There's something wrong??

[simgaz]

There's something wrong with this reality!

Can't quite put my finger on it yet, but its near.

Feels like a game, interesting, exciting, compulsive, problematic, different stages to reach, requires learning to play well, new players enter the game, old players leave, hero's and villains, some have skill, some don't, some know the rules, some don't, some cheat, time passes at a rate of knots when playing, seems important while one plays and the game always ends for each player at some level!
Each player also has freedom to act the game out as they wish.

Weird place! Wonder who is writing the software? Maybe you!
But that begs the question, who made the hardware?

Can anyone, please give me a reasonable idea why this is not just another game without the normal emotional responses, along the lines of, 'my life is not a game, my children are not a game, the starving are not a game, the........... 'and such responses.

Love and respect
gary

[TigerLilly]

Hi Gary,

Its not a game its an experience. I believe that we wrote our own software, as in we chose the circumstances which shape our individual experience.
How we react and respond makes us grow and evolve.
if it were all perfect and simple the experience would have little meaning. Its meant to be tough, its meant to be a challenge, but it is also wonderful.

[Bob]

The virtual world is not so virtual after all.

So who knows maybe we do write the the rules of our own game,

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26813/?p1=Blogs

Dont ask me to explain this, but now they can turn a virtual photon into a real one,

Red pilll or Blue sir.

[heretogrow]

I suppose this fits into this thread as it deals with reality. Something is happening to me from the inside out. I don't see the world the way I did five years ago. I am not speaking metaphorically I am talking about the sense of seeing with my eyes. I see everything as tiny particles of energy moving. It looks like a tv screen. I say it is from the inside out because this happens when my eyes are closed and I look at my third eye as well. I have looked it up and found that it can be an eye disorder, but I intuitively know this is not the case. Sometimes I look out at the world and literally think, this is not real! I have always felt energy, now I am seeing it. Is anyone else having a similiar experience?

Much Love,
Julia:)

[Anchor]

There's something wrong with this reality!

Can't quite put my finger on it yet, but its near.

Feels like a game, interesting, exciting, compulsive, problematic, different stages to reach, requires learning to play well, new players enter the game, old players leave, hero's and villains, some have skill, some don't, some know the rules, some don't, some cheat, time passes at a rate of knots when playing, seems important while one plays and the game always ends for each player at some level!
Each player also has freedom to act the game out as they wish.

Weird place! Wonder who is writing the software? Maybe you!
But that begs the question, who made the hardware?

Can anyone, please give me a reasonable idea why this is not just another game without the normal emotional responses, along the lines of, 'my life is not a game, my children are not a game, the starving are not a game, the........... 'and such responses.

There is nothing wrong with this reality - it is doing its job for you. Quite well it seems :)

Perhaps this feeling is a by product of the fact that you are on the verge of grasping an hitherto intangible concept - that you are not what you originally thought you were.

[Akhenaten]

It feels to me like I am somewhat, for lack of better words, operating at 'right angles' to something else. And that is what is 'wrong' if anything, in other words what I am here, what this world is here, is something that is split off in some fundamental way from the (the language breaks) larger reality. Others have also said to me that 'something is just not right here.' The 'not right' feeling is kind of like a vertigo, or instinctive, intuitive, non-intellectual, non-linear sense or knowing of that larger reality that underpins THIS. So while I am not comfortable with the word 'game' in this context because to many 'game' connotes something frivolous and even venal, I think the trick is to play hard, play well, with a sense of lightness, and grace. The letting go is, I think, key. Divine detachment does not mean forsaking human emotions, it means snipping the ties that bind. It is all about coming to know and feel comfortable as an energetic being and trying out the wings and learning to master the available tools so to speak. The words I am using here at best only hint at what I am trying to describe, for whatever it is worth. Actually re-reading this I probably am not being very articulate at all. Birds, wings and flying are about the closest I can get to it. This is something I am working on and my dreams and some daytime experiences seem to indicate I may be on the 'right' path.

[Akhenaten]

I suppose this fits into this thread as it deals with reality. Something is happening to me from the inside out. I don't see the world the way I did five years ago. I am not speaking metaphorically I am talking about the sense of seeing with my eyes. I see everything as tiny particles of energy moving. It looks like a tv screen. I say it is from the inside out because this happens when my eyes are closed and I look at my third eye as well. I have looked it up and found that it can be an eye disorder, but I intuitively know this is not the case. Sometimes I look out at the world and literally think, this is not real! I have always felt energy, now I am seeing it. Is anyone else having a similiar experience?

