? And THEN I put a few grains of the Frankincense on, right? THANKS!

ONE MORE THING! So can I reuse those charcoal things? I mean, are they each only good for one time or are they reusable? And if so, how do you know when you need to stop reusing them?

Tonite what I did was -- well, first I gave what I had ground yesterday to a friend who happened to ask me what to do for protection against unwanted energy. We went to a store that sells stones etc. today, and I bought a blue celestite stone (As if I needed Another one! It's one of my many favorites.). On the way home, she "happened" to ask me this. Synchronicity! So anyway, then I ground some more of the pebbles -- grinding them extra fine, thinking it may burn & give its scent better. And I thought for now if I put the flame closer to the upper metal dish of the Frankincense it might burn. So I turned a votive glass candle holder upside down as a tall pedestal, put it in my antique burner instead of the tiny oil lamp & put a tea lite candle on top of that over-turned votive holder. It kinda works. If I get close to the burner the smell is WOnderful. Can't wait to get some of the charcoal tho! THanks! Do you live in the UK?

So interesting that you had worked in monasteries! When I read that I got the strong feeling that this happened because previously you had lived as a monk in a monastery. Have you ever sensed this? So, have you studied art? Did you ever feel or remember being an artist in previous lives? I had flashbacks when I traveled to Italy in college. Just wondered.

Thank you again! :)
Love your avatar. So cute!

you could get them online ..here's one of the (uk) sites selling it in packets of 10.. http://www.holisticshop.co.uk/products/charcoal-tablets but i am sure you'll find them elsewhere ..

i burned frankinsence using both essential oil burner and charcoal pods..charcoal burner produces a more intense scent which lingers for days......what you do first is get the pod burning and wait until it's almost burned out, turned to grey, smothered.., you will notice it will start to produce crackling sounds as you set it alight... this is normal - you'll be hearing little pockets of air bursting free from inside the pod.....when the pod is ready, you sprinkle your frankinsence on top..i get the one which is about 3-5 mm in diameter per granule so i only use about 5-10 granules per pod..it's more than sufficient to fumigate and scentify a 2 bedroom apartment..if you want a more intense scent, you put more of course..

p.s. as a student, i worked in monasteries helping teams with fresco restoration... i watched the monks do it.. which is where i learned about frankinsence burning.. :happy: l

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lightblue

27th July 2012, 11:13

KristenAnn

27th July 2012, 14:30

Hi Lightblue! Thanks again so much! :yes4: I did a search on the charcoals lastnite. I actually found a Japanese-made bamboo charcoal with no sulphur or chemicals. It's $7.95 per dozen tho. Kind of expensive. But I guess if, like you suggested, I don't burn them everyday it would be worth it. Here's the link: http://www.incensewarehouse.com/Tadon-Charcoal_p_311.html

Have a great day!
Kristen

KristenAnn

27th July 2012, 15:09

lightblue

11th August 2012, 16:32

HEY! Found a MUCH better source for Bamboo charcoal! It's in small "brickettes", also used for incense, but MUCH less expensive! Scroll down to see the small rectangles for $8.95 or around there for 48! http://www.essenceoftheages.com/acces/coal1.html

i get mine from orthodox churches when in passing....they'd normally have counters near entrances where you can get candles, books etc, and they sell foil packed charcoal tablets too (10 or 12 per pack)... :smile: l

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KristenAnn

11th August 2012, 18:16

Oh great! I've been wondering about that very thing of which churches might carry this. Makes sense that orthodox churches would! I've gotten the Japanese ones I ordered. It's very difficult lighting these little brickettes. Maybe they're more difficult than the others that most people use. And for some reason, the smell doesn't linger, no matter how many little pebbles of Frankincense I use! It's very surprising, and I wonder if it's a trait of this kind of charcoal -- that it sort of absorbs the scent more than the others . . . I'll get some other charcoal from an orthodox church to try.

