ANONYMOUS: Operation OngoingFraud July 30, 2011

[ZookieMonster]

Here are some intelligent observations by someone who goes by the handle boondock-saint who lays out the case against the frauds LulzSec, Anonymous, and Wikileaks: http://paraspiracy.com/home/?p=6048

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reply posted on 20-6-2011 @ 08:50 PM by boondock-saint

geez, I wish Skeptic had not deleted my thread on LulzSec. It had a wealth of info concerning this topic which I
worked on for over 2 hrs. And I hate to keep posting the same thing in
every Lulz thread that comes along.

I distinctly remember how everybody thought wikileaks was our savior as well. Then the staff abandoned Assange cuz he had been recruited by the Feds after his hack on the Pentagon.

Too bad he couldn?t keep his penis inside his pants or else he may have succeeded.
Or maybe he did it intentionally so the Feds plan would fail.

No more Assange or wikileaks as the savior.

Then came Anonymous who was gonna be our savior. But MI6 and CIA made some glaring bloopers in their videos, not to mention an insider leaked the Feds takeover of 4chan in 2008 where Anon was created.

So now Assange has been ousted by info. Anonymous has been ousted by info.

And now we have LulzSec on the scene as damage control.

I did a thread last week linking LulzSec to the Feds. It was quickly derailed by trolls and Skeptic deleted it. But for a refresher course.

LulzSec was hosted on CloudFlare. CloudFare is related to Operation Honey Pot who tracks and collects data on internet criminals through the FBI. So now there is a direct link between LulzSec and the Feds.

Then they come up with an alternate hacking group called web ninjas who are supposed to oust LulzSec to wit their posted info is fake. It?s just an illusion to make it appear they are opposed to one another when in actuality, they are the same people.

All of these entities:

wikileaks
Assange
Anonymous
LulzSec
CloudFlare
web ninjas

are ALL the same people and have the very same agenda. The very same agenda as George Soros which is Net Neutrality.

Soros is even infiltrating the FCC to get it passed.

Net Neutrality is not a free internet as they make it appear.

Net Neutrality = Internet Patriot Act.
Total control of the internet with backdoors for every network connected.

Meaning they will police you just as much as policing those big corporations you so despise.

Do not say boon did not warn you

So now that LulzSec has been ousted, what new hacking group will emerge to take their place ???

You folks are missing the entire point here. It?s not about your rights or ousting the criminal elements within governments and banks.
It?s all about control.

And those of you who support these fools like LulzSec, wikileaks and Anon are cutting your own throats.

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Also, another interesting article on the Anonymous/Wikileaks psychological operations can be found here:
http://www.thedailybell.com/bellinclude.cfm?ID=2523&order=asc

I would just like to state here that the evidence against the aforementioned false flag hackers cooperatives only makes sense to those with a working brain. Those who have their brains switched off will not benefit by reading the evidence and are thus advised to return to their hibernation chambers and seal themselves inside before a thought rolls in and rocks their slumber.

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[Omniverse]

Then came Anonymous who was gonna be our savior. But MI6 and CIA made some glaring bloopers in their videos, not to mention an insider leaked the Feds takeover of 4chan in 2008 where Anon was created.

So now Assange has been ousted by info. Anonymous has been ousted by info.
So basically you are taking this guys word for it. He doesn't say what the bloopers were, and a random insider leak about 4chan being infiltrated, hardly says everything coming out of it is the feds. It might be true. I am not saying it's not. It's just not convincing to me. I need more than hearsay and assumptions to conclude anonymous is a total psy op from the start(perhaps an experiment on top of other things). It's well within my awareness of what may be happening but I have no delusions that any theory I have is 100% right for sure. You have not provided proof. Just evidence that likely would fall through in court as unsubstantial as I see it.



And now we have LulzSec on the scene as damage control.

I did a thread last week linking LulzSec to the Feds. It was quickly derailed by trolls and Skeptic deleted it. But for a refresher course.

LulzSec was hosted on CloudFlare. CloudFare is related to Operation Honey Pot who tracks and collects data on internet criminals through the FBI. So now there is a direct link between LulzSec and the Feds.

