The Solar system on 21.12.2012.

[Gardener]

Santos Bonacci explains what is happening in our solar system on 21.12.2012
This newly uploaded video brings into perspective the events in our physical universe on this years winter solstice. As the ecliptic of the sun's journey though the constellations, crosses the plane of the milky way at a 60 degrees angle, and the precession of the equinoxes technically moves into aquarious a fixed sign.
This is the first of a two part lecture, the second part hasn't been uploaded yet as far as I can see.
I resonate with all Santos' astrotheology work it just makes so much sense.


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[Alan]

Great Video, can hardly wait for part 2.

[alienHunter]

It is all about 'symbols'. He mentions Velikovsky who/m (I always hated grammar) is quite the interesting scientist. The spiritual essence of the Universe is everywhere and inescapable.

Santos Bonacci explains what is happening in our solar system on 21.12.2012
This newly uploaded video brings into perspective the events in our physical universe on this years winter solstice. As the ecliptic of the sun's journey though the constellations, crosses the plane of the milky way at a 60 degrees angle, and the precession of the equinoxes technically moves into aquarious a fixed sign.
This is the first of a two part lecture, the second part hasn't been uploaded yet as far as I can see.
I resonate with all Santos' astrotheology work it just makes so much sense.

[Dex]

I'm glad I watched this. I got very excited about what he is showing. Then I went to the Danny Wilton video he references and I just fail to see the stuff he sees in the Orion nebula. Did anyone else see it? I don't understand how he was modifying the image to show the pyramid, etc. As one of the YouTube commenters said: you can see anything in an image like that if you stare at it long enough.

Sorry to be so cynical, but I'm wondering if some of these observations are the result of wanting very badly for things to make some "sense" in the universe. That said, I do think that this guy is revealing/applying ancient wisdom and it is worth watching for that reason. However, even if this is a system of hidden knowledge, is it truth or created out of the human desire to find spiritual meaning in the mechanics of the universe?

[alienHunter]

Science is trying to tell us what the mystics have always intuited...that there is spiritual meaning in the mechanics of the universe. As yet, I don't think we've truly discovered what the meaning is telling us.

I'm glad I watched this. I got very excited about what he is showing. Then I went to the Danny Wilton video he references and I just fail to see the stuff he sees in the Orion nebula. Did anyone else see it? I don't understand how he was modifying the image to show the pyramid, etc. As one of the YouTube commenters said: you can see anything in an image like that if you stare at it long enough.

Sorry to be so cynical, but I'm wondering if some of these observations are the result of wanting very badly for things to make some "sense" in the universe. That said, I do think that this guy is revealing/applying ancient wisdom and it is worth watching for that reason. However, even if this is a system of hidden knowledge, is it truth or created out of the human desire to find spiritual meaning in the mechanics of the universe?

[Dex]

Science is trying to tell us what the mystics have always intuited...that there is spiritual meaning in the mechanics of the universe. As yet, I don't think we've truly discovered what the meaning is telling us.

Good point. If I'm following you, you are saying that while there appears to be meaning in it, we may not know what it is. And there is where the wishful thinking comes in, IMHO. Perhaps to make it fit our pre-existing frames (the Bible, astrology, etc).

Did you watch this video that Bonacci bases much of his claims on?



If so, can you (or anyone) explain what Wilton is doing to the the image to reveal the Star of David? That part of the video really perplexes me and stops me from really following (or believing) the rest of it. And I don't see an eye either (just the center of a vortex).

Again, I think Bonacci has revealed some very fundamental ancient knowledge, and it is fascinating and of great value. Possibly the Wisdom of the Ages. And thus, really really important to learn. His knowledge, creativity and passion are admirable. However, who is to say that even the wisest of the ancients (or any of us) really got it and can say what the truth behind it all is. Finding patterns that run throughout history and show up in the celestial bodies is fascinating, but are we (and the authors of the myths and Bible, etc) simply imposing our human beliefs and stories on something that is perhaps simply beyond our comprehension?

I really want to believe what he is revealing here; as for revealed universal truths, the dots are just not connecting for me as readily as for some others. I'll keep watching more videos with an open mind in hopes of better understanding.

[Heretic]

If so, can you (or anyone) explain what Wilton is doing to the the image to reveal the Star of David? That part of the video really perplexes me and stops me from really following (or believing) the rest of it. And I don't see an eye either (just the center of a vortex).

cant say I have looked deep into this or know the exact procedure for producing these particular graphic effects that are now being dissected to reveal esoteric knowledge or supporting evidence of whatever

but the amount of treatment deep space photos receive to appear appealing and awe inspiring, or to reveal a different perspectives by seeing through interstellar cloud by the use of radio spectrometry lends me to think a lot of this may be patternicity

willing to be totally wrong here but I remain skeptical


Behind the Pictures - http://hubblesite.org
The Hubble Space Telescope is noted for providing beautiful and often bizarre color pictures of galaxies, planets, and nebulae. Do the pictures really reflect the colors these objects would have if we visited them in a spacecraft? Why do some of the pictures have an unusual stair-step shape?

