Wtf

[Northern Boy]

How does a forum Bot rate getting a friggen sticky unless some one is sympathetic to the IPCC`s controlled Greenpeace . Let alone 3 of them

[Warponies]

I have no answer for you as far as the sticky part. But Greenpeace is just another part of the PTB that makes people think some good is being served in the world when its mostly just self serving.

another example the 'idea' is nice but the execution is another matter...

[Limited Edition]

I don't like the way our EARTH MATTERS section is being over run by Greenpeace. It deserves a separate space of its own.IMO.

[andywight]

When you sticky/endorse something without a disclaimer the message is very clear, I also don't feel comfortable with this.

[ZookieMonster]

I've been (wrongfully) maligned as a fount of negative energy by Sweet William, heir to Camelot, there on Avalon ... so I stayed away from Greenpeace matters as I've only a negative opinion of them (e.g. as I do all enviro groups funded by foundational grants and what not). I mean, can you blame me? The last thing I want to do is give creedence to Sweet William's opinion of me. That being said, now that someone else has brought it up, I tend to agree with teh opinion that Greenpeace is a front of the elites.

Following the money trail as always worked for me ... and I tells ya ... Greenpeace don't look all that up and up to me:
http://www.undueinfluence.com/greenpeace.htm


beginExcerpt
Grants to Greenpeace Fund:

Foundation Name: Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Inc.
Abstract: For efforts to encourage corporate demand for sustainably managed forest products in North America and Europe
Amount: $50,000 Year Authorized: 2001

Foundation Name: Charles Stewart Mott Foundation
Abstract: For continued support to encourage development of philanthropy in Russia through market research, development of fundraising strategies and dissemination of information to Russian nongovernmental organizations
Amount: $49,000 Year Authorized: 2002

Foundation Name: The Trust for Mutual Understanding
Abstract: For travel to Lake Baikal by Russian and American participants in project designed to draw increased national and international attention to environmental problems affecting the lake and watershed
Amount: $25,000 Year Authorized: 2001

Foundation Name: Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Inc.
Abstract: Toward efforts to support expansion of sustainable agriculture in China
Amount: $150,000 Year Authorized: 2001
Duration: 2-year grant

Foundation Name: Reiman Charitable Foundation, Inc.
Abstract: For general support
Amount: $50,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: The Scherman Foundation, Inc.
Abstract: For general support
Amount: $80,000 Year Authorized: 2001
Duration: 2-year grant

Foundation Name: The Overbrook Foundation
Abstract: For general support
Amount: $10,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: Columbia Foundation
Abstract: For True Food Consumer Action Network, San Francisco-based pilot initiative to educate consumers about transgenic crops and sustainable agriculture
Amount: $75,000 Year Authorized: 2001

Foundation Name: The Capital Group Companies Charitable Foundation
Abstract: For general support
Amount: $14,000 Year Authorized: 2001

Foundation Name: Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Inc.
Abstract: For Global Warming Campaign, which raises awareness of global warming
Amount: $75,000 Year Authorized: 2001

Foundation Name: The New York Community Trust
Abstract: To engage college students in global warming campaign
Amount: $50,000 Year Authorized: 2001

Foundation Name: HKH Foundation
Abstract: For environmental protection program
Amount: $35,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: The John Merck Fund
Abstract: To conduct strategically designed public education and media campaigns that increase support for abating climate change
Amount: $30,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: The Wilburforce Foundation
Abstract: For Transforming the Market: Pressure to Protect British Columbia's Coastal Temperate Rainforest
Amount: $35,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: Turner Foundation, Inc.
Abstract: For World Heritage Forests program to achieve protection for primary forests in Russia
Amount: $50,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: Turner Foundation, Inc.
Abstract: To map old-growth forest areas in Western Russia, and encourage paper mills to forego old-growth wood, and to provide monitoring and testing information through Toxics Rapid Response Laboratory for communities in Volga River Basin; for national toxics campaign, Global Dioxin Elimination Project to develop state, national and international support for elimination of dioxin generating products
Amount: $150,000 Year Authorized: 1999

Foundation Name: Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Inc.
Abstract: To help build European buyer pressure for sustainable forestry practices in British Columbia
Amount: $100,000 Year Authorized: 2000
Duration: 2-year grant

Foundation Name: Charles Stewart Mott Foundation
Abstract: To increase potential of fundraising from the general public in Russia by implementing successful Western fundraising techniques appropriate to Russian culture and society
Amount: $100,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
Abstract: To conserve, sustainably manage, and independently monitor forest resources
Amount: $300,000 Year Authorized: 2000
Duration: 3-year grant