Thanks again! Have a nice day!
Kristen

i get mine from orthodox churches when in passing....they'd normally have counters near entrances where you can get candles, books etc, and they sell foil packed charcoal tablets too (10 or 12 per pack)... :smile: l

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lightblue

11th August 2012, 18:26

Oh great! I've been wondering about that very thing of which churches might carry this. Makes sense that orthodox churches would! I've gotten the Japanese ones I ordered. It's very difficult lighting these little brickettes. Maybe they're more difficult than the others that most people use. And for some reason, the smell doesn't linger, no matter how many little pebbles of Frankincense I use! It's very surprising, and I wonder if it's a trait of this kind of charcoal -- that it sort of absorbs the scent more than the others . . . I'll get some other charcoal from an orthodox church to try.

Thanks again! Have a nice day!
Kristen

hi kristenann

i think it's more to do with frankinsence grade than your charcoal pods..i'll pm you.. l

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lightblue

12th August 2012, 17:02

"From the viewpoint of esoteric work, truth and objectivity should be one's principal goal. It's interesting how the popular New Age teachings these days promote subjectivity, to just focus on the self and shut out the "outside", to ignore the "bad", and keep manifesting reality according to one's subjective desires and wishes. Is this really what spirituality and conscious evolution is all about?

Maybe the popular New Age teachings and CYOR (Create Your Own Reality) concepts are corrupt in many ways (universal truths packaged with lies), painting a false picture of what spiritual evolution truly means, making us believe we are already "god" on our level to keep us in our self-inflicted prison? "---------

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/247383-UFOs-Aliens-and-the-Question-of-Contact

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGmec-bvoLU

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alienHunter

12th August 2012, 17:20

Hi LB,

Science is teaching us that objectivity is an illusion...and CYOR is more akin to RR...recognize reality. To create one's own reality is just a nice perk or a wretched curse depending on one's 'objective' view.

"From the viewpoint of esoteric work, truth and objectivity should be one's principal goal. It's interesting how the popular New Age teachings these days promote subjectivity, to just focus on the self and shut out the "outside", to ignore the "bad", and keep manifesting reality according to one's subjective desires and wishes. Is this really what spirituality and conscious evolution is all about?

Maybe the popular New Age teachings and CYOR (Create Your Own Reality) concepts are corrupt in many ways (universal truths packaged with lies), painting a false picture of what spiritual evolution truly means, making us believe we are already "god" on our level to keep us in our self-inflicted prison? "---------

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/247383-UFOs-Aliens-and-the-Question-of-Contact

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGmec-bvoLU

:crazy_pilot: l

lightblue

21st August 2012, 23:23

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podcast:. http://ia700700.us.archive.org/7/items/AlexGreyAndTheMindParasites_321/alexgreyandmindparasites.mp3

"Alex was in a loft in Boston where a colleague of Timothy Leary had given a group of 15-20 people, most of them quite inexperienced, LSD. Alex took a double dose. The social environment of Alex’s trip was extremely chaotic—-some people were laughing uncontrollably, some were vomiting, some were groping other people, and there was no one who was managing the chaos. Alex began to have an out-of-body experience, and found himself hovering above the weirdness of what was going on in the loft. On some different plane he saw deities drinking from a pool of “electric milk” a “vast lake of timpani,” of “vibrating energy.” Alex described the vision as follows:

“I had a vision of the group soul of humanity as a perfectly circular pool of intense living light. All around the rim of the milky pool were a complex variety of sexual rites, a metaphor for all social interaction. Translucent Hindu deities swooped over the group taking the excessive energy of the shimmering pool and passing through the group as ecstasy and pain. I saw that the reason we were all brought together was to provide a psychic energy feast for the Gods and Goddesses. I saw my heart as the axis of karmic, earthly, and universal energies, transected by and uniting the polarities of male/female, birth/death, good/evil, and love/hate. To maintain a balance of forces we all fed both Deities and Demons.”