Color in Astronomical Images - http://www.astropix.com
Light itself is "out there" in the real world and can be measured and quantified objectively and defined by its wavelength. But color, and its perception by humans, is subjective because of its interpretation by the eye-brain-mind. The "accurate" recording of color in images is complicated because of the combination of these two considerations.

hope this helps

[Gardener]

Then I went to the Danny Wilton video he references and I just fail to see the stuff he sees in the Orion nebula. Did anyone else see it? I don't understand how he was modifying the image to show the pyramid, etc. As one of the YouTube commenters said: you can see anything in an image like that if you stare at it long enough.

Yes I felt the same, either the video quality is not good enough or there is a liberal sprinkling of imagination. This imho is really not a vitally important part of the basics of astrotheology yet in the long run it may be very important, we simple don't know yet.

On the whole, having listened now to several of Santos' videos, some several times over a six month period, I am tending towards astrotheology being the best, most likely foundation to all 'religious' speculation. I certainly can't subscribe to any religious group, and after 50 years of searching along many highways and byways in this arena, this makes the most sense. It is hard to follow Santos, he is quick and jumps around the subjects, draws on the board then wipes it off.

I think the thing to do is follow his sources, as Santos has only been researching in this science for four years, it makes sense to back track along his sources and resources. I am currently reading God-Man: The Word Made Flesh by George Carey and Inez Perry, which is a reprint of a book written in the early part of the 20th century and draws from many writings, it makes fascinating reading.

I have started to bring together some of the references he gives, from the old philosophers (I have quite a few works already so I have a start) and I also have the two books by 'Fulcanelli' (Dwellings of the Philosphers, and Mystery of the Cathedrals) the well known alchemist whose student Eugene Canseliet writes in a forward, that his master was one of the few people who completed 'the great work' I think it is in Dwellings that Funcanelli dedicates his writing ...'For the brothers of Heliopolis.' Helios being the sun. So I don't know Dex but I am willing to spend time digging a bit deeper for evidence and correspondences.

Another thing he mentions in one of his videos is the role of the massa intermedia in the brain, and my ears pricked because during neuro psych classes I remember reading a paper where they were researching the effects of aspartatame on the massa intermedia in rats. At the time I made the connection to the huge amount of aspartame humans have been consuming. Why the massa intermedia!!! Anyway I didn't save a copy but I guess I could find it again if need be. Just saying there is something going on with that item in the brain and he mentioned it.

There are so many branches to the subject and part of the problem is distilling it into some coherent form and getting it from the earliest possible 'horses mouth' seems to be the way to go.

[Gardener]

Just to let those who are interested know, part two of Santos' lecture has been posted:

[Dex]

Just to let those who are interested know, part two of Santos' lecture has been posted:

Thanks Gardener. I've been meaning to come back to this thread and continue the discussion because I think it's really important. My time is short these days, but I will chip away at the video and try to comment.

[Gardener]

I mentioned the alchemist Fulcanelli in my last post because I think there is a link, and in this second video he mentions the torture of Jaques Molay; well it is fairly well accepted by a number of people now that Jaques Molay was indeed the elusive fulcanelli. The plot thickens, so thought I would mention that.

[Dex]

I mentioned the alchemist Fulcanelli in my last post because I think there is a link, and in this second video he mentions the torture of Jaques Molay; well it is fairly well accepted by a number of people now that Jaques Molay was indeed the elusive fulcanelli. The plot thickens, so thought I would mention that.

Tell us more about Fulcaneli/Molay and his work!

[Dex]

Watched the 2nd video. Many thoughts. Has anyone read the book he references multiple times? Burgoyne, Thomas H. The light of Egypt; or, The science of the soul and the stars

I found the text online: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/mo...c/BurLigh.html

[Gardener]

Oops major faux pass?, I meant Jules Violle NOT Jacques de-Molay, argh!!! Jacques de-Molay is believed by some to have been Fulcanelli, but there is also a link with him to the Turin shroud but I don’t know the truth of that.