Much Love,
Julia:)

Here to Grow I have to say that when I saw the description that someone posted, maybe at PA, about seeing these energetic little particles I was shocked. I am aware there is some word to describe a phenomenon associated with seeing the capillary action of the blood cells through the eye (can't remember the term now) and when I first started seeing this I dismissed it as seeing something in, or through the lens of my eyes. I went online and looked at slides of living blood cells and though they were moving they were NOT whizzing around like what I see. But as the phenomenon became more distinct, I realized that blood cells are definitely NOT what I have been seeing. What I see are what I call energetic particles. They are extremely tiny and are literally whizzing around like electrons. At certain times of the day, especially in the evening when the sunlight comes from an angle, I am most aware of this. I can focus my eyes close in, or progressively further and further out in the air in front of me. My field of vision is literally FILLED with these whizzing sparkling particles. I notice that the sunlight seems to be bouncing or reflecting off the 'sides' of them facing the sun, which makes me think I am seeing particles. These are NOT dust motes. I wondered if this has something to do with the high-energy protons that they say are coming into our atmosphere more and more. The phenomenon does seem to be ramping up. I also wondered if what I am seeing is what they call the 'ether' or PRANA or something like that, I have no way of knowing. I have been extremely reluctant to mention this to others and thought maybe I was the only one seeing it. I also have observed something else - these particles have a slightly gold or coppery color. When I am seeing alot of them, the atmosphere seems to be slightly smudged with a coppery color. I have acute visual acuity. Well I finally got enough nerve to mention this to a very close and longtime friend. They were shocked. They told me they had been noticing the same thing. Now I find others are seeing this, too. I never observed this until over the past few years. I have NO idea what it means or what it is but at least now I know I am not the only one seeing this.

[sandy]

Dear Gary,

I don't think we are here playing a game but we are here to have the exalted experience of emotions. I believe we are spirits and know the other dimensions from which we came, thus aspiring to get back there may not be the ultimate game winner. We will get there again and again but we may never get the opportunity to experience 3D again and again.

It is said that some ET's envy us and want our ability to feel emotions as do other EBE's. Angels give us there admiration for our journeys here on earth in 3D as they know the depth of pain and anguish one can experience as well as revel in the joy and love one experiences as well. It is an honor to be in human form and to have this great ability that so many want to ignore, thinking the answer is in joining the void and realms of intellectual positive thinking.

The only way to unconditional love which is pure energy is through your heart energy. If it were a game rather than a personal experience, the competition would be great and many would part take in hopes to be the winner and would even allow themselves to experience the agony, pain, joy and love to become the first to cross the finishing line. Ego would be useful in this case.

What is wrong IMO is that as a human race we have not learned to experience our emotions, grow and evolve together, and as a result we do not communicate and share from the heart. Our head has become the safe place to be and all one has to do is look at the world to see all those in positions of power to see that intellect and ego runs the world. There is an old saying that goes something like this ' We are so smart that We have stupid.

[heretogrow]

Hi Akh,
I agree this does not seem to be the white blood cells. To me it seems like energy. Try this little experiment if you will. When outside under the sky tell yourself you are soaking up this energy. Just sit with it for a while. Then notice all the vegetation, wildlife, pets and people around you. You will see their auras. Also, after soaking this energy up you may be able to "play" with the clouds. I sometimes sit, after energizing myself and then focus on a particular cloud and ask it to leave and it DOES! Very strange. On a few occasions i have been able to make clouds manifest with pure intent as well. I should tell you that I always approach this energy with a thankfulness. I do think it has helped me to become more connected to it.

Have fun! And if you try this experiment, please let me know the results. It took a little while for me but now I interact with it much easier!

Much Love,
Julia:)

[simgaz]

Thank you all for the replies, I am at a loss as to how to reply!


Sorry but I'm very excited about this as from the things you've said, I don't feel so alone any more! Wrong words because I don't feel alone, this would be impossible, except in this place! Don't make sense I know but still!


I have always since being young have seen, as I put it a very fine light rain, this is constant indoors or outside (I did post this type of thing at PA but was it seemed ignored). It is not concerning, rather it has a gentle effect on me. It just is always there.
If the room is dark and if I hold my arm up, then I see my arm as a continuous movement of white very small dots (millions)! This is also surrounded by a violet haze.
For many years, friends who have young children have told me that their kids see me as a 'purple man', lol.
I have over time asked people what they thought about this and have always been looked at strange, but that is not new as again, since as I was old enough to say no, I have never taken any kind of medicine and have not been unwell or felt any need to eat. I do eat, now maybe once every few days, but this seems more from a need to be accepted in my own ego, if that makes sense. I'm not skinny, 6 foot 4 inches, 15 stone.
Also do you stop time, or slow it down? Have found that if I wish to then I have a set way where I can make 1 hour, be 14 hours. 14 seems a out the blue number, but that is how it has always been!
Sorry lots more but am just so excited that others see this energy, never spoke to any one else who admitted to it!
Not making sense, but hey what does?


