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AlkaMyst
17th May 2011, 19:54
AND YET AGAIN.........This is why I Home School my children!!!

I would put my foot up that teachers A** is she ever talked to one of my kids in such a derogatory manner........B**ch!!! :angry:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ8CiHFqhF8

AlkaMyst
17th May 2011, 20:13
How about this one??????????...............:shout:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVbNnPJxgvY&feature=related

simgaz
17th May 2011, 20:14
Sorry AlkaMyst, but without having first hand knowledge of the events, I can only say that watching the vid I got the impression that the young boy was probably a little sh*t and the stepfather cant wait to sue!

love and respect
gary

AlkaMyst
17th May 2011, 20:20
Sorry AlkaMyst, but without having first hand knowledge of the events, I can only say that watching the vid I got the impression that the young boy was probably a little sh*t and the stepfather cant wait to sue!

love and respect
gary

I can see that my friend, but that still doesn't justify it........to be a teacher you must have patient and love working with kids and if one can't do either of those than I think they should reconsider their careers!!!

Now think about it in another manner, if the teacher would not have lost her cool then a law suit wouldn't even be in the mist......Who's the adult here???

Like I tell my children, you must put yourself in other people's shoes and aalwys know that there is 2 sides to the story :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

ILikeVapor
17th May 2011, 20:20
Probably not the right time to laugh, but I had to chuckle a little. The teacher just sounds like she's been through 149 days of teaching hell and finally had a melt-down. Was it a little too much? Sure, but I can just imagine her saying, "alright, listen you little $h1t!!" Haha! Still not the right way to handle a child like that, but I bet this kid was a nightmare. It takes a ton of patience to be a teacher....far more than I have.

simgaz
17th May 2011, 20:35
I can see that my friend, but that still doesn't justify it........to be a teacher you must have patient and love working with kids and if one can't do either of those than I think they should reconsider their careers!!!

Now think about it in another manner, if the teacher would not have lost her cool then a law suit wouldn't even be in the mist......Who's the adult here???

Like I tell my children, you must put yourself in other people's shoes and aalwys know that there is 2 sides to the story :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Problem,............. as we have been all brought up in lies and deceit, are there any adults?
Or are we all still wandering around as children,if so, then all you have is a child shouting at another child who wont play by the set rules!

I do not justify it but some are not brought up, more dragged.

I feel for the child's upbringing and for the 'older' child, who was by teaching, trying to do some good, even though the classes where likely to be full of untruths.

love and respect
gary

AlkaMyst
17th May 2011, 20:39
Problem,............. as we have been all brought up in lies and deceit, are there any adults?
Or are we all still wandering around as children,if so, then all you have is a child shouting at another child who wont play by the set rules!

I do not justify it but some are not brought up, more dragged.

I feel for the child's upbringing and for the 'older' child, who was by teaching, trying to do some good, even though the classes where likely to be full of untruths.

love and respect
gary

NICE.....Thank you simgaz, never thought about it that way!!!

Brings on a new perspective.

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

?uestions
17th May 2011, 20:40
Sorry AlkaMyst, but without having first hand knowledge of the events, I can only say that watching the vid I got the impression that the young boy was probably a little sh*t and the stepfather cant wait to sue!

love and respect
gary


Kids have bad days. I'm not making excuses for the kid. But what kind of adult says it's okay to speak like that to other children's kids? Especially a person who is getting paid to teach and be PATIENT. She's not paid to belittle kids. She's paid to teach. If she can't handle it, she should quit. And to call him out in front of the kids and do that. I hope no one does that to you, or your kids. Seriously, if my kids out of line I take care it. Snappy.

Like Alkamyst, I would go Krav on that teacher's ass. And if it was a girl, I have ladies for that. Sick. PAID LEAVE?

It's not always about Money Simgaz, with all due respect. It's not always about money.

goldenyears
17th May 2011, 21:07
This why I have a problem with public schools and part of the reason why Im homeschooling my 16yr old. It's not a learning environment.....it's all about conformity. I was quite distressed a couple of times at what certain school admins. had said to my daughter and other kids. After 9yrs of their crap I pulled my daughter out. By the way, this is a kid with a 3.9GPA, who never got in trouble and was well liked by all her teachers.

I could see by the video too, that the five yr old looked like he could be a little ❤❤❤❤...but he didnt deserve to be degraded and humiliated like that in front of his classmates!! Not all kids can conform to one way of learning. He looks like he's more of a hands on kid....not the kind to be sitting at a desk for hours on end having info crammed down his throat.

simgaz
17th May 2011, 21:27
?uestions,
As a main stream view I would agree....but as far as I know we here, at Nexus, try to delve a bit deeper than a first felt emotion. Although our children are possibly the most emotional that we could get!