A Vision of the Top of the Food Chain

The demons and deities were feeding from a pool of “vibratory energetic milk” created from human activities of all kinds, though Alex used sexual coupling to represent human activities in general. I suggested that the couplings were visual shorthand of human energetic transactions of all kinds and Alex responded enthusiastically to that description. Apparently, the deities were drinking from a vibratory pool of the energetic metabolism of the species so that through the pool they were drawing energy from the entire species.

A reductive way of describing Alex’s vision is to say that it represents the very top of the food chain. The painting, however, is much more than that; it is a revelation of the human form transcending the food chain. Transcendence does not mean removing or floating above something. What you transcend is still present, and the transcendent state includes that which is transcended while new vistas of awareness are added. Alex’s paintings are “forbidden seeing” —-revelations of what is hidden but that the species desperately needs to see. Conventionally we see ourselves as the top of the food chain, but Demons and Deities… reveals this as a delusion convenient to those who harvest our energy. Another realization about this painting is that it is a classic illustration of the alchemical principle of “as above, so below.” We see the same range, if more polarized, of darkness and light amongst the deities at the cardinal points of the mandala as we do in the human couplings that form the perimeter. And there was also a similar dark/light range in the chaotic loft where some people were acting out dark compulsions while Alex was receiving this transcendent vision.

Sexual Chi as Food Source

Alex’s artistic decision to represent all human activities by a range of sexual couplings was no random choice. Sexual chi is a potent energetic food that can be harvested by human parasites and predators and possibly other types of parasites and predators. Orgasms can be viewed as energetic flowers blossoming in the collective human energy field. The couplings are arranged in a kind of circular spectrum from loving couplings to atavistic, sadistic-looking couplings. Benevolent entities appear to be feeding off the energy of the loving couplings and demonic entities, one of which looks like a devouring vagina, are feeding off of the degraded (sex as a metaphor for power) couplings. Orgasms, which are energetic eruptions into, and interpenetrations with, the collective human field, vary from the ecstatic unions of loving soulmates to the sadistic ejaculations of rapists. The couplings that Alex depicts in this image can be viewed as a circular spectrum of these possibilities oriented to the cardinal points of a mandala where there are also associated deities.

A Carnival of Lost Souls

The background of Alex’s vision is also interesting and instructive. He was in a chaotic boundary-dissolving experience with a group of people who were predominantly strangers. Socially dense environments of strangers and substances mixing together are likely to default to lowest-common-denominator factors of social parasitism/sexual predation/chaotic acting out of fragmented personalities—what I sometimes call a carnival of lost souls. Everything depends on who are the particular people in a group that is having a boundary-dissolving experience or ritual. Na?ve people frequently forget this. Such people think the ritual is what matters and take all comers, but this can be a disaster! Generally, I think it unwise to have boundary- dissolving experiences (such as sex and/or hallucinogenic trips) with people you don’t know and wouldn’t trust with your life, because you are trusting your life with them. There are, of course, exceptions to everything and a visionary as great as Alex Grey was able to rise above the experience and receive a powerful vision about human energy and the entities that harvest it. (Though I have a feeling he wouldn’t choose to be in another such chaotic situation.) Otherwise, I caution people about doing things such as going to a rave with a sketchy vibe redolent of prowling sexual agendas (in other words, almost any rave) and opening themselves to the toxic energy by taking a boundary-dissolving substance. Unless you want to internalize a carnival of lost souls it is probably unwise to blow yourself wide open in an setting of trance-inducing music/lighting and stoned people, many of them on the prowl for parasitic sexual encounters.

An Ancient Gnostic Text on Parasitic Abduction

The power of this image is that it shows those who harvest our energy, and yet at the center of the image is the human empowerment that occurs as we awaken to the food chain. The ancient Gnostics had similar visions and called the harvesting deities the “Archons” (see: A Gnostic View of Mind Parasites). Also, notice how closely the scenario described below parallels a modern alien abduction experience.