Love and respect
gary

[simgaz]

Also colours, do you use colours?


I use purple if I need to force something to be or stop, or a very bright yellow if I need to repair something?


Do you do this type of thing?


Love and respective
gary

[Akhenaten]

Colors are very important to me - especially Cobalt Blue. I do not see auras.........but have always been extremely sensitive to colors, sort of 'feel' them in my solar plexus. On time - I do not use a watch. Usually I seem to be pretty close and aware of the 'time' - watches ALWAYS break on me, wind-ups and battery-powered. I do not use an alarm clock to wake up. I can instruct myself to wake up at a certain time and it almost always works. Also, I seldom get lost. I seem to have an internal spatial compass that orients me N S E W that has been very helpful. But these are not special abilities - everyone has them I think, they just have become somewhat dormant in many people unfortunately. Use it or lose it.

[heretogrow]

Hmm, this is all so interesting. I do not see colors. Unless you can include how all things look flourersent after meditation. But once my focus comes back in when I open my eyes this fades. But I understand the rain. It is like a grainy appearance that dances. Nothing looks solid. I see this with and without glasses. Whitout, my vision is 20/400, very bad. I have never been able to see more than about six inches in front of my face for as long as I can remember. Yet without glasses I can see these tiny seperate dots. I have always thought that this energy is conscious. Like when I mentioned playing with the clouds, they seemed to react to my intentions.

I must warn from experience though, some people don't react well when you show them this can be done. I had one person whom I thought would understand tell me that this freaked them out and walked in the house and left me sitting there by myself. They didn't come back out so I walked home, perplexed. I sort of assumed with the new energies coming in that many people would experience this and have seen it as well. Perhaps this comes about only if you embrace these mysteries and are nonjudgemental about them. I really think this is available to all. So many people are so busy, they don't look for the magic that surrounds them. I hope everyone on here tries to see what we are talking about. I know I am going to explore the energies of colr, the next time I am alone.
Thanks so much for these little pearls! I can't wait to explore!!!
Julia:)

[Akhenaten]

People hardly go outside at night to look at the stars anymore so it is not surprising to me that perhaps relatively few people take the time to sit or stand quietly and observe.

I think it also has something to do with attention and a certain way of seeing. For example I used to amuse myself by looking at a lawn of clover and instantly picking out those that were different than the 3-leaved ones. Driving with a friend telling them about this, they decided to test me and pulled over at the side of the road by a field of clovers. I instantly picked out a four leaf clover and they were surprised. Once I was sitting on a lawn with some people and children and asked the children if they would like a 4-leaf clover. They said yes, so I immediately picked one out for them. When they asked "how did you do that?!" I said to them it is easy - you just look at all the clovers and only see those that have more than 3 leaves. Instantly one little girl ran over and said "Like this?!" She had found a 4-leaf clover. It is mental the seeing, it has to do with suggesting another frame of perception. Children, being very open and flexible, get it right away. I think everyone has the capacity to see things outside the usual frame of reference but unfortunately our so-called educational/socialization process wipes most peoples' minds clean of this possibility.

[heretogrow]

I have noticed the unabanoned wisdom of children.

I consider it a great compliment when a baby seems to just bubble up inside and communicate.

I think you are so right about the inate ability of the new humans. They are not tainted or conditioned so they are able to see so much more without affixing preconditions or judgements.

My daughter and I, before we moved into my parent's house, lived in a house that was busy and exciting with young people. I have asked many of the neighborhood children if they can see the energy that we have described above and most of them said yes!

Sadly tho, and I do not know what is significant about adolescence, unless it has to do with hormones or conditioning, when I ask about their dreams most of these neighborhood kids cease to travel out of 3-d by the time they enter middle school. The youngest ones would describe dreams of flying, leaving their bodies and totally experiencing spiritual freedom, but by the time they were 11 or 12, they would only describe dreams that reflected what happened in their usual day or an extension there of.

So through adolescence do we go through a period of amnesia which is hormonal, or are we so conditioned by society that we abandon all of the magic. I wish I knew. What happens and what dissapears at this age! How do we hold on and embrace these energies, or more suscintly, how do we nurture our children to not let go of this wonderful, energetic power?