Kids have bad days. I'm not making excuses for the kid.All have bad days, sadly, and I hope for all that the good vastly out weigh the bad.


But what kind of adult says it's okay to speak like that to other children's kids?The adult? who gives and surrenders responsibility of their child's education to another, who they do not know.


Especially a person who is getting paid to teach and be PATIENT.In this place, we must all earn a living. Very strange turn of phrase that is. So a police officer who is paid and on the oath they took to protect and serve you, should never be un-patient or un-just?
pa?tient (phttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifshhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifnt)adj.1. Bearing or enduring pain, difficulty, provocation, or annoyance with calmness.

The above is a very hard thing to do, day in day out!



She's not paid to belittle kids. She's paid to teach.Actually, she's paid to tell lies, half truths and program. I'm also sure that her life would be far better if she change her job and didn't need to put up with other peoples nightmarish offspring!


If she can't handle it, she should quit.If she won the lottery, I'm sure that she would! Or maybe she would continue to teach, but only to children who wished to learn!


And to call him out in front of the kids and do that.Maybe the rest of the kids hate and despise him because his a bully? I don't know the truth, the same as you do not!


Seriously, if my kids out of line I take care it. Snappy.This is your choice, the same as its your children's choice to love or loathe you for it.


Like Alkamyst, I would go Krav on that teacher's ass. And if it was a girl, I have ladies for that. Sick. PAID LEAVE? Violence only begets the same, its a mirror.


It's not always about Money Simgaz, with all due respect. It's not always about money. For me its never about money, but for about 85% of the western world, it is!

love and respect always
gary

AlkaMyst
17th May 2011, 21:49
I would put my foot up that teachers A** is she ever talked to one of my kids in such a derogatory manner........B**ch!!!

Ohhh, but I meant that in the best way possible.....just a figure of speech ;)

I have more knowledge and wisdom on my left pinky than that teacher will ever gain in 5 life times (not trying to be cocky at all, but I amaze myself sometimes :lol:) to even stoop to the level of a mind control, government owned puppet.......I agree violence only brings more violence and words can defuse any situation no matter how hopeless it seems! :)

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

?uestions
17th May 2011, 22:01
It's amazing how you made such a great case with such little information! Bravo! :blink:

Yes the love and respect thing is nice, but last time I tried that, when someone wanted my wallet it didn't work out quite like you portray it. Maybe at Disneyland, but for some reason the person wasn't hearing the "love and respect" thing. He just wanted to eat. Maybe using the Krav thing was a bit overboard, I can admit that, but I'm also realistic enough to know that some hippy crap just doesn't work in real world situations. Sorry. It's been my experience.

And you seem to know much about children's line of thinking? Are you a child? Do you have a child? Are you a child psychologist? Or something else?

"but as far as I know we here, at Nexus, try to delve a bit deeper than a first felt emotion" Do you speak for all of nexus or you? You statement makes me wonder.

Still trying to make sense of your post because you neither make a point or negate. You just make statements that really don't go anywhere but try to make light of my statements. If you don't agree. No worries. The point in my post was to say that it's not always about money; and that give the kids a break. Let them BE KIDS. Adults are in such a rush to make their children adults, then we act surprised when they do adult things at a young age. That's why pencils have erasers. Cause kids make mistakes.

AlkaMyst
17th May 2011, 22:23
Let them BE KIDS. Adults are in such a rush to make their children adults, then we act surprised when they do adult things at a young age. That's why pencils have erasers. Cause kids make mistakes.

BRAVO...VERY WELL SAID!!!

And I do agree, in the world we live in if someone needs an A** Whooping because the are trying to do harm to you or yours and there's no way out then it must be served!!!

goldenyears
17th May 2011, 22:24
Okay, I come from a background where my father was a teacher...and my siblings are teachers. I grew up at a boy's private boarding school for rich dyslexic kids, at which my father was a teacher for 20yrs. This was during the fifties thru the seventies. I watched my father putting students up against the wall by the shirt-collar, many times. He earned the name of "wall-job Eddie". Unfortunately, he used the same techniques on me when I was young and a very sensitive girl.
I dont know if it had any lasting affects on all of his students, as some of them honored him 30yrs later at a alumni reunion, and spoke highly of my father, but it had horrible lasting effects on me! My father kind of had the "spare the rod, spoil the child" type of mentality. He's passed on now,and I forgave him as he was a product of his childhood.

