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    Memory Hole: Socialist Failures by Gary North via LewRockwell.com

    Memory Hole: Socialist Failures
    by Gary North via LewRockwell.com
    http://lewrockwell.com/north/north1141.html
    What is the longest-running socialist experiment? What has its success been?

    If someone asked you to defend the idea that socialism has failed, what would you offer as your example?

    Where did modern socialism begin?

    In America.

    That's right: in the land of the free and the home of the braves. On Indian reservations.

    They were invented to control adult warriors. They had as a goal to keep the native population in poverty and impotent.

    Did the system work? You bet it did.

    Has the experiment been a failure? On the contrary, it has been a success.

    When was the last time you heard of a successful Indian uprising?

    Are the people poor? The poorest in America.

    Are they on the dole? Of course.

    Last year, the U. S. Department of Agriculture allocated $21 million to provide subsidized electricity to residents on the reservations whose homes are the most distant from jobs and opportunities. You can read about this here. This will keep them poor. Tribal power means tribal impotence.

    The tribes are dependent. They will stay dependent. That was what the program was designed to achieve.

    For some reason, textbooks do not offer a page or two on the corruption, the bureaucratization, and the multi-generation poverty created by tribal-run socialism. Here we have a series of government-run social laboratories. How successful have they been? Where are reservations that have systematically brought people out of poverty?

    The next one will be the first.

    WORKERS' PARADISES

    The Soviet Union lasted as a socialist worker's paradise from 1917 until 1991. As a direct result of that experiment, at least 30 million Russians died. It may have been twice that. China's experiment was shorter: 1949 to 1978. Perhaps 60 million Chinese died.

    The system failed to deliver the promised goods. I can think of no topic more suitable for a class in economics than a discussion of the failure of socialism. The same is true of a course in modern world history. A course in political science should cover this failure in detail.

    They don't, of course. They do not begin with the fundamental challenge to socialist economic theory, Ludwig von Mises' 1920 essay, Economic Calculation in the Socialist Commonwealth. Why not? Because most social scientists, economists, and historians have never heard of it. Among people over age 50, the few who did hear of it heard about it from some pro-socialist or Keynesian advocate, who wrote what he had been told in graduate school in the 1960s, namely, that the article was totally refuted by Oskar Lange in 1936.

    They are never told that when Lange, a Communist, returned to Poland in 1947 to serve in several high-level posts, the Communist government did not invite him to implement his grand theory of "market socialism." No other socialist nation ever did.

    For 50 years, the textbooks, if they mentioned Mises at all, said only that Mises had been totally refuted by Lange. The Establishment academics dropped Mises down Orwell's memory hole.

    On September 10, 1990, multimillionaire socialist author-economist Robert Heilbroner published an article in the New Yorker. It was titled "After Communism." The USSR was visibly collapsing. In it, he recounted the story of the refutation of Mises. In graduate school, he and his peers were taught that Lange had refuted Mises. Then he announced: "Mises was right." Yet in his best-selling textbook on the history of economic thought, The Worldly Philosophers, he never referred to Mises.

    THE VISIBLE FAILURES

    The universal failure of twentieth-century socialism began from the opening months of Lenin's takeover of Russia. Output declined sharply. He inaugurated a marginally capitalist reform in 1920; the New Economic Policy. That saved the regime from collapse. The NEP was abolished by Stalin.

    Decade after decade, Stalin murdered people. The minimal estimate is 20 million. This was denied by virtually the entire intelligentsia of the West. Only in 1968 did Robert Conquest publish his monumental book, The Great Terror. His estimate today: closer to 30 million. The book was pilloried. Wikipedia's entry on the book is accurate.

    Published during the Vietnam War and during an upsurge of revolutionary Marxist sentiment in Western universities and intellectual circles (see The Sixties), The Great Terror received a hostile reception.