I remember the feeling of flying when I was young. I also remember the sad thought that this was not important and was not real. Fortunately, my whimsical side was well embedded and I chose to abandon the most serious and seek out the most free side of me to try to experience what was lost once again.

But I still wonder, why do we stop looking for four leaf clovers?!

Much Love,
Julia:)

[Akhenaten]

You know Julia - that is a very good question. I do not know! Maybe if we all rediscovered our sense of childlike wonder things would feel much more right with ourselves and the world! Akh

[Anchor]

I have noticed the unabanoned wisdom of children.

I consider it a great compliment when a baby seems to just bubble up inside and communicate.

I think you are so right about the inate ability of the new humans. They are not tainted or conditioned so they are able to see so much more without affixing preconditions or judgements.

My daughter and I, before we moved into my parent's house, lived in a house that was busy and exciting with young people. I have asked many of the neighborhood children if they can see the energy that we have described above and most of them said yes!

Sadly tho, and I do not know what is significant about adolescence, unless it has to do with hormones or conditioning, when I ask about their dreams most of these neighborhood kids cease to travel out of 3-d by the time they enter middle school. The youngest ones would describe dreams of flying, leaving their bodies and totally experiencing spiritual freedom, but by the time they were 11 or 12, they would only describe dreams that reflected what happened in their usual day or an extension there of.

Here how about this from a "tween"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hynAE-7gMOg

[simgaz]

Hi all, first please allow me to say sorry for my 2 excited posts on this thread, from yesterday.
It was the first time which I have heard of others seeing the type of thing which I see! I have searched online for someone else with the same experience but with no luck and assumed that I was just being silly!


Now TigerLilly,
Even though you are not able to post here now, I still wish to discuss your points, which I thank you for.
Just looked at a thread by Myst, which is about The Law Of One book, which I have not as yet read, but will and part of the quote by Myst , from RA says:


You cannot remember your hand, their hands, perhaps even the rules of this game. This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting influence of love, can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly: ?All, all of you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you.? This is the game: to know, to accept, to forgive, to balance, and to open the self in love. This cannot be done without the forgetting, for it would carry no weight in the life of the mind/body/spirit being-ness totality.


So can we agree that we give this 'game' the name: Experience


Bob, my strangely beautiful faced friend,
I think that the problem may be the use of the word virtual.
To me it implies, not real or has a potential to be real.
What if the 'rain' which I see is not neutrinos (or energy) just holding the possibility of all pasts, presents and futures, but that they are also a 'virtual' new particle here in this place if we wish to give 'experience' to them?
Personally I took the Green pill!
Or was it the song by Pil, I could be right I could be wrong?


Heretogrow, my heart to you,
thank you for sharing this, it is to me wonderful.
I did have my eyes checked once, had to for a job and supposedly both spot on.
Cant 'play' with clouds, but will try more, and with a purer intent. Amazing that you do this, brilliant!


Anchor,
Would have to say that none of us are what we think we are, we can be infinitely more.
Wrong is maybe the wrong word, but there is something, on the cusp, so near, but like a dream you haven't had yet, but nearly remember!


Akhenaten, whom I'm sure I knew before?
Your words of post #6 and 7 are very articulate and I can only agree with you. Thank you.
(have you considered that they may be another stage of life?)
Used to use the colour blue when I wanted to 'feel' what all other selves were feeling, but stopped doing this when the feelings became too dark. (my poems at this time were sad to say the least!)
I also use the solar plexus a great deal along with the groin and third eye.
Regarding watches etc, I cannot wear anything including rings, chains and the like, it just makes me feel less! As if I'm being drained!
You are correct, most never in their lives actually feel a part of Mother Earth, nor consider the stars and their place in this plane, it is a sadness!
Tried to do the 'clover' trick, but the same as the 'clouds' it is beyond me right now. Drat!


Dearest Sandy,
Using our emotions and feelings here is as our cards which we play in this 'experience' and to be honest, I will not sign up for this again unless the playing field is more level! I do not like seeing suffering on such a massive scale.
The energy of love is the most powerful, especially when given to all without limitation, but it is the ego which requires to be first, love is always first.
We are so smart that we have stupid, true, same as only beings as stupid as humans could be bored in such a place as this!