My brother and sisters are teachers, and they may complain about certain students, and students parents, but they NEVER have lost their temper to the point where they would physically hit a student, or demean them in any way!



Oh hell....Im having lots of problems with my computer....I want to write more....had more points to make!!!!1

?uestions
17th May 2011, 22:37
I know what you mean Golden. My father was very strict with me. When I think of kids, and the future I think it's our responsibility to teach them well. With love and a will to make them good people. I made a promise to myself that I would do better than my father. To be a more understanding father. To LISTEN to him and earn his trust, because I may need that trust one day. To remind him day in and day out that his daddy loves him very much. Because I do!

I am not one to brag, but when my son is asked to do something he does it. I have NEVER spanked him as I was, and I never yell at him. I speak to him as person. Not a pet. I treat him with respect and dignity. He always has a smile on his face because he's genuinely happy.

And finally, I learn more from him than he does from me. He's taught me to never give up. Once he even saw me sad once and told me, "Daddy, it's okay. Things will get better. And started tickle me!" I couldn't believe it. I just wanted to hold him and thank him for his lesson. Needles to say it was a pizza night! :D

I'm sorry Simgaz if I came off a bit harsh. I too believe in love and respect, but for some reason, maybe because of my size and kind demeanor people see me as a target. But being a Marine taught me to stand tall and stand up for yourself and those you Love. It's the Gemini in me I guess. Air signs can be soft and gentle, but when stirred up can blow a house down!

Take care everyone and sorry for the rant...

Harmonic
17th May 2011, 22:51
School....what!....

School does not prepare young people for life...in what we call the real world...

simgaz
17th May 2011, 23:12
?uestions,

Sorry but I'm not and never have been in this place a hippy, also I wasn't trying to make a 'great' case.

The love and respect thing is not just a nice way to end my posts, it is exactly my feelings and I live by it. When I see a person who has 'not enought', if its possible I try to help. I have been stopped, whilst working abroad, in the streets in London, Toronto, Melbourne, Brussels and others and have never been hurt, but have been able to help. Fear is only a way to give energy, if energy is given without fear it is vastly more powerful. This I do not as yet think is widely know.

I am a child in this place. All of us are, anything else is but a projection of what we are told we are meant to be and act like.
I only at this time speak for me, but this is difficult through us all being of one.
I apologize if you feel that I was trying to make light of you.

Agree that kids should be kids, but parents should take final and total responsibility for their kids upbringing.

All make mistakes, learning from these mistakes is the most fun.

Again love and respect
gary

ps: each and every time that I type that it instils it a little bit more.

You also seem to have a great relationship with your son and that I thank you for.

goldenyears
18th May 2011, 00:07
[QUOTE][Agree that kids should be kids, but parents should take final and total responsibility for their kids upbringing.

/QUOTE]


I totally agree with that.......but it's the toughest job in the world as far as Im concerned.

My son, who is 27 now, and I have a great relationship....but every now and then, he starts with the...."why did you do that? and when you did that it hurt me, and I have a really f@@#$ed up perception of this because you did that".....and all I can tell him is Im sorry, I made a mistake, so move on and dont make the same mistake when you have kids!

All we can do is the best we can, but sometimes it's not always the best in someone else's eyes.

belinda01
18th May 2011, 01:47
Interesting and revealing posts. I have two children in public schools - elementary and middle school. The younger one loves his teacher, and the middle schooler is having a great time - especially Math and Language Arts. She likes the discussions and feels very empowered by the new material she is learning. I have made a point to be in the classroom volunteering and interacting with the teacher and the other students at the elementary level. Of course, there are hideous teachers - just like in ANY job. If you take the time to be involved in your child's school, you will know who they are and you will know how to request another teacher. Sadly, the bad teachers ususally end up with the kids of the parents who don't ever take the time to be a part of their child's education. I do not have the option of staying home and homeschooling. Private school tuition is out of reach (I am a single, working mom). The most disturbing thing to me, on this thread, is all the macho posturing about "putting my foot up her ass" and "b**ch". I thought this forum had a bit more insight in to the nature of all that aggro reactive stuff. It hasn't worked in the last several thousand years to any real extent, and it won't solve any personal conflicts in the long run. In my experience, you are left with your own violence and fear and it will simply attract more of the same. Teachers are pretty easy targets, but they are usually just the messengers.

?uestions
18th May 2011, 01:56
People are different. That's the beauty of a fractal. All the same with a touch of individuality.