Foundation Name: The Trust for Mutual Understanding
Abstract: For travel and related expenses for series of seminars on forestry issues to be held in Russia for representatives of small regional NGOs, and to support Russian and American participation at conference on issues of chemical pollution and ecological education held in Volga River Basin
Amount: $40,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: The David and Lucile Packard Foundation
Abstract: For Global Pirate Fishing Project
Amount: $450,000 Year Authorized: 2000

Foundation Name: Wallace Global Fund
Amount: $60,000 Year Authorized: 1999

Foundation Name: Stephen and Tabitha King Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $10,000 Year Authorized: 1998

Foundation Name: John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
Abstract: For project, Double Standards in the Oil Production Industry of Russia
Amount: $50,000 Year Authorized: 1999

Foundation Name: The Trust for Mutual Understanding
Abstract: For international travel by Russian and American environmental specialists participating in workshops held in connection with Greenpeace 's Russian Ecological Hotspots project
Amount: $50,000 Year Authorized: 1998

Foundation Name: Turner Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $60,000 Year Authorized: 1998

Foundation Name: W. Alton Jones Foundation, Inc.
Abstract: To form committee of scientists to analyze COGEMA's (nuclear processing company) petition for new permit to discharge radioactive and toxic wastes into sea and air from La Hague and to publish peer-reviewable critique before French government decides whether or not to issue a new permit
Amount: $120,000 Year Authorized: 1998

Foundation Name: Joyce Mertz-Gilmore Foundation
Abstract: For Solar Mediterranean Project
Amount: $50,000 Year Authorized: 1998

Foundation Name: Charles Stewart Mott Foundation
Abstract: To encourage development of philanthropy in Russia through market research, development of fundraising strategies and dissemination of information to Russian nongovernmental organizations (NGOs)
Amount: $100,000 Year Authorized: 1999

Foundation Name: John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
Abstract: To identify and map large old-growth forests in European Russia and Ural Mountains
Amount: $90,066 Year Authorized: 1998
Duration: 1 1/2-year grant

Foundation Name: Turner Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $40,000 Year Authorized: 1997

Foundation Name: Lannan Foundation
Amount: $100,000 Year Authorized: 1996

Foundation Name: Turner Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $40,000 Year Authorized: 1996

Foundation Name: The Joyce Foundation
Abstract: For continued support to encourage transition to non-chemical drycleaning
Amount: $120,000 Year Authorized: 1997
Duration: 2-year grant

Foundation Name: The Rockefeller Foundation
Abstract: Toward Oxford Solar Investment Summit
Amount: $20,000 Year Authorized: 1996

Foundation Name: HKH Foundation
Amount: $15,000 Year Authorized: 1995

Foundation Name: The Joyce Foundation
Abstract: To encourage transition to new drycleaning process that does not rely on toxic chemicals and to develop similar projects in other industries
Amount: $60,000 Year Authorized: 1996

Foundation Name: Wallace Genetic Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $15,000 Year Authorized: 1995

Foundation Name: Lannan Foundation
Abstract: For unrestricted support
Amount: $100,000 Year Authorized: 1995

Foundation Name: Rockefeller Brothers Fund
Abstract: Toward The Solar Century, project to encourage corporate investments in solar energy as alternative to fossil fuel use
Amount: $30,000 Year Authorized: 1997

Foundation Name: Town Creek Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $10,000 Year Authorized: 1993

Foundation Name: Public Welfare Foundation, Inc.
Abstract: For Women, Health and the Environment project helping to define public health as environmental issue. Project's initial focus is on epidemic proportions of breast cancer in industrialized world
Amount: $75,000 Year Authorized: 1994

Foundation Name: The Joyce Foundation
Abstract: To explore commercial potential of non-chemical dry cleaning
Amount: $20,000 Year Authorized: 1993

Foundation Name: Foundation for Deep Ecology
Abstract: For native anti-nuclear activities
Amount: $15,000 Year Authorized: 1992

Foundation Name: The Max and Victoria Dreyfus Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $10,000 Year Authorized: 1989

Foundation Name: Town Creek Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $10,000 Year Authorized: 1990

Foundation Name: Town Creek Foundation, Inc.
Amount: $10,000 Year Authorized: 1988
end


Just don't look right to me. Just like Noam Chomsky no longer looks right to me (was once a huge fan of his, until 9/11/2001 happened and he revealed his true colors and funding umbilicus).

:typing:

ps: Humble opinions all around.

ps2: Oops ... forgot to add ... I don't think Greenpeace is all that big an issue in the post-9/11 reality ... so I'm not at all bothered by their presence on Nexus (tho' perhaps the sticky could pose problems in the way people interpret our stand on Greenpeace. The MOD group is not a monolithic lot and we do have our own opinions on things. Which is a good thing. <---------- keeps us all on the plane and away from the pyramid, as it were.