(The following ancient Gnostic text is excerpted from the superb metahistory.org website. Here’s the link to the full article http://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/GnosticCatechism.php

A Gnostic Catechism

Encounters with Aliens in a Mystery School Text

Here and there the Coptic Gnostic materials contain passages that describe encounters with the ET-like beings, sometimes with explicit advice about how to handle these entities. What beliefs are implied in such testimony? And what are we to believe about such testimony? I will attempt to address both these questions in this brief topical essay.

Occult Instruction

For a first-hand look at the testimony, let's consider a passage from The First Apocalypse of James (NHC V, 3), a revelation dialogue in which an unnamed teacher (the "Lord" or "Master") confers secret knowledge upon a Gnostic named James:

The Master said: James, behold, I shall reveal to you the path of your redemption. Whenever you are siezed and you undergo death-pangs (mortal fear), a multitude of Archons may turn on you, thinking they can capture you. And in particular, three of them will sieze you, those who pose as toll collectors. Not only do they demand toll, but they take away souls by theft.

Now, when you come under their power, one of them who is the overseer will say to you: "Who are you, and where are you from?"

You are then to say to him, "I am a child of humanity and I am from the Source."

He will then say to you, "What sort of child are you, and to what Source do you belong?"

You are to say to him, "I am from the pre-existent Source, and I am the offspring of the Source."

Then he will say to you, "Why were you sent out from the Source?"

Then you are to say to him, "I came from the Pre-existent One so that I might behold those of my kind and those who are alien."

And he will say to you, "What are these alien beings?"

You are to say to him: "They are not entirely alien, for they are from the Fallen Sophia (Achamoth), the female divinity who produced them when she brought the human race down from the Source, the realm of the Pre-Existent One. So they are not entirely alien, but they are our kin. They are indeed so because she who is their matrix, Sophia Achamoth, is from the Source. At the same time they are alien because Sophia did not combine with her like in the Source (her divine male counterpart), when she produced them."

When he also says to you, "Where will you go now?"

You are to say to him, "To the place when I came, the Source, there shall I return." And if you respond in this manner, you will escape their attacks. .

http://www.zaporacle.com/alex-grey-and-mind-parasites/

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KristenAnn

22nd August 2012, 19:35

Very interesting Lightblue. Alienhunter! And anyone else! I watched the video, but it STOPPED at 28 minutes! I couldn't get it to continue! I moved the cursor forward a little, and pressed stop and play -- then the seconds & minutes would continue, but the video itself was frozen. It was the part that started talking about abductions -- and it made me wonder if there are parts of this that I am not "supposed" to see or hear!

Did anyone else have trouble viewing this video? Were you able to see the entire thing?! Very strange . . .

Oh wait! I just went back & skipped forward to 28 minutes, and now it's playing.

magamud

22nd August 2012, 20:57

There is an antibody to this seeming ominous intelligence of evil. It is seeing the world as it is. Think on how God and man meet, how consciousness grows.
It resembles a garden.

KristenAnn

22nd August 2012, 20:59

Very interesting. The video kicks in to a further one and is running another hour beyond the hour and 50 minutes on the first one. The thoughts it brings to mind is -- what I would label "dark forces", they are calling "aliens" -- saying that some aliens are sinister and using humans selfishly. I would say that possibly it's not "aliens" we're speaking of, but "dark forces".

Then again maybe there's not that big of a difference between the two. It certainly makes you think of the multidimensionality of life . . . There are so many dimensions of beings . . . and our levels of comprehension are so limited . . . I'd love to fully understand it all.

And I wonder if all the fear, concern and energy put into wondering & being preoccupied with negative entities or aliens is pulling us away from real evolutionary growth in understanding it all . . . Could these preoccupations with that issue be a trap of someone's agenda -- that many people are falling into . . . ?

magamud

22nd August 2012, 21:07

Yes KA there is an endless imagination of possibilities. Well there is an infinite one. So maybe the Dualist have it right to make everything empty and spaceless?