Cloudflare is a public hosting service. http://vexxhost.com/cloudflare_hosting So now everyone who uses CloudFlare is a Fed? Give me a break. And you call anyone who questions this not having a working brain Zook? Pitiful. You may be right in your conclusions Zook, but the points presented in this post are laughable if you think a "working brain" would conclude them proof anonymous is a psy op. Only a biased brain would conclude such things, or one already knowing the truth from other facts. This post provides nothing substantial.



I would just like to state here that the evidence against the aforementioned false flag hackers cooperatives only makes sense to those with a working brain. Those who have their brains switched off will not benefit by reading the evidence and are thus advised to return to their hibernation chambers and seal themselves inside before a thought rolls in and rocks their slumber.

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Yes, Zook. Anyone who doesn't think what you do doesn't have a working brain :rolleyes: You aren't even posting at someone and you are putting people down. lol. You have a real problem with that.

I don't disagree that anonymous is a psy op, I don't agree either. I simply asked for evidence or proof of your claims. You fail again(and can't resist putting people down who don't agree with you straight away in the first post of the thread lol)... Nothing here is remotely conclusive. And you can't even copy paste something without putting people down in your post... lol

[ZookieMonster]

The following article is Webster Tarpley at his best. He slices the dupe Assange and the psy ops Wikileaks into tiny chewable chunks so that even the yipping chihuahuas of delusion and denial - and their wee jawlines - can have a proper meal: http://tarpley.net/2011/01/20/wikileaks-cognitive-infiltration-operation/


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"The limited hangout is not new; it was described in a secret memorandum by Venetian intelligence chief Paolo Sarpi to the Venetian Senate in 1620 as the art of “saying something good about somebody while pretending to be saying something bad.” That is the common denominator of the CIA’s limited hangout operations from Ellsberg to Philip Agee to Assange, with so many other “former” CIA operatives turned “whistleblowers” along the way."
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Read the whole article. It's an eight course meal fit for scientist, philosopher, and lawyer kings. Then understand that ANONYMOUS is a painter's group skilled in the art of doing something good to somebody while pretending to do something bad (e.g. somebody equals the crooked military industrial media complex organizations it purports to hack).

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ps: To those without a discerning mind, you'll forgive me if I question the integrity of ANONYMOUS, a skunk that sprays Chanel No. 5. You see, my brain and nose are having a disagreement - and possibly even a fist fight - over whose organic reality is right.

[Nazirite]

I share your concern about these "Cyber Heroes" Zook. These entitities; Wikileaks, Anonymous and Lulzsec are firmly on my "unconfirmed" list when it comes to being sure who or what is working for the right reason.
One must realise that the majority of players in these groups will be unaware that they are taking part in a controlled opposition. There will be key personalities in these groups who will gently steer and influence the majority. The alphabet agencies play a subtle and mysterious game - which, unfortunately, relies on the naive who only see the black and white.

[ZookieMonster]

I hear ya, Naz.

Compartmentalization is a large part of the game. As an illustration, there are many working in the oppressive institutions of government and oligarchial industry ... that are good people kept in play by having the real agenda kept at bay from their awareness. The rational expectation is that it wouldn't be any different for ANONYMOUS. Whatever genuine hackers are agglutinating with this shady cooperative are doing so because they have been compartmentalized (wittingly and unwittingly) and cannot see the deeper secret agency construction of ANONYMOUS or its bigger game. The rest of the hackers (in my estimation, the majority) are either compromised or confederated with the false flag cause from the beginning.

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[Bryn]

Is this how its done on this site. Instead of answering the original thread anyone who doesn't agree with it can ignore & start a new one in attack mode?

Posted on the original.

Michael.J.Love, Richard Stallman (rms) are just two big guns & unsung hero's (so to speak) who support wiki & Anonymous allegedly. Are folk suggesting that the community as a whole are not whom their appear to be?

Anonymous are in fact a spar off of the Glider community who follow the "hacker philosophy". They are not some greasy haired scriptboy / child who lurks in their bedroom or their mothers basement as the msm would like folk to believe.
This community have been around far longer than the likes of icke & Jones.
The community have done far more for this planet [other] than any of the self promoted [truth] preachers, from the watch on your wrist to the space station.

Every group is infiltrated & a lot of the time it works in the best interests of the group who is being spied upon.


Is there a Hacker Ethic for 90s Hackers?
http://www2.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/hackethic.html

I find this tactic at the very best suspect.

