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    Taking the step for communication

    Hi guys new to the site just wanted to say hi to everybody. What i was thinking was on the subject of making contact and searching for answers to our existence among many other questions.
    Basically in my head this all works out but just wanted to share my thoughts, hear different opinions etc.\
    There is a lot of people within this world that are curious and have an underlying desire to find out who we are, where we came from, who was here before us, how we supposedly "evolved", whats beyond earth and the boundaries we know of, answers that obviously arent gonna be freely given by the powers that be.
    It really seems to me that its up to us as the general public to do this for our selves, if we started our own foundation or group that financed our own equipment, with the amount of people searching for answers in this world we would have more money than nasa ever would to search for answers.
    This group would share the truth and make sure nothing is hidden, something that seems to be the case from the people that have currently have this power and position. If an independant private rocket can be launched now why cant another private rocket be made and launched, we will get our own rover on the moon and see if there really is armstrongs camera there and the 3 moon rovers as well as the flag and everything else they claim.
    With the amount of technology we have at our fingertips i feel like they arent doing enough to share the information they are obtaining, it seems like they are going backwards with their information instead of forwards.
    I hope some people will agree with my thoughts as i feel its going to be up to the curious average everyday person to do this, they dont want us to do anything special like this, they want us to just get up , go to work , come home go to sleep, not question who we really are and whats beyond, i think its time to do something about it
    Regards Jeremy.


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Quote Originally Posted by jezza355 View Post
    Hi guys new to the site just wanted to say hi to everybody. What i was thinking was on the subject of making contact and searching for answers to our existence among many other questions.
    Basically in my head this all works out but just wanted to share my thoughts, hear different opinions etc.\
    There is a lot of people within this world that are curious and have an underlying desire to find out who we are, where we came from, who was here before us, how we supposedly "evolved", whats beyond earth and the boundaries we know of, answers that obviously arent gonna be freely given by the powers that be.
    It really seems to me that its up to us as the general public to do this for our selves, if we started our own foundation or group that financed our own equipment, with the amount of people searching for answers in this world we would have more money than nasa ever would to search for answers.
    This group would share the truth and make sure nothing is hidden, something that seems to be the case from the people that have currently have this power and position. If an independant private rocket can be launched now why cant another private rocket be made and launched, we will get our own rover on the moon and see if there really is armstrongs camera there and the 3 moon rovers as well as the flag and everything else they claim.
    With the amount of technology we have at our fingertips i feel like they arent doing enough to share the information they are obtaining, it seems like they are going backwards with their information instead of forwards.
    I hope some people will agree with my thoughts as i feel its going to be up to the curious average everyday person to do this, they dont want us to do anything special like this, they want us to just get up , go to work , come home go to sleep, not question who we really are and whats beyond, i think its time to do something about it
    Regards Jeremy.
    Hello jezza !

    Seems like you come to the right place ,
    - one of many like it, with its very own
    collective flavour, added to by every
    new member, and by everyone active ....

    Indeed we need many different initiatives
    and approaches on all fields of advanced
    technologies. Energy, propulsion-systems
    - and much more ...

    On communication:
    Please allow me a small comment on writing posts.
    The way you do it in the above quoted, makes it
    harder to read and grasp, the different layers of it..
    The page is packed full of text, so the advice is
    to make it into shorter paragraphs and colums.

    I took the liberty of editing you post and
    present it here, as an example, here quoted :

    - Hi guys
    new to the site just wanted to say hi to everybody.

    What i was thinking was on the subject of making contact and
    searching for answers to our existence among many other questions.

    Basically in my head this all works out but just wanted to share my thoughts,
    hear different opinions etc.\
    There is a lot of people within this world that are curious and have an underlying
    desire to find out who we are, where we came from, who was here before us,
    how we supposedly "evolved", whats beyond earth and the boundaries we know of,
    answers that obviously arent gonna be freely given by the powers that be.

    It really seems to me that its up to us as the general public to do this for our selves,
    if we started our own foundation or group that financed our own equipment, with the
    amount of people searching for answers in this world we would have more money
    than nasa ever would to search for answers.

    This group would share the truth and make sure nothing is hidden, something that seems
    to be the case from the people that have currently have this power and position.
    If an independant private rocket can be launched now why cant another private rocket be made
    - and launched, we will get our own rover on the moon and see if there really is armstrongs camera there
    and the 3 moon rovers as well as the flag and everything else they claim.

    With the amount of technology we have at our fingertips i feel like they arent doing enough to share
    the information they are obtaining, it seems like they are going backwards with their information instead of forwards.

    I hope some people will agree with my thoughts as i feel its going to be up to the curious average everyday person to do this,
    they dont want us to do anything special like this, they want us to just get up , go to work , come home go to sleep,
    not question who we really are and whats beyond, i think its time to do something about it

    Regards Jeremy.
    - Be well, Jeremy.

    Thank you for sharing .



    nm

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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Hi Jeremy, Welcome!!