Anyway.....
The adept alchemist Fulcanelli, (a pseudonym) wrote the two books I previously mentioned, saying that the ancient alchemists left evidence of ‘the great work’ carved in the stone of the cathedrals, and homes of other adepts.
The wiki page has a lot of good information and links about Fulcanelli,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcanelli

One man who should know more than most is Patrick Riviere, a student of Eugene Canseliet, who in turn was a student of Fulcanelli. It is Patrick Riviere who suggests that Fulcanelli was Jules Violle.
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During the time of the Templars and the crusades it was heresy to be dabbling in the occult, punishable by burning at the steak or other diabolical deaths. For this reason anyone would naturally go underground and hide their work. This would most especially apply to someone with a high profile within the church. So it makes sense they would record it in stone and wood carvings.

Firstly here is a potted history of Jacques de-Molay, templar grand master. I personally don’t think this was Fulcanelli, but I DO think he was an alchemist and I DO think he carried the knowledge of the Sun and astrotheology, as previously mentioned, and for which he was tortured and killed. (To keep him from informing.) This knowledge is dangerous to established Christianity at the mundane level.

http://blog.templarhistory.com/2010/...lay-1244-1314/

If alchemists could make gold from lead then there would be abundant evidence in recent years, its a cover imho to keep the greedy busy chasing rainbows, and the truth away from the likes of us.

Completing the great work (so they say) brings one to a place of full consciousness which stretches outside time and space and resembles what Santos is talking about in his lectures, in particular the one called, ‘Your Body is the Holy land’.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EvrG40qXjM&feature=plcp

Somehow it’s all linked, and the staggering degree of obfuscation throughout the centuries leads me to the opinion that within astrotheology is the thread we need to pull on.

Ok I hope that helps somewhat to see where I am coming from with these thoughts, sorry about misleading you with the names but there really isn't that much difference between what the two men had in common in an occult sense except the era.

[Gardener]

Thanks for the link Dex, I haven't read it but I intend to. I was going to buy the book but this looks like a good option, at least for now. The trouble with a lot of this type of research is that it is easy to kiss a few frogs before finding the real stuff.

Watched the 2nd video. Many thoughts. Has anyone read the book he references multiple times? Burgoyne, Thomas H. The light of Egypt; or, The science of the soul and the stars

I found the text online: http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/mo...c/BurLigh.html

[Dex]

Thank you Gardener. I'm going to keep thinking, reading and commenting on this as time allows. I really appreciate what you are sharing and this exchange.

[Dex]

Thanks for the link Dex

You are welcome. Actually, that link is just to volume 2. Volume 1 is what seems to be referenced in the video. Here is a link to both: http://books.google.com/books?id=R95...page&q&f=false

Volume 1 includes a chapter on the dark satellite mentioned in the video.

It appears that the books were written in part to try to debunk Buddhism. Also, the material is channeled. Still trying to read it with an open mind and in relation to the videos.

If alchemists could make gold from lead then there would be abundant evidence in recent years, its a cover imho to keep the greedy busy chasing rainbows, and the truth away from the likes of us.

I've thought the same thing. Maybe the gold is not literal, but a state of evolved consciousness (lighter and more refined than the heavy coarse one we start with).

The adept alchemist Fulcanelli, (a pseudonym) wrote the two books I previously mentioned, saying that the ancient alchemists left evidence of ?the great work? carved in the stone of the cathedrals, and homes of other adepts.
The wiki page has a lot of good information and links about Fulcanelli,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulcanelli

I read this. It lead me down a wikipedia path that touched on "The Great Work" being atomic energy and Nietzsche's eternal recurrence notion. This is one fun rabbit hole!

[Dex]

This astrotheology stuff makes me rethink astrology; give it a second look. I've generally thought it to be bunk - wishful thinking and making things fit where they don't.* After exploring this thread's videos and links, I'm thinking: maybe we've been presented a watered-down version of astrology with a sole focus on silly horoscopes and sun signs in pop culture and perhaps it is actually more complex (and possibly more profound and sublime). Maybe astrology IS the Wisdom of the Ages, hiding in plain sight (just look up...). Obviously, many seekers have studied it as such through out history. The astronomy of it is based on math and physics, so there is certainly merit to the science of the stars (interpreting it as spiritual is perhaps something else though, IMHO).

The whole idea that Geminis are like this and Libras like that generally appalls me though. I know people say you need to look at the other planets in the birth chart and all to get a more accurate picture, but then why the ongoing emphasis on sun signs and horoscopes based on them? Just to turn rational thinkers off? Hmmm? Even in the video, Santos says all Aries are the same (in some ways). I'm sorry, but that is just silly. Anyone could read the characteristics of any sign and say, yeah, that's me (or him or her). It is just vague enough to accommodate wishful thinking (we want to believe there is order and sense). Then again, maybe the public