[ZookieMonster]

Is this how its done on this site. Instead of answering the original thread anyone who doesn't agree with it can ignore & start a new one in attack mode?
Posted on the original.
I find this tactic at the very best suspect.

There are more than a few threads about Anonymous. If you feel like a particular thread and its original poster are not here for serious discussion, then I suggest you start your own thread about Anonymous. I believe my arguments have a better chance of being heard in a thread originated by someone respectful of the fraud (in this case, myself) ... than in a thread created by someone who has no critical views to offer. I challenge you to find anything in the original post of that other thread that is more than the act of SPAMMING this forum with links. No critical analysis; not even an excerpt of someone else's critical analysis. Nothing to chew on but SPAMMED links. Sorry if you felt offended by my need to counter the fraud and the appeal for supporting that fraud ... by starting another thread drawing attention to the fraud. The first post of my thread actually does present a compelling argument against ANONYMOUS (although not my own).

The third post above points to Webster Tarpley's masterful expose of the fraud that is Wikileaks (and by extension ANONYMOUS):
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?4671-ANONYMOUS-Operation-OngoingFraud-July-30-2011&p=32236&viewfull=1#post32236

Tarpley actually lays out why ANONYMOUS ... through Wikileaks and the 17th century words of Venetian intelligence chief Paolo Sarpi ... is a false flag cooperative in the duty of the establishment. Your post, by contrast makes the tenuous connection from ANONYMOUS ... to GLIDER ... without any proof whatsoever. I can only surmise that ye, who demands absolute airtight eyewitness proof of the alleged ANONYMOUS fraud, believes you are entitled to a double standard where we must accept your spurious linkage from ANONYMOUS to GLIDER on the grounds that you have personally stated so.

With all due respect, Bryn ... at best, your post and contained implied argument is a fallacious appeal to authority (e.g. the authority of GLIDER). At least, in my appeal to Tarpley, the appeal was made to Tarpley's arguments and not to the man's authority.

Thank you for your concern that too many threads on ANONYMOUS will dilute the forum, but this thread will stay apart (as it should) from Krystic's threads ... because there are not enough critical threads about ANONYMOUS; and there's not enough critical analysis by Krystic (and his menagerie of ditto-heads) to warrant my wasting energy on any thread that promotes the fraud that is ANONYMOUS.


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bryn
Is this how its done on this site. Instead of answering the original thread anyone who doesn't agree with it can ignore & start a new one in attack mode?

Posted on the original.

what's the "original"?

although "anonymous" intitiative is pretty see through, it is crying our for careful analysis...thanks for for taking the time zook....

the watchers are being watched by the watched, their ancient ways won't do any more... l

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[Bryn]

ZookieMonster
Hi, are you suggesting that the glider community are frauds?

Please look at the quote in my last comment.


lightblue Hi
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showthread.php?4649-ANONYMOUS-Operation-onslaught-30-july

[Chicodoodoo]

One must realise that the majority of players in these groups will be unaware that they are taking part in a controlled opposition. There will be key personalities in these groups who will gently steer and influence the majority. The alphabet agencies play a subtle and mysterious game - which, unfortunately, relies on the naive who only see the black and white.

Dang, this is a succinct analysis! This is exactly what is going on at Atticus1.org. This is also what makes a cult succeed. Nicely stated, Naz.

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bryn
lightblue Hi
http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showt...laught-30-july

thanks, but there have been other threads on the same topic...and not just on this topic - many are duplicated, replicated etc many times over...i am not bothered ..what matters more is the way you spin it, in this instance, sub-title it...i am in agreement with this one, as opposed to the one you are quoting...thanks for the effort all the same...:wink: l


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[ZookieMonster]

ZookieMonster
Hi, are you suggesting that the glider community are frauds?

Please look at the quote in my last comment.

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Not at all, Bryn. I'm trying to limit the discussion to the relevant areas. I make neither positive nor negative comment about GLIDER. GLIDER does not interest me. ANONYMOUS does. I'm then suggesting that any rational defense of ANONYMOUS must be limited to what ANONYMOUS is doing, not what GLIDER has done. Alluding to the deeds of GLIDER as a defense for ANONYMOUS ... is an argument by fallacy of appeal to authority.

My comments have nothing to do with the veracity of GLIDER.

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