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    well I certainly think that the people united can accomplish just about anything

    it is getting the people to unite enough that seems to be the problem

    I like the way you think and hope for the best for sure

    and welcome aboard


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Thanks for the welcome and advice.

    Glad i found this site , not to many people in my circle of friends are interested in this subject so it makes it hard to talk about.

    Im quite keen on trying to get the message out for people to take the next step towards doing something for ourselves, bypassing who has the current
    power to do the research and find out whats really out there.

    I realise its not an easy task but if we want to know who we are its our only option.
    Any ideas or thoughts on how we can achieve this please share.
    Regards, jeremy.


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Welcome Jeremy,

    Tough questions for your first post, but good questions I will say You are astute in knowing they do have many more answers than the public is given and that we need to go after these answers and solutions ourselves. Look forward to your posts


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    If anyone is interested in taking this a step further add me as a friend and shoot me a mesage, definately cant do this on my own, we need to stop thinking and just do it.


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Yea ! that's so spot on.

    Trouble IS, as I see it right now. There's so much integration of agendas going on that no one you or I know can be trusted to head up such a brilliant idea.

    If I'm wrong about that, let me know who ?

    I'd love what you are suggesting to really happen. Oh so much I would !

    I've got to the point, now, that I really think we are totally swamped in bollocks from every direction. I don't trust anyone's agenda any more.

    I've seen and lived through too much to hold out my faith in anyone who talks the talk.

    It's all broken up into petty little territorial puff fights of nothingness, and I'm sick of it.

    Please don't lose faith. I'm just not really the right guy to fill you with it right now. I'm battered and weary from stupid whambam erism.

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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Quote Originally Posted by norman View Post
    Yea ! that's so spot on.

    Trouble IS, as I see it right now. There's so much integration of agendas going on that no one you or I know can be trusted to head up such a brilliant idea.

    If I'm wrong about that, let me know who ?

    I'd love what you are suggesting to really happen. Oh so much I would !

    I've got to the point, now, that I really think we are totally swamped in bollocks from every direction. I don't trust anyone's agenda any more.

    I've seen and lived through too much to hold out my faith in anyone who talks the talk.

    It's all broken up into petty little territorial puff fights of nothingness, and I'm sick of it.

    Please don't lose faith. I'm just not really the right guy to fill you with it right now. I'm battered and weary from stupid whambam erism.
    I completely agree with what youre saying, everyone has different opinions, beleifs and views on this subject.
    My main goal is to unite people with the common interest and step into something thats never been done before by the average person, it has to be regulated so we can agree on the cause and purpose of such a group, and head into the direction that we need to be heading.
    Theres so many different "missions" if you would call them in which we could set up and execute
    Moon landing for real evidence that could be shared live, unedited and to prove weve been there before, not to mention what its really made from and why its hollow.
    Sending a sattelite to mars and a rover to take hi res pics with no holds barred
    Set up communication systems like SETI has done, but share every bit of info with the public, maybe have it live streaming on a website so listeners could log in and listen.
    I dont believe SETI has only found a miniscule amount of noise out there.
    I am in no way shape or form affiliated with any organisation that is looking to prove or dissprove any information at this time nor have i ever been.
    Im just an extremely curious and interested person searching for answers of our existence and who we really are.
    We are made feel like we cant do something like this for ourselves, we can achieve anything in numbers.
    If nasa can do what they are currently doing why cant somebody else, there is so much more to humans than we know of (as Yet), we just need to piece together the puzzle
    to find our answers.
    Imagine the possibilities if we all band together, share our ideas and use knowledge to make this happen, I also wonder what other things could come from this, what if we do find life on other planets and galaxies out there, make contact and they help us to evolve further for the better, maybe cures for cancer, aids, autism, the list goes on.


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Hi Jezza,

    Personally I don't think we can truly find the answers for humankind "out there" . The Global Controllers have had us doing this for eons in order to not own and recognize our own abilities to manage earth in a fair and just manner. Until we achieve this monumental goal and earth and her inhabitants become more spiritual versus material I don't think any greater enlightened beings will want much to do with us and our warring nature


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Hello jezza355, welcome.

    Just to add my .02?

    Our 5 senses compels us to look outside of ourselves. Indeed there is much to sense! Technology is wonderful and addictive because it allows us to see more of what is out there. I suspect the voyage for a pilgrim on that journey of discovery is unlimited! We are at the heart of that journey. The more the seeker seeks the more he will find? until the seeker asks the question, ?Who is the creator of that which I once sought after and now perceive?? Does the mere act of looking for something create it? Who is the one who plants the thought to look? Many mysteries in this slow 3D world.

    More technology in my opinion creates more rabbit holes and worm holes to unlimited wonders. For the pilgrim, they are food for the soul?s adventure, and the sense of discovery is an elixir of great excitement. I think however that every discovery ?out there? is about a discovery of ourselves.

    Thus for me, to understand where I came from and where I am going, means to seek within. That journey of self discovery far surpasses any excitement of discovery of people, places, things, times or events that I have ever had? and I am a geophysicist trained to treasure hunt on this planet.