How can we get others to see as children but act with responsibility for all their actions?? Maybe we do not need to and we are just the last remnants of our time and the children of now will create that which we should have?

love and respect
gary

[sandy]

Dear Gary,

I couldn't agree more as your last paragraph says it all. However, lets have fun doing and being all that we strive to until then. :)

Love and Light Always,

Sandy

[Akhenaten]

Someone very wise once said to me that we should tenderly love and cherish our own selves body and soul. I suspect that is a way back to the child within. Heretogrow on the cloud thing, I am sure you know that the Tibetans consider clouds to be living things. That puts a whole other face on our experience with clouds! I will tell you a brief cloud story - once some years ago when I was in despair over all the bad things going on in the world and had shed some tears thinking 'please help! everything seems so hopeless and dark!' I calmed down and looked up at the clear blue sky. As I looked a small puffy cloud formed - there were no other clouds that I could see in the sky. Then, a horizontal slit formed in the cloud, and - amazingly, a smile formed! The smile was so human that the edges of the slit curled up so that it looked like upper and lower LIPS! The cloud was smiling at me! I thought NO WAY...........but the smile became even more human! You have no idea how this tender smile reassured me and made me feel that I was not alone after all. This was one of my 'peak experiences' in this life and confirmed for me that there is a higher reality and love is its essence.

[simgaz]

Wow Akh,
Mother Earth or Mother Nature if you prefer, smiling at you! Knowing you and of your feelings and caring!

Well there may be something wrong with the way that I perceive this strange place, but there is so much right with your experience.

Well played that day!

love and respect
gary

[Akhenaten]

Dark Night of the Soul so to speak. Even so I was comforted.

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I have been seeing those 'sparkley whizzing dots for years off and on. The other day i was sat down and my vision was suddenly filled with these 'things' the only way i can describe them is like electrons or energy particles whizzing about in all directions but seemingly falling like rain (if that makes sense) it also reminded me of the static you see on Tv, radiation like.

I started thinking 'i wonder if they are coming from the sun' and immediately it increased 100 fold.
I noticed that as soon as i thought about something else it would diminish almost like if you noticed it you could see it better?
I think changes are afoot!
Also,in relation to what Akhenaten said earlier, Ive heard physicists talking about other dimensions as being at 90 degrees to our reality.

[Akhenaten]

Hurritt - Exactly! This sounds like what I see! I never heard or read any physicists saying that other dimensions are located 90 degrees to ours.............I just said that off the top of my head - do you remember where you saw that?! I find that to be very interesting. Akh

p.s. I wonder if anyone else sees this coppery/golden haze in the atmosphere that I see? At first I thought it was all the pollution, but now because I see a similar golden/coppery tinge to the particles I think it might be coming from them, but I could be wrong. Entering totally unfamiliar territory here.

p.p.s. What Hurritt said about directing his attention seeming to influence the degree to which he perceived the sparkley particles - that triggered something in my mind to the effect of the whole role of consciousness in reality and how only recently has that idea articulated in the Orgone theory, even been permitted to enter official discourse. MAYBE the effect confirms, in your own personal experience, Hurritt - this is kind of woo-woo, but bear with me please - THAT WE HUMANS ARE CAPABLE OF RADICALLY INFLUENCING 'REALITY.' To me - not to get too carried away here - this is possibly one of THE GREAT SECRETS ABOUT US that we are not supposed to become aware of.

[Greybeard]

At one point I saw everything as in golden brilliant Technicolor, went to the Dr he though perhaps low blood pressure but it was normal, it went.
I had a very loving feeling with it.

Last year I had a floating kind of feeling while walking, I did not feel weak or dizzy it lasted months again the dr could find nothing wrong--- it came back last week for several days.
There was a thread on Avalon where people shared similar experiences.
People felt they did not belong naturally on this planet.
I dont feel it is my home but I honestly dont know if that is true
Chris

[Akhenaten]

I never felt 'at home' here, either. As I get older I see that as a good thing! I think I also may have experienced the feeling you describe Chris - almost like (for me anyway) I am 'part here' and part 'somewhere else.' Like I am something sticking through into here, attached to (sorry this is so awkward) something else somewhere else.

Or....maybe it is a lasting subliminal effect of the movie BRAZIL!!

[heretogrow]

Wow! Thank you so much for this thread! You are all beautiful and the connection we have feels wonderful. I am feeling very loved at the moment thanks to all of you! Can you feel it too?!

And to Tigerlilly, my heart goes out to you... I felt your sadness, and I am sending you my love. Big Hug

Julia:)

PS- Should say this bubbling over with emotion came about because I am so grateful for all of you. The fact that I have found friends of a feather is very special! Never felt home on this planet much either, but I feel I am in great company now!