[Isostool]

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[flower]

Well... Rich has always said to me...

GP is part of the corporate machine..but the "pleebs " at the bottom are just working hard like others to make a better world... Who else is climbing aboard artic oil rigs and making a stand for what is maybe the last pristine place on the planet.


He is just finishing the last of the time line (going up before the end of the day)..I mentioned this thread to him...and he will come make a post after.


I agree...that it should not be stickied...especialy without a disclaimer..

and yes maybe its own section is a good idea

[lightblue]

.
geenpeace has things to clarify about their mission..

wonder what their statement on carbon taxes was/is? i don't think they made one - so they don't antagonise some of their funders i gather..

in my estimation greenpeace is a quiet helper of the power elites..

some of their generous doners love the wildlife, but apparently hate humanity..l


:crazy_pilot:

[Akhenaten]

More to the point what is everyone going to do now if, as it appears may possibly be the case based on recent projections concerning solar output, that the earth may be entering a COLD period. Sort of undermines as least part of the premise for global warming/carbon tax eh? Wonder what the hue and cry will be now?!

[HURRITT ENYETO]

More to the point what is everyone going to do now if, as it appears may possibly be the case based on recent projections concerning solar output, that the earth may be entering a COLD period. Sort of undermines as least part of the premise for global warming/carbon tax eh? Wonder what the hue and cry will be now?!

Its no longer called 'Global Warming' Ank, it is now 'Climate Change' :)

P.s Is Green Peace a group of Green Eco Warriors or a multi million pound corporation?
The well intentioned get hijacked once again:shout:

[Akhenaten]

Yup. They don't call them 'Pirates' for nothin'! !! Been hoisting the Jolly Roger and doing this for so many thousands of years that is comes 2nd. nature so to speak...........................hijacking and piracy, IMO. "Can't waste a good crisis, etc." (clarification - I am not referring to GP as 'pirates', but rather those who hijack, etc.

[sjkted]

Well... Rich has always said to me...

GP is part of the corporate machine..but the "pleebs " at the bottom are just working hard like others to make a better world... Who else is climbing aboard artic oil rigs and making a stand for what is maybe the last pristine place on the planet.


He is just finishing the last of the time line (going up before the end of the day)..I mentioned this thread to him...and he will come make a post after.


I agree...that it should not be stickied...especialy without a disclaimer..

and yes maybe its own section is a good idea

I see these types of organizations as being just more controlled resistance. It's another energy funnel to take those types of people who care about the world and want to be involved in activism and lead them on another path to nowhere while indoctrinating them with the new greenwashing movement and how people are causing Global Warming and that we all need to reduce our carbon footprint, thus leading the way for Agenda 21 land/property grabs without eminent domain, the New World Religion based on Neo-Paganism, and a false united people based on a hybrid 1984/Brave New World populace controls such that we can all stop being bad humans and begin to "take care of" our planet/Mother Gaia.

--sjkted

[Scott]

I agree...that it should not be stickied...especialy without a disclaimer..

and yes maybe its own section is a good idea

I could not agree more.
I throw up just a just a little every time i see the name GreenPeace.
The Greenpeace of now is just controlled marketing nothing more, it saddens me to think of the willing participants working on behalf of the corporate elite but then perhaps its a stepping off point for those that have a desire to "Do something".

Scott

[Warponies]

It's how the pyramidal structures always seem to work, the folks with the best intentions end up at at the bottom. One ends up serving an ideal, and they aren't actually serving what we thought we were serving.

Zookiemonster said: Just don't look right to me. Just like Noam Chomsky no longer looks right to me (was once a huge fan of his, until 9/11/2001 happened and he revealed his true colors and funding umbilicus).


Do tell. I'm curious.


Well... Rich has always said to me...

GP is part of the corporate machine..but the "pleebs " at the bottom are just working hard like others to make a better world... Who else is climbing aboard artic oil rigs and making a stand for what is maybe the last pristine place on the planet.


He is just finishing the last of the time line (going up before the end of the day)..I mentioned this thread to him...and he will come make a post after.


I agree...that it should not be stickied...especialy without a disclaimer..

and yes maybe its own section is a good idea

[Richard]

Hi
A lot of valid points above, perhaps renaming the thread and adding a poll can provide us with a better use for the feed, if at all.

I personally have always appreciated the group. Corporate affiliations aside the individuals on the front lines have always had my respect.
Many want change but do little to effect it,
I personally enjoy reading their daily feed and find it provides information that is relevant and inline with this sites direction. GP released information about the high levels of radiation off the coast of Fukushima, they are currently going after the oil company Cairn. For me that's post worthy and if the feed gets voted off nexus i will go to their site to keep up with their missions.

NB, with your permission, i will edit the thread and add a poll to decide on this. cool?