    We may indeed pool all our resources together to develop technologies that will find many wonders and mysteries? indeed uncover more technology that will help us to communicate with others ?out there?. Hasn?t that been done already? Which one among us will want to keep that information proprietary? To start a business? To have a competitive advantage over others in commerce or in influence? To move the world in the direction of one?s own dreams (as benevolent as it may be). It always starts out in fun and games until someone?s eye gets poked. Lol

    Anyway? hope you get my drift. It is not to undermine your desire of knowing more? just wanted to point out potential pitfalls. Nothing really is stopping you or anyone from starting a foundation or group for such endeavors.

    Good luck and fruitful journeys!


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Thankyou for the great replys, i know this isnt going to be an easy task to accomplish thats for sure.
    I know that there is already organisations out there but i feel they are being severely regulated with what they release as public information compared to what they are actually
    finding, at their core who knows who really runs them.
    I may be wrong or i could possibly be right, SETI for example have really found nothing to disclose to the public for the time theyve been around, But yet weve got crop circles popping up all over the world, some with hidden messages which have been deciphered , some which are just amazing shapes , but they must contain a message of importance.
    Is this their way of saying were trying to communicate through the places that are searching for us but theyre not sharing the information with the public, so theyre doing it so the whole world can see?
    I am also a very spiritual person, i believe in god and hes the creator.
    Even if we were created by an advanced alien race , who created them?
    I have so many questions, I know im young and that alot of members here on this forum have been where i am now and realised that its a struggle that may not be accomplished, but what drove the founders of nasa to form a group and send a rocket to the moon (if they did in 69) , were they staring at the moon and just said lets go there , or were they given information about something up there?
    With advancements in technology getting to the moon and exploring it should be much easier now than it was in 1969, so why arent they up there investigating?
    They could have sent up a drill to assemble on the moon and be drilling core samples to see if it is hollow at a certain depth, what its compiled of in its different layers, and maybe find out why it is hollow and possibly artificially made.
    To some this may be of no interest to find out this information, i realise not everybody has my opinion or views and i completely respect that
    For me its like a jigsaw puzzle, all the pieces are there just waiting to be put together.


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Welcome Jezza,

    Hope you will be happy here and find your own personal growth within all the topics and members available. We are all at different stages of "unfoldment" so I try to remember that a lot!

    All the best,
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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    My contribution:
    Be nice and my goal is accomplished.


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Quote Originally Posted by alienHunter View Post
    My contribution:
    Be nice and my goal is accomplished.
    You are not reaver, sorry for the confusion.

    (still miss him)

    Be nice !?!

    wtf


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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    Jeremy,
    Great post.
    I could be mistaken, but could have sworn I read or saw an interview (with someone from SETI) that stated if SETI did hear or find an intelligent communication, they would NOT make this information public. They would turn the information over to the government and let them decide what step to take next. Kind of pointless if you ask me....
    The problem I see is this: Government raids, Federal govt shutdowns, etc. Look at all these sceintists that have stumbled onto free energy sources only to be arrested, have their equipment confiscated, etc. IT would be very difficult to get an organziation of this size off the ground without TPTB taking notice.....but I'm game to try....

    Edit: From one Jeremey to another Jeremy


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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeVapor View Post
    Jeremy,
    Great post.
    I could be mistaken, but could have sworn I read or saw an interview (with someone from SETI) that stated if SETI did hear or find an intelligent communication, they would NOT make this information public. They would turn the information over to the government and let them decide what step to take next. Kind of pointless if you ask me....
    The problem I see is this: Government raids, Federal govt shutdowns, etc. Look at all these sceintists that have stumbled onto free energy sources only to be arrested, have their equipment confiscated, etc. IT would be very difficult to get an organziation of this size off the ground without TPTB taking notice.....but I'm game to try....

    Edit: From one Jeremey to another Jeremy
    Hey jeremey, Cheers for the reply mate.
    I have seen a similar interview about SETI where all findings are regulated as to what is actually released to the public. Most likely the condition imposed on them to be able to continue running, so really is no help to us.
    Im dead set keen in starting something and if youre keen thats great.
    If there is enough of us that band together and support it what can they do? I dont think they would arrest everyone if we all contribute.
    I May be playing with fire but im ready to take it on, it may sound selfish but i would like answers within my lifetime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sandy View Post
    Hi Jezza,

    Personally I don't think we can truly find the answers for humankind "out there" . The Global Controllers have had us doing this for eons in order to not own and recognize our own abilities to manage earth in a fair and just manner. Until we achieve this monumental goal and earth and her inhabitants become more spiritual versus material I don't think any greater enlightened beings will want much to do with us and our warring nature
    - unless !
    that reminds the great is
    of what is, or used to be ?

    be (a) well

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    Re: Taking the step for communication

    if anyone is seriously interested in becoming a part of this let me know, everybody will play an important part in getting this off the ground.

    Also if you know of anybody that would be interested in becoming a part of this that could help with the technical side of things the door is open.
    PM me if interested and i will give the info needed.
    Thanks people


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