[lightblue]

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nothing's wrong,....only more interesting than it's ever been...i call my daytime working hours a sleep state...gawd knows where i'm off to when i am awake - i get really busy.....can't name the places but i've been to/seen many...

someone here on one of the spirituality forum threads stated that the intense fear is likely to be experienced when traveling through space - i pledge NO..:no: .there's no fear to be felt when you are zooming through space :crazy_pilot:.. experiencing fear means you are still attached to your mind and material body...means you are not off, it's your projection of your being off...

it's very eventful in between worlds and outside of time and "me"...

i think if you spend too long in the mind, you don't get to travel ..also, when you do get to travel, you lose your sense of "me" - there's no more: wow, I can do it, there's s only: it's a great state of beingness! .your consciousness remains intact, just stripped of "me" ...i much prefer my "me-lessness" ..you get a lot more done...:secret: .l


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[HURRITT ENYETO]

Hi Ank,
You asked where i had heard the 90 degree thing.
Well i have heard several people mention it, the one that came to mind was an interview i listened to the other day in which Preston Nickhols (montalk project) appeared. Not sure about Preston Nichols but here it is mentioned re other dimensions.

* Excerpt*
Extrapolating from these principles, it can be understood that parallel realities are 90 degrees out-ofphase with our "normal reality". In other words if there is a parallel reality, one has to consider that it
has potential energy. It is not activated of itself. It would also be 90 degrees out-of-kilter from our
normal viewpoint. The fact that it is potential energy means that it has the capability to flow to our
reality and vice versa.
*End excerpt*
http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Nichols_02.pdf
(page 18)
I have heard a physicist mention it also (will let you know if i remember his name)
Cheers
Hurritt

ps it appears there is actually quite a bit out there about other realities being at 90 degrees to our own.
Interesting.

[Anchor]

Would have to say that none of us are what we think we are, we can be infinitely more.
Wrong is maybe the wrong word, but there is something, on the cusp, so near, but like a dream you haven't had yet, but nearly remember!

YES! I agree with this...

My personal experience of stages of consciousness expansion are very similar to remembering something I was trying to remember. You know when you fail to recall some fact you know you know, but fail, then later it just pops into your mind.

This process for me has been catalysed by many things over the last ten years or so by reading, listening, interaction on forums etc but the greatest leaps came when I started to meditate regularly.

In the last four years I have discovered some of my purposes and mission on this planet, together with what my specialties (those known to me at this time) are...

... and in all this, I still feel like this is only the beginning!

Its so completely exciting I could burst sometimes - and when I see people on the "cusp" of transformational "stages" of consciousness, it simply reinforces my complete hope that we will transform this reality into the harmonious and pure space we always knew it should be.

John..

[Akhenaten]

Thanks Hurritt! Never heard of that particular Montauk piece. You know how it goes though - once something is 'out there' in the atmosphere so to speak, especially if it rings true - it takes on a life of its own. THAT's probably where I came up with the 90-degree thing, OR I absorbed it unconsciously and am, unconsciously PLAGARIZING! If so, I apologize to whoever. (Can ideas really be stolen?!) 90 degrees. 90 degrees. Maybe that is REALLY what it means to be 'right'?! Now where did the concept of WRONG come from? Only joking. :) OK, the idea again of ideas whose time has come, ideas/thought memes as contagious energetic wave forms.....I am coming back around again to the metaphor of flocks of birds suddenly and simultaneously shifting their direction in flight as if they are of ONE mind, one body.

We are electrical beings. We are like THIS (but don't know it yet)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XH-groCeKbE

[Anchor]

We are electrical beings.

I have seen us referred to as "mostly water with some chemicals added", another descriptions included the label "Chemical Distilleries" LOL

A more accurate description from my perspective would be "thought".

[moais]

hmm, if you say that we are agents that create or do something in a certain place, we can be called actors, this thinking can proove that theres not much importance of the person behind the role, yes, each person acts diferently, and for each one theres a more fitting role here, but people change with time, think that time is infinite, and that we live uncountable lives already, so we can say that proably we have been almost everything in our "life", if this is true, we have lots of experience, we do not need to study or observe, we can just be, the barrier between the actor and the persona can be more easily maneuveured, so that the person will lose himself in this act, thinking that during the play he is the person he is supposed to be, this can probably lead to a minor case of identity loss, its normal, and just a thing that happens normally, with very " " experienced" " ( notice double " ") actors, so that if one time, the game or act starts to be stranged by one character, or is he too smart to realise its an act he can realise its a "dream" and wake up from the "matrix"

hmm, i cant make sense of what i wrote, but i think this will help, tried to help,

maybe if you see it in a more metaphor way it can be seen easier, or just think, that humans need to exteriorize to understand their inner selves, so this could be too something momentarily, or a nice catch to start a discussion about reality, individual realities, and how perception of the world can change the reality of the person. hmmm i think maybe.....