    Hostility to Conquest's account of the purges was heightened by various factors. The first was that he refused to accept the assertion made by Nikita Khrushchev, and supported by many Western leftists, that Stalin and his purges were an aberration from the ideals of the Revolution and were contrary to the principles of Leninism. Conquest argued that Stalinism was a natural consequence of the system established by Lenin, although he conceded that the personal character traits of Stalin had brought about the particular horrors of the late 1930s. Neal Ascherson noted: "Everyone by then could agree that Stalin was a very wicked man and a very evil one, but we still wanted to believe in Lenin; and Conquest said that Lenin was just as bad and that Stalin was simply carrying out Lenin's programme."

    The second factor (1918) was Conquest's sharp criticism of Western intellectuals for what he saw as their blindness towards the realities of the Soviet Union, both in the 1930s and, in some cases, even in the 1960s. Figures such as Beatrice and Sidney Webb, George Bernard Shaw, Jean-Paul Sartre, Walter Duranty, Sir Bernard Pares, Harold Laski, D. N. Pritt, Theodore Dreiser and Romain Rolland were accused of being dupes of Stalin and apologists for his regime for various comments they had made denying, excusing, or justifying various aspects of the purges.

    The Left still hates the book, still attempts to say that he exaggerated the figures.

    Then came The Black Book of Communism (1999) which puts the minimum estimate of citizens executed by Communists at 85 million, with 100 million or more likely. The book was published by Harvard University Press, so it could not be dismissed as a Right-wing fat tract.

    The Left tries to ignore it.

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    Re: Memory Hole: Socialist Failures by Gary North via LewRockwell.com

    The only problem is that when one of those on the dole underclass tries to break the mold there are many social hurdles that stop them from making the jump. For example, the less thoughtful in our culture that despise the underclass undermine any attempt by the target at developing a sense of 'dignity' or 'self-worth'. E.G. Those damn drunken indians, those damn worthless wetbacks, those damn victim-toting blacks, those damn whatever. The idiots in our culture are perpetuating their own complaints by not simply recognizing that all humans are worthy of dignity by virtue of their existence. Any attitude short of that, is akin to spiritual murder. The bottom line is not one of 'socialism', actually in our society and most of the western world the proper term is 'social welfare' failure but the attitude of those that b*tch the most about it.

    And although that is the social focus of the ignorants, the more fundamental and overarching issue addressed by the social welfare state is one of providing a semblance of 'social dignity' to those that are simply not capable of providing it for themselves and the numbers are huge. After all, consider that half of the population in the United States has an I.Q. that is below average. Explain to me how an idiot provides for themself in a world created by Mitt Romney?
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    Re: Memory Hole: Socialist Failures by Gary North via LewRockwell.com

    funny thing, but, the consultants to the reserves,
    are driving around in cadillac esplandes or, huge trucks with tubeless tires,
    with their huge pot bellies hanging over their jean waistbands, and, are making well over $100,000 / per year ?
    some of these chiefs of big reserves, are also making big money,
    yet the people don't have 'clean water'
    and, in a lot of cases, no health care, and, no electric,
    in fact, many reserve indians in the USA, live worse than 3rd world countries
    -and, many of them, now have 'resident' gangs


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    Re: Memory Hole: Socialist Failures by Gary North via LewRockwell.com

    Quote Originally Posted by alienHunter View Post
    that all humans are worthy of dignity by virtue of their existence
    Dignity is not an external measure. It cannot be given. It can only be maintained by person in question.

    When other person makes one "dignified" beyond what one feels, it is called "patronizing". On the other hand, when one builds one's worth not on a base of internal value-system, but external one, one is not building dignity, one is building ego. It is ego that feeds on external "confirmation", and it is not surprising that societies that are fixated on social welfare are also most egomaniacal out there.

    If you give someone something he has never earned nor has a even a capability to earn - which is what all "social welfare" is about- you actually kill his spirit. You take away reason to be better, faster, cleverer, stronger, and most of all, responsible. All is left is place at state's through, reaping benefits from ones station - not one's actions - which is, again, pure ego.