Or since its so complex lets have ET's lead us?

No dear madam, the justice of the universe lies in our own mortality and faith of the Father and his Son.

flower

22nd August 2012, 21:57

*wink wink *

lightblue

22nd August 2012, 22:31

KristenAnn

23rd August 2012, 00:05

Hi Lightblue. Well, yes, "dark" could mean invisible or simply not seen. I was using the word to mean "evil" tho. Evil forces. What I meant was, it could be a very difficult and complex issue -- would these beings fall under the category of "aliens", i.e. extraterrestrials who've come from another planet or maybe even another galaxy? Or would they be inter-dimensional? Coming from another dimension or another time, which is another dimension? OR would they simply be evil beings/forces?

And how would we specifically be able to delineate the difference between these types of beings?

just consider one simple possibility: that humans may not be on top of he food chain...

the energy you describe as "dark" may be dark because it's normally invisible.. l

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lightblue

2nd September 2012, 21:44

And how would we specifically be able to delineate the difference between these types of beings?

tough to delineate, but imo it's good not to trust our gut feeling outright....there are so many things we simply don't have an experience of...test , test, double check, don't let the ego gain prominence while trying t make sense of it all...we are SO prone to deception....the tricksters are true masters and no alien to spirituality....

eva lorgen on how to detect, deflect, and recover from emotional vampires.

in the 2nd hour, she covers MILABS, spirituality, the overview of abductions, species of ETs, genetic experiments, and insights into recovery and healing from trauma-based events.

http://evelorgen.com/wp/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rezMdrNMAU0#!

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KristenAnn

3rd September 2012, 01:35

Oh! Thanks Lightblue. Sounds very interesting! I'll watch it tomorrow.

ka

alienHunter

3rd September 2012, 15:04

Maybe off topic:
"Jesus Answered, 'Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God'" (John 3:5)

According to Wilber, Christian theology expresses a belief that all creation is from the conjugation of the masculine Spirit and the feminine water:
"In the beginning the Spirit conceived, the waters gave birth, and the world which was born from their conjugation was the first material image of the Word, of God the Son, the Logos who was the ideal pattern after which the creation was molded"

In other words, "Logos" is the image in which we were created. Logos is word-and-thought and represents a division of Godness into the pieces that are us. Wilber goes on to cite examples where this pattern is re-enacted biblically and in most theological sources.

Examples: A division of light from the darkness, a division of day from the night, a division of waters from waters, the division of Cain and Abel.

I think i've been vampired...

tough to delineate, but imo it's good not to trust our gut feeling outright....there are so many things we simply don't have an experience of...test , test, double check, don't let the ego gain prominence while trying t make sense of it all...we are SO prone to deception....the tricksters are true masters and no alien to spirituality....

eva lorgen on how to detect, deflect, and recover from emotional vampires.

in the 2nd hour, she covers MILABS, spirituality, the overview of abductions, species of ETs, genetic experiments, and insights into recovery and healing from trauma-based events.

http://evelorgen.com/wp/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rezMdrNMAU0#!

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lightblue

3rd September 2012, 19:16

Maybe off topic:
"Jesus Answered, 'Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God'" (John 3:5)

According to Wilber, Christian theology expresses a belief that all creation is from the conjugation of the masculine Spirit and the feminine water:
"In the beginning the Spirit conceived, the waters gave birth, and the world which was born from their conjugation was the first material image of the Word, of God the Son, the Logos who was the ideal pattern after which the creation was molded"

In other words, "Logos" is the image in which we were created. Logos is word-and-thought and represents a division of Godness into the pieces that are us. Wilber goes on to cite examples where this pattern is re-enacted biblically and in most theological sources.

Examples: A division of light from the darkness, a division of day from the night, a division of waters from waters, the division of Cain and Abel.

