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kesom
21st March 2011, 14:17
to understand subliminal messaging you must first understand it for what it is,basically waking hypnotic suggestion is, Suggestions that are given to a person in a certain manner while in a normal state of consciousness that achieve a hypnotic effect without the use of the relaxed state !

The definition of hypnosis : "The bypass of the critical factor of the conscious mind followed by selective acceptable suggestion"

so what is the critical factor,its the part of you conscious mind that analyses the information your receiving and decides whether its worth listening to so to say,like if your told its safe to jump from the roof of a building its your critical factor that goes no way man if you do that your screwed,it will also protect you from things too disturbing to remember that may happen to you in your life and completely block them out of your memory and a personal thought I've always had is that its what stops us from remembering our past lives as well and why hypnosis works so well with past life regression

an example of how much an effect hypnotism and suggestions can have


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xa4daWRb4g

our sub conscious does not feel pain

our sub conscious minds are like a brand new pc straight out of the box with no software installed when were born and were slowly programmed for the rest of our days
and that's why we feel pain,we were told to
you can see the hypnotist does not use what are called painted words ie. words that have a feeling associated with them like pain,you'll notice he uses the words no discomfort (this is actually the suggestion) and so on because once he has him hypnotized the critical factor has been bypassed and suggestions are been freely accepted by the sub conscious mind and what the sub conscious mind believes happens and never doubt that very important fact,once the sub consious is givin a suggestion it follows it until it is replaced by another suggestion

now that you've got that does it remind you of your friendly little box that you sit infront of relaxed while your bombarded with painted words and suggestions,distraction techniques,their are so many ways to give suggestions the more you practice it and look into it you realize that were all just brainwashed sheep

here's a video i found on subliminal suggestions


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng6hQfGzQig

i've also seen websites that will have pics of scantily clad models with some flashing writing normally in red on the page,beware of this technique too,its a distraction technique,the conscious mind and therefor the critical factor is distracted by the model leaving the sub conscious wide open to the flashing message that you probably never even realize you've just read....

peace K :)

Swami
21st March 2011, 16:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWNMpAXLTg

Northern Boy
22nd March 2011, 00:15
Interesting Swami as i watched the video and listened i and developed a picture in my mind before the story was read to the class the picture i got was of a big tree . I was surprised at the first sentence in the story

Icecold
22nd March 2011, 12:09
Subliminal Advertising - Even experts get conned!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyQjr1YL0zg

Torz
3rd April 2011, 17:59
HOw come right, even though I am in the UK and pay a stupid amount of money each year to watch TV, even though I don't... I am blocked from watching these videos as they are blocked because I am not in the right country!!!...
That is just backwards I am in the UK!!!

Icecold
9th April 2011, 09:46
HOw come right, even though I am in the UK and pay a stupid amount of money each year to watch TV, even though I don't... I am blocked from watching these videos as they are blocked because I am not in the right country!!!...
That is just backwards I am in the UK!!!

The same thing happens to me in Australia. Sheeeesh.

kesom
13th April 2011, 10:55
The same thing happens to me in Australia. Sheeeesh.

think its just that link to that video is broken,it happens if you got direct to youtube and search for it that way :(

i like derren brown,he most definately knows his stuff but to me he's taken a very serious subject and turned it into stage show imo

hypnotism was banned by the RC church as the devils work and was only ever allowed into the main stream in the guise of entertainment

if it was ever tried to be used in a professional manner it was just laughed at and ridiculed cause of the programming the population had already received by the old way of programming the masses ie. the pulpit along with the suggestion that it was "the devils work" a usual religious tactict of fear mongering

the word mesmerize comes from the man that discovered hypnotism,franz mesmer,just another example of how they programmed us not to take it seriously,we all know the definition to mesmerize someone is to confuse them,well now we know its quite the opposite

so thats why today we've all got the impression that hypnotism is just useful for amusement cause they dont want us to realise that its probably the most useful tool we have for physical and spiritual healing and they've portrayed it as hocus pocus to us all

back in WWI the priests in the trenches working as medics went against all their doctrine and taught each other hypnotism to use as pain relief for the soldiers having amputations done and it saved a lot of lives

so when i see derren brown usin his talents the way he does it just stinks of the old programming,he doesnt actually show anyone how to do any of the stuff when he could be showing people how to do self hypnosis and make them capable of throwing off all the programming/behavior patterns and taking full control of their lives but he's not he's putting it across like any other stage show and thats what i dont like about him

peace K :)