    Sometimes, idiots just need to die-off. If you award them, then you punish all those that struggle and bleed to get their lives better- and by doing that you create society where failure is a norm, and success is frowned upon. Take all those people in so-called 3rd world, that make living - and often-thrive, in conditions unacceptable to those so-called "poor" in the U.S. of A. or other "first world" countries... where poverty line is high above high class of those other countries. Compare how resourceful, clever and full of courage are people that live without all the social welfare safety net in comparison to obese narrowly-specialized first-worlders. Take what your "illegal immigrants" risk to get a job rejected by those "legal inhabitants", too fat and too lazy to pick up coins from the pavement, so to speak.

    At the extreme end, you will have a society so concerned about shielding reckless idiots from consequences of their actions, that is actually make life impossible for those that are neither. Which is precisely where our world civilization is.

    Ps. Last time I checked, Romney was a national-socialist. Just as Obomber. From economic standpoint there is zero difference between the two.

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    Re: Memory Hole: Socialist Failures by Gary North via LewRockwell.com

    As the saying goes...People are like dogs, some you can beat into submission, others just get meaner. Patronizing a person's internal desire to be better is just another beating. It is in the hands of others and children are the most vulnerable. The seeds of destruction are planted early. If you don't agree with my analogy concerning Romney, let's try Rush Limbaugh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Dignity is not an external measure. It cannot be given. It can only be maintained by person in question.

    When other person makes one "dignified" beyond what one feels, it is called "patronizing". On the other hand, when one builds one's worth not on a base of internal value-system, but external one, one is not building dignity, one is building ego. It is ego that feeds on external "confirmation", and it is not surprising that societies that are fixated on social welfare are also most egomaniacal out there.

    If you give someone something he has never earned nor has a even a capability to earn - which is what all "social welfare" is about- you actually kill his spirit. You take away reason to be better, faster, cleverer, stronger, and most of all, responsible. All is left is place at state's through, reaping benefits from ones station - not one's actions - which is, again, pure ego.

    Sometimes, idiots just need to die-off. If you award them, then you punish all those that struggle and bleed to get their lives better- and by doing that you create society where failure is a norm, and success is frowned upon. Take all those people in so-called 3rd world, that make living - and often-thrive, in conditions unacceptable to those so-called "poor" in the U.S. of A. or other "first world" countries... where poverty line is high above high class of those other countries. Compare how resourceful, clever and full of courage are people that live without all the social welfare safety net in comparison to obese narrowly-specialized first-worlders. Take what your "illegal immigrants" risk to get a job rejected by those "legal inhabitants", too fat and too lazy to pick up coins from the pavement, so to speak.

    At the extreme end, you will have a society so concerned about shielding reckless idiots from consequences of their actions, that is actually make life impossible for those that are neither. Which is precisely where our world civilization is.

    Ps. Last time I checked, Romney was a national-socialist. Just as Obomber. From economic standpoint there is zero difference between the two.



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    Re: Memory Hole: Socialist Failures by Gary North via LewRockwell.com

    Quote Originally Posted by alienHunter View Post
    analogy concerning Romney, let's try Rush Limbaugh.
    Which is another National Socialist.

    You need to adjust your playbook here, friend, as your map sucks.

    Funny with dog saying. This is precisely how Elite (which designed the welfare system, and promoted it via usual "usefull idiots" aka inteligentsia) see people. Dogs in human skin. Untermenshen, to be conditioned, exploited and dumped. Things not men.
    This is why they kill the spirit of the man, the drive to be a better by providing false security, that is just another cage, one that is very hard to escape.

    People on welfare usually stay there. You have whole neighbourhoods that never knew anything else. And that is by design.

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    Re: Memory Hole: Socialist Failures by Gary North via LewRockwell.com

    ok, negativity such as yours is nearly impossible to reason through...and i'm not in the battering mood.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post
    Which is another National Socialist.

    You need to adjust your playbook here, friend, as your map sucks.

    Funny with dog saying. This is precisely how Elite (which designed the welfare system, and promoted it via usual "usefull idiots" aka inteligentsia) see people. Dogs in human skin. Untermenshen, to be conditioned, exploited and dumped. Things not men.
    This is why they kill the spirit of the man, the drive to be a better by providing false security, that is just another cage, one that is very hard to escape.

    People on welfare usually stay there. You have whole neighbourhoods that never knew anything else. And that is by design.



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