[Akhenaten]

I have seen us referred to as "mostly water with some chemicals added", another descriptions included the label "Chemical Distilleries" LOL

A more accurate description from my perspective would be "thought"....

unless you are from Canada and then you are mostly beer! I am only kidding!

[simgaz]

Good day my friends and thanks for your very open sharing.



Hurritt Enyeto
Thank you my friend for sharing as I am now believing that many may be having these types of experiences, but not talking about them through not wishing to be seen as strange and I agree, changes are afoot!


Akhenaten,
I think that which ever angle you turn your focus on, you will always see and therefore realise a different reality, or view!
I haven't seen the coppery/golden haze, but I think Chris (greybeard may have)?
And as far as I'm aware of this place, this is true:


?Hurritt - this is kind of woo-woo, but bear with me please - THAT WE HUMANS ARE CAPABLE OF RADICALLY INFLUENCING 'REALITY.' To me - not to get too carried away here - this is possibly one of THE GREAT SECRETS ABOUT US that we are not supposed to become aware of. ?


Greybeard, Chris, my self,
Only times in which I get the 'floaty' feeling, is when I meditate in a certain way. Now when I do meditate (for the past couple of years in this way), I either concern my being with expanding to try to become all or diminishing to become nothing.
If I do neither of these, but sort of hang mid point, then I experience an unbalancing of my perceptions!
Only way I can put it is, I spin. Up can be and feel as down, left and right are the same or interwoven, the balance of my reality is gone and I float! Its quite fun!
I also do not feel that I, this entity which is me here, is instructed to be at this time, but I did chose to be at this point, in this place and am part of all that is.
Just need to remember that dream, which I haven't had yet!


Julia, Heretogrow,
Totally correct, the beauty is in knowing that the connection we are finding between us is also available to all of nature and the love which that can allow to be.
I also find that I more and more fill with tears, of joy, as I see other selves experience happiness in sharing and become one with compassion.


Lightblue,
It is very interesting, this place, and I'm quite jealous that you can travel as you do, this is something I must learn, as my experiences are only of other 'games'. Different, yes, but I don't experience this place all that much as it would seem that I go else where as soon and as often as I can!
You can only have 'fear' because of a physical body, your defiantly right, but acceptance of death of the body but continuation of being, removes acceptance of the negative.
I think that 'The Me' is the mind and the mind is the ego, removal of the ego will not distinguish that self which is you, but will allow a greater knowledge of you, therefore all!


John, Anchor.
Most joy in the feeling, it is so close for so many, we will remember and know that which each and all needs to be and do.
The thing is to accept that which you truly are, this is not ego, it is knowing a fact and then share that joy with all other selves!
Touch one heart with love, you touch all. We are all only a thought.


Moais, who knows the date which this world and time ends :0
As far as I know, each of us all have been everything and all things, just we didn't do some things correctly so have returned or we have chosen to return to assist our other selves to progress, even though we may then not!
Acceptance of all knowing is a want that I would prefer here not to have, as then it defeats any learning that I can accomplish in this choice of 'Experience', at this point of the flow of pretend time!


Love and respect to all
gary

[wynderer]

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nothing's wrong,....only more interesting than it's ever been...i call my daytime working hours a sleep state...gawd knows where i'm off to when i am awake - i get really busy.....can't name the places but i've been to/seen many...

someone here on one of the spirituality forum threads stated that the intense fear is likely to be experienced when traveling through space - i pledge NO..:no: .there's no fear to be felt when you are zooming through space :crazy_pilot:.. experiencing fear means you are still attached to your mind and material body...means you are not off, it's your projection of your being off...

it's very eventful in between worlds and outside of time and "me"...

i think if you spend too long in the mind, you don't get to travel ..also, when you do get to travel, you lose your sense of "me" - there's no more: wow, I can do it, there's s only: it's a great state of being! .your consciousness remains intact, just stripped of "me" ...i much prefer my "me-lessness" ..you get a lot more done...:secret: .l