I think i've been vampired...

i am not satisfied with antiquity as measure for integrity...fraud may have been rampant in ancient times just the same...there is no way of telling the translations aren't simply suitable interpretations....i.e. disinfo..

i am not buying it..not happy with the"single entity enterprise"/god as spoken of in biblical texts...

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alienHunter

3rd September 2012, 19:47

lightblue

3rd September 2012, 20:19

Hi LB,

no need to...Choose your God sense and apply it to the definition and you'll see that perhaps that part is irrelevant. Personally, I'm no judge but the concept does seem to resolve some 'differences of opinion' And really that's all we can do, resolve differences and live happily ever after.

it escapes definitions..the concept of god does..how can you discuss that which is 'neither, nor'..

if the supposition of our widespread dogmas that there's life after death and that we re-join with god is close to correct, then, what are the typical greys/et drones doing in this presentaltion? creepier still, what are the pictures of what is seemingly a human/grey hybrid doing here? :pirate: the contacted spirits aren't clear on that at all... i don't want to know it first hand though...:no:

it's at about minute 47th and onwards....just what on earth is going on over there? unless this is all but elaborate tricks..l

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb8i4HGtCn4

won't someone please explain the difference between soul and spirit...thanks... l

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KristenAnn

3rd September 2012, 21:01

As I understand it Lightblue the soul is more the person and personality as it evolves thru lifetimes. The spirit is much larger and includes your higher self -- your total being. Whereas when the soul incarnates, and even after he or she has left this physical dimension, they're not usually connected with all of their totality until they ascend into the oneness state.

That's just my understanding of it.
ka

alienHunter

3rd September 2012, 21:32

seems like a pretty good analogy...spirit is real...soul is a self-protecting reflection of spirit which might be viewed as a limiting perspective. I'm thinking an appropriate analogy might be good versus evil...good is the true nature while evil is merely a limited reflection of the real. A bastardization if you will.

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won't someone please explain the difference between soul and spirit...thanks... l

As I understand it Lightblue the soul is more the person and personality as it evolves thru lifetimes. The spirit is much larger and includes your higher self -- your total being. Whereas when the soul incarnates, and even after he or she has left this physical dimension, they're not usually connected with all of their totality until they ascend into the oneness state.

That's just my understanding of it.
ka

lightblue

3rd September 2012, 22:03

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won't someone please explain the difference between soul and spirit...thanks... l

KA As I understand it Lightblue the soul is more the person and personality as it evolves thru lifetimes. The spirit is much larger and includes your higher self -- your total being. Whereas when the soul incarnates, and even after he or she has left this physical dimension, they're not usually connected with all of their totality until they ascend into the oneness state.

That's just my understanding of it.
ka

in other words: soul connects to body while spirit via soul and body connects to source/god? and what is etherial body? the means by which we travel out of the body ? if people from the above video are there in spirit, how come they can't leave, go elesewhere? like back to source?

alienhunter: seems like a pretty good analogy...spirit is real...soul is a self-protecting reflection of spirit which might be viewed as a limiting perspective. I'm thinking an appropriate analogy might be good versus evil...good is the true nature while evil is merely a limited reflection of the real. A bastardization if you will.

thanks, but i can't accept that...where do you place EGO then? what's ego part of - soul or spirit?

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Odah

3rd September 2012, 22:34

unless you catch cholora from drinking water somone else pooped in that hasn't been cleaned .. the bacteria in the water that eat poop ..have very little to do with the fact you poop ..and serve the system as a whole as long as the water doesn't get over loaded with poop ..

so being afraid of the "negative" entities that are consuming the bad vibes of humanity instead of just letting them build up and flow through the universe..now the entities like "god" or the man made view of God which demand warship and suffering and fear ..(which is noit the god jesus taught about ) ..are to be viewed with caution... oh wait i mean the man made organization witch promote this false view of god ..