AlkaMyst
18th May 2011, 04:34
belinda01

Interesting and revealing posts. I have two children in public schools - elementary and middle school. The younger one loves his teacher, and the middle schooler is having a great time - especially Math and Language Arts. She likes the discussions and feels very empowered by the new material she is learning. I have made a point to be in the classroom volunteering and interacting with the teacher and the other students at the elementary level. Of course, there are hideous teachers - just like in ANY job. If you take the time to be involved in your child's school, you will know who they are and you will know how to request another teacher. Sadly, the bad teachers ususally end up with the kids of the parents who don't ever take the time to be a part of their child's education. I do not have the option of staying home and homeschooling. Private school tuition is out of reach (I am a single, working mom). The most disturbing thing to me, on this thread, is all the macho posturing about "putting my foot up her ass" and "b**ch". I thought this forum had a bit more insight in to the nature of all that aggro reactive stuff. It hasn't worked in the last several thousand years to any real extent, and it won't solve any personal conflicts in the long run. In my experience, you are left with your own violence and fear and it will simply attract more of the same. Teachers are pretty easy targets, but they are usually just the messengers.

Allow me start by saying that I admire that you are a single mother....it takes a strong woman to be able to take on that task!

Now with that out of the way, you mentioned the following above...........


If you take the time to be involved in your child's school, you will know who they are and you will know how to request another teacher. Sadly, the bad teachers ususally end up with the kids of the parents who don't ever take the time to be a part of their child's education. I do not have the option of staying home and homeschooling.

It is amazing how you are using that double talk to make yourself sound good......How you may ask??? You are saying that if parents got involved in their kids schools and get to know their teachers that then one can sort out the bad ones but at the same time you are saying that you don't have the luxury to stay at home and educate your children?.....this goes to show how you are just reliant and controlled by the system, maybe if you educated yourself you would find out that there are many parents who work and home school their children (Ever heard, "Where there's a will there's always a way"). You certainly have time to go and check on the school and teachers, maybe that time you are spending there could be put to good use by educating your child at home instead of relying on someone else telling you what your child is capable or not capable of?

I have 3 kids and they are my world.....I do anything for my children and if that means that I have to bust my ass to educate my kids at home and prevent them from becoming robots and just a number in the teachers daily attention list, while getting fed the daily propaganda BS handed down from the government then that's what I will do. Have you ever picked up your child's history book and realized that every year they change the events and how they happened.....this is confusing children and that is why when they come out of the school system they barely can read and write, but this are the people you trust to educate your child.......it really shows how much learning you have ahead of you!!!

If you really want to know what is really going on inside the school system, then I recommend you watch the following documentary so you can wake up.....my kids understood and sympathize with everything there and chose themselves to be home schooled!!!............."The War on Kids" (http://theavalonfiles.com/stream/war_on_kids/index.html)


The most disturbing thing to me, on this thread, is all the macho posturing about "putting my foot up her ass" and "b**ch". I thought this forum had a bit more insight in to the nature of all that aggro reactive stuff. It hasn't worked in the last several thousand years to any real extent, and it won't solve any personal conflicts in the long run. In my experience, you are left with your own violence and fear and it will simply attract more of the same.

OHHHHH wait, I guess you missed this part here......that's what happens when you don't read through the entire thread, you can now remove your foot out of your mouth!!!




I would put my foot up that teachers A** is she ever talked to one of my kids in such a derogatory manner........B**ch!!!


Ohhh, but I meant that in the best way possible.....just a figure of speech

I have more knowledge and wisdom on my left pinky than that teacher will ever gain in 5 life times (not trying to be cocky at all, but I amaze myself sometimes ) to even stoop to the level of a mind control, government owned puppet.......I agree violence only brings more violence and words can defuse any situation no matter how hopeless it seems!

Blessings,
AlkaMyst

Your statement above is very feminist in nature and you should dig deep within yourself and reflect on that last line as it really shows your true colors.......That is all I have to say about that as I am not going to get into a debate with someone who actually has not done one once of research on the subject at hand. I am as real as they come and I will let the truth be known when it needs to, obviously you know nothing about me and what I stand for because if you did then you would not have sounded as ignorant as you have.

With that said, have a great day and when you are done with the documentary if you wish to watch it, then you can talk to me about anything in regards with the school system......til then, I have nothing else to say!!!

Have a nice day........:)

PS
?uestions

People are different. That's the beauty of a fractal. All the same with a touch of individuality.

Thank you my friend..........very eloquently put :thumb:

Blessings,
AlkaMyst