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14th May 2011, 16:28
Hundreds of witchcraft abuse cases are going unreported across the country each year, it has been revealed.
Officials believe child protection officers are only tipped off in the most extreme cases when a child's life has been put in danger.
Just 38 cases have been reported in the last five years - and it is feared that they represent just the tip of the iceberg.
Hundreds of children may be left to starve, beaten and having chili rubbed into their eyes.
Youngsters born with physical and mental difficulties are most at risk from abuse.
Relatives often believe that the children are 'possessed' and the torture is carried out as a form of exorcism.
Extreme evangelical Christian churches - most prevalent in the Democratic Republic of Congo - have grown significantly in recent years and their influence is thought to have spread to groups in the UK.
14th May 2011, 16:38
14th May 2011, 16:42
I second that!
14th May 2011, 17:21
If you start reading the comments after the article, you'll be scratching your head .....some of them blame "witchcraft" for these actions, leading to defensive comments by "witches" denying these practices.............hello? These atrocities are the work of Bible-thumpin' Christians! How is that not clear in the article?
15th May 2011, 02:53
These children are who I am here to help. It pains me everyday to know this is happening. Children with "autism" and "ADD" being put on medication's that mute there consciousness and in worse cases the actions in the article. GAHH. Wake up people. These children are the very future you fear.
15th May 2011, 03:00
I am aghast that people would use the most vulnerable group to tack their shortcomings to. I had watched a documentary on this last year and nearly left tearless if it weren't for the hope of good people trying to help.
As Megan stated above, these children really are the future. Teach them well!
15th May 2011, 08:58
Most of them are not reported because the children are the offspring of the power elite.
15th May 2011, 10:33
I personnally have a story of verbal possessed abuse towards my daughter from a nany. It was a Saturday, i was sleeping with my daughter, and the nany was in the living room talking to my husband. We were in Turkey, the nany had been brought over from Canada (a Polish woman).
then my daughter gets up and goes to the living room. My husband went away to a neighbour. Suddenly I hear my daughter crying, choking from crying, in the kitchen. There were 3 bricks walls separating the kitchen from my room, very sound proofed, yet I heard my daughter. I got up rushing towards the crying, to find the nany shaking her and screaming to her "get the devil out of you, get the devil out of you". I grabed my daughter who was choking from crying too much, it took me one full hour to calm her down.
i had left my little one a few months with the nany in daytime to go to work. No needs to tell you how guilty I felt - later on, when she spoke more, my daughter (she is dysphasic, could not tell at 4 years old) told me she would have all day in front of tv at that time. After that event, I could not leave my daughter, I was bringing her with me at work. She was 4 years old. We came back 2 weeks later the 3 -nanny of us, nanny, me and daughter - husband stayed there to finish paperwork.
I had become a real bossy boss, she was the servant at that point, never taking my daughter again. In fact the nany was one of those I could have seen in a triller movie titled "THE NANNY"..... I had problems with her food, yes, you guessed. She also tried hard to put my husband against me, etc etc etc.
I was so tired when we came back that it took me two more weeks to fire her - while making this time my own food - I fired her with a witness, and the police, I was scared of her. I also waited that my husband goes to a planned business trip in China, to avoid arguments of any kind. When I e-mailed him that I had fired her, he wrote back that he was really relieved. I had found her previous employers and had met them prior to firing. She had managed to put their teenage daughter against them within 2 years, had stolen money making sure their carpenter was accused and had to refund, and done some embezledment. And I could say more on my side.
So I have seen this kind of abuse first hand.
15th May 2011, 18:12
There is something very important I want to point out here. Notice that these incidents often involve immigrants coming from very divergent (from "modern") cultures.
While in the extreme cases the behavior is simply cruel and psychopathic, there are other more broad influences. Sociologists like Susanne Cook-Grueter (http://www.iamplify.com/store/product_details/EnlightenNext/Susanne-Cook-Greuter---The-Higher-Altitudes-of-Human-Development/product_id/5163) have been pointing out that behavior is often a reflection of the cultural evolutionary stage someone is at. In other words, if people are burning witches, or if a group collective is allowing this to happen in their culture, it may be that that is where there level of consciousness is at.
Her work is echoed my other including Don Beck and Chris Cowan with Spiral Dynamics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics). Basically as everyone evolves, they are a reflection of every stage reflection of every stage they've experienced but have little ability to comprehend more progressive levels of development. Here is a chart illustrating each stage as described by different researchers coming to compatible conclusions:
In other words, many of these people come from tribal backgrounds with Shamanistic, Magical or Mythic-literal perspectives. They may be quite literally reacting to what they perceive as Demonic possession or taking advantage of a cultural perception of their peer group to act out their pathological behavior.
Note that this is not an indication of intelligence or even enlightened states of consciousness (note the trouble many Indian masters had when interacting with followers in the US. They often behaved in very male-centric, hierarchical ways) . Also, people operating from earlier stages perceive more advanced stages as crazy or morally corrupt. Witness Sayyid Qutb's take on America in the late 40's in The Power of Nightmares here at 2:30
Also it is not possible for people to skip steps. Don Beck and Chris Cowan in their book Spiral Dynamics insisted that when one culture is assisting another in their development, that they should not insist on imposing their own cultural model.
Most of the people on this forum, I would guess are in the second tier at least :)
15th May 2011, 18:53
Interesting. Bookmarked the page for further studies. Thanks 3optic.
16th May 2011, 05:55
Interesting. Bookmarked the page for further studies. Thanks 3optic.
You're welcome ?uestions. The guy who compiled everyone's work illustrated by the graph I posted is Ken Wilbur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Wilber). He's a bit of a nut but I found this material very helpful.
He draws a distinction between states and stages in human development. Stages are the longitudinal levels in the graph. States as in states of consciousness are considered latitudinal.
One can have a state experience such as a non-dual or enlightened awakening and still be in aearlier stage of development. For example a Catholic from the 15th Century residing in Mythic Membership. or Amber on the graph (blue in Spiral Dynamics) might experience this as a merging with Christ Consciousness. A more modern version of this state experience may be the story of Byron Katie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Katie#Biography).
16th May 2011, 05:58
I wish I could understand this chart more to get a sense of where I am and what I should work on. I feel I have my own reflection, but I am always worried I won't be hard enough on myself to get the best results! ^_^
17th May 2011, 21:07
Thanks 3optic for the chart, I have the book Spiral Dynamics (http://www.amazon.com/Spiral-Dynamics-Leadership-Developmental-Management/dp/1557869405), too, love that this chart includes various group dynamics theories!!!! copied it... good stuff!!!! :)
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