Spirit Is The real god it is the force that everything is created from your soul is a small piece of spirit that is never actually separate from the whole of everything .. and you are an expression of your soul but your soul is still part of spirit and the angles and guides that you have are aspects of your soul that serve you (again something religions turned upside down ) and then there is you with the core scar of original sin which is the regret or the false feeling of separation from spirit ..from which come most of the manipulation and suffering you go through in life .

now there are many spirit out there who want to have what you do and would gladly step in and take over if you let them ..Greys/ et's hybrids ..for greys and human to hybridize .. they have to be very very close genetically .. and at one point maybe have been the same species ..if greys where once humans their behavior is a little easier to understand.

there is no evil in darkness until human consciousness is applied ..until manipulated darkness is just absence of light .. when a human creator adds creative energy to the darkness .. it can imprint evil on that energy.

human being are made up of 10 time more virus and bacterial cells than human cells ..a few only get bad when humans create imbalance or inappropriate condition .. such as constantly killing the bacteria on their hand letting the strongest get stronger and reproduce .. until these are dangerous to the person.

alienHunter

3rd September 2012, 22:58

soul is part of the ego...it seems weird but our physical senses provide a truer measure of 'what is' than the ego...think about it...ego is our imagination quantifying an already nonexistent past...whereby our physical senses provide what is here and now...you can only imagine the past or future you can't experience it directly as in a smell, taste, feel. Wilber would suggest that there is no difference between spirit and soul beyond what we create...i.e. self-imposed limitation, (not to be confused with 'discovery' of any difference)

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in other words: soul connects to body while spirit via soul and body connects to source/god? and what is etherial body? the means by which we travel out of the body ? if people from the above video are there in spirit, how come they can't leave, go elesewhere? like back to source?

thanks, but i can't accept that...where do you place EGO then? what's ego part of - soul or spirit?

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lightblue

14th September 2012, 20:12

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re my post above ( #43 ) - i found this article i totally agree with....just what do you think greys are doing on the "scole" recordings - offering tea and bisquites? i think not :pirate: l

4505

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.co.uk/2005/12/down-scole-hole.html

rigorous intuition required indeed..

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alienHunter

14th September 2012, 22:56

jeff wells is a familiar name not only because i grew up with a jeff wells...that guy worries too much...if he isn't careful the boogeyman's gonna get him...

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re my post above ( #43 ) - i found this article i totally agree with....just what do you think greys are doing on the "scole" recordings - offering tea and bisquites? i think not :pirate: l

4505

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.co.uk/2005/12/down-scole-hole.html

rigorous intuition required indeed..

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KristenAnn

15th September 2012, 00:31

Hi Lightblue. These are definitely confusing and involved issues. I'm going from what we had studied in Anthroposophy classes -- in speaking of the different levels that constitute a human being (ie. etheric, astral etc.). Different groups use lightly different terms & placement. Here it is from the clairvoyant-Anthroposophy point of view.

There are 7 "bodies" that constitute human beings. In the center is the ego/soul/personality. I'll start from the lowest dimension. The ego or soul body is in the center, with the 3 "lower bodies" first and then 3 levels of spirit bodies above.

7. Life spirit
6. spirit human
5. spirit self
4. ego
3. astral body (emotions, relates to the animal kingdom)
2. etheric body (life energy, relates to the plant kingdom)
1. physical body (relates to the mineral kingdom)

The etheric energy & thus the etheric body are like the life force. When we "travel" obe we're traveling in our astral body. It's a whole science of studying the different levels that make up a human being. The ego is our personality and individuality. It is connected with our soul. Our spirit selves go beyond the ego. It's our Higher Self (highest self). It's the all-wise part of our being that we connect with ultimately when we fully ascend or awaken our potentials and thus fully evolve.

The 3 spirit levels each have a different name. I think I wrote their correct names. I'd have to find and consult my notes. But this gives you maybe a better understanding.