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hi lightblue -- i've also been feeling more & more strongly that this 'waking' state we're in is actually a dream state -- i have come to the conclusion also that all the 'dream work' i did in past years was kind of a waste of time -- i am convinced that the Reptilian/Grey/Human NWO completely controls the Human collective unconscious, & thus Human dreams -- every child has 'nightmares' which i now think are just another way the NWO /Illuminati creates a state of fear -- most nightmares have little to do w/a person's life/thoughts

it's known that the NWO uses symbols to control minds, & the collective unconscious is ALL symbols

i have no interest in 'lucid dreaming,' which i now see as coming to a kind of consciousness & wandering around in a dream state controlled by the NWO

it occurred to me recently that, every night, we leave our bodies & some of us, at least, get free of this NWO-controlled dimension -- but very few of us remember where we've gone -- i have had people tell me of helpful things i've done when we've met in the dream state, but i don't remember them

very bad karma for those who are interfering w/the lawful right of Humans to access higher dimensions

[Akhenaten]

What worries me a little bit is my dreams at this time. As I have said elsewhere they resemble the movie BRAZIL ..... i.e. a tweak on the experiences 'here' a little off at another angle, maybe 90 degrees? Clearly if I am to avoid the pitfalls of my experiences here I must have a lot of 'work' to do (if karma is true and we generate our futures in thought, word and deed) because it makes me nervous worrying that Robert Di Niro is about to bust through the ceiling, speaking metaphorically of course! :)

[lightblue]

wyn
it occurred to me recently that, every night, we leave our bodies & some of us, at least, get free of this NWO-controlled dimension -- but very few of us remember where we've gone -- i have had people tell me of helpful things i've done when we've met in the dream state, but i don't remember them

very bad karma for those who are interfering w/the lawful right of Humans to access higher dimensions

wyn, i do remember them very well, just can't name them and i never ask for names..just not interested.....my experience tells me you need to let yourself be helped to begin with... then, you can be off all by yourself...you'll probably are going to be given a tool, so you can rid yourself of unwelcome intruders...don't fear.. :crazy_pilot: l


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[simgaz]

What worries me a little bit is my dreams at this time. As I have said elsewhere they resemble the movie BRAZIL ..... i.e. a tweak on the experiences 'here' a little off at another angle, maybe 90 degrees? Clearly if I am to avoid the pitfalls of my experiences here I must have a lot of 'work' to do (if karma is true and we generate our futures in thought, word and deed) because it makes me nervous worrying that Robert Di Niro is about to bust through the ceiling, speaking metaphorically of course! :)

Dear Akhenaten,

What if your being is at this point, not time but point which has no space, no time but all memories, is re-living more than just one learning 'experience'?
This will create a sense of displacement if the soul is too awake!
Its a gift you have.

Had to read a synopsis of Brazil, as have never seen it, if fact haven't seen very much! :)

love and respect
gary

[Akhenaten]

It does seem as though a number of things are going on 'here' - a number of threads in the tapestry.......being a holographic entity is a little disorienting. The movie Brazil is one of my favorites and totally captures that sense of 'although it SEEMS familiar, something just is a little off kilter here' that I get a lot. I was 'there' again last night, in Brazil I mean.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teufz17PqoY

[simgaz]

Akh,
I wondered if your other self, is also feeling and expressing these type of thoughts?

love and respect
gary

You could try to connect with you?

[Akhenaten]

yes..........and yes there is a connection


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=291QciJA2Wo

[simgaz]

Now I can be totally incorrect here but, have you considered that at this point your being may be both sides of the same coin?
Suppressed and elite.
2 memories at the same point of time.
Experiencing individually but connected.

Therefore the turmoil ensures, mainly in the 'good' face of the coin!

love and respect
gary

[Akhenaten]

Turmoil? what turmoil? It is what it is. the two particular aspects I am using the movie Brazil to discuss (note: the movie Brazil is a metaphor) have more in common than they have differences. I suppose it is hopeless to discuss this kind of a phenomenon because it is very subjective...................I only brought the whole thing up as one illustration of the feeling many have 'here' that something is off kilter................and that the sense of disequilibrium we feel sometimes may originate in our simultaneously inhabiting multiple realities.................

[Anno]

I've gone off using the word Game. It's the first word that comes to mind when we sense 'not real', but it implies no consequences and the consequences of actions in this reality are very real so saying it's a Game is dangerous I think. Like saying nothing matters. I've not found a replacement word yet. Bill Hicks' "It's just a ride" is good. But again, the consequences of actions are very real in terms of how they affect our physical/energetic bodies and our souls so we carry them with us when we get off the ride or reach the big Game Over screen in the sky.

Re the swirly dot things. This is one of those things that I thought were down to too much lsd/cannabis until I actually gave it a go. I found a clear patch of blue sky (pretty hard these days) and relaxed my focus. I saw them straight away. They're definitely not inside my eyes and their movement patterns are very organic like birds or fish.