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in other words: soul connects to body while spirit via soul and body connects to source/god? and what is etherial body? the means by which we travel out of the body ? if people from the above video are there in spirit, how come they can't leave, go elesewhere? like back to source?

thanks, but i can't accept that...where do you place EGO then? what's ego part of - soul or spirit?

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lightblue

10th October 2012, 23:20

professor neil whitehead, a survivaer of black shamanism in guyana interviewed in 2008....he passed away in march this year after a bout of illness... http://www.news.wisc.edu/20484

http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/player/web/2012-03-26T15_29_45-07_00

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In this show we take a journey to the dark side – the dark side of shamanism – in our interview with Prof. Neil Whitehead, who was the victim of a Kanaima, or dark shaman attack in Guyana.

This show focuses on countering the New Age presentations of “shamanism” in western culture, and seeks to create balance, as well as educate about the dangers of dark shamanism – and the ignorance thereof.

Neil Whitehead is Professor of Anthropology at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. He graduated from Oxford University in 1984 with a Ph.D. in Anthropology.

His books include:

Hans Staden’s True History: An Account of Cannibal Captivity in Brazil ed. By Neil Whitehead and Michael Harbsmeier, June 2008. Order: http://astore.amazon.com/gnosmedi-20/detail/0822342316

Terror and Violence – Anthropological Approaches (ed with Andrew Strathern and Pamela Stewart, Pluto Press), 2005. Order: http://astore.amazon.com/gnosmedi-20/detail/0745323987

In Darkness and Secrecy. The Anthropology of Assault Sorcery and Witchcraft in Amazonia. (ed. with Robin Wright) Duke University Press, 2004. Order: http://astore.amazon.com/gnosmedi-20/detail/0822333457

Dark Shamans. Kanaima and the Poetics of Violent Death. Duke University Press, 2002. Order: http://astore.amazon.com/gnosmedi-20/detail/0822329883

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KristenAnn

13th October 2012, 19:45

Here's a very effective tool for protection! Wanted to pass this along! I recently went to a gem show and remembered a stone known for its POWERFUL protection. It's Black Tourmaline. It's highly sought after by certain healers for its protective powers. It's best to get one as a pendant so you can wear it. Really an excellent stone. :yes4:

lightblue

14th October 2012, 21:14

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being well grounded matters much... l

http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?12622-David-Wolfe-Grounding-Part-1-through-5&p=84258#post84258

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lightblue

28th October 2012, 22:17

parapsychology researcher jack rourke speaks about his own take on psychic perception...quite enlightening..

plus - dream expert david ruben on the demonic beings that live in the dark, and what we can do in self defence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EbhGn3H-x_s

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KristenAnn

29th October 2012, 02:35

Thanks Lightblue. I'll check these out tomorrow. ;-)

BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:03

everyone should have a round sphere shaped rutilized quartz - along with a black meterorite or black tourmaline
~another stone which is good, is blue - and, called larimar - it comes from the dominion republic - its vibration is approx 777
and, stops spirit invasion, esp. when you cure your drinking water on it

BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:06

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Rutilized Quartz

BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:16

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This is larimar aka pectolite from Dominion Republic

BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:20

and, every healer should work with a tektite wand - which is a form of black metorite - or, stone from the stars
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BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:22

or,this form of tektite is good for a pendant
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BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:26

here is an example of one that has been polished - and, is in the form of a vogel crystal with normally has 8 or 12 sides
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BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:28

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This is an example of the rutilized quartz, i work with

BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:30

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Another photograph of the same rutilized quartz sphere

BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:35

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This is an example of building a grid of protection, that also protected a journey over time

BeYonder

29th October 2012, 04:37

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A bigger view of the same grid

lightblue

29th October 2012, 20:45

nice collection beyonder...what do you do with the rutulized quarz and other black (star) stones? and what's the spread below? thanks l

4625
A bigger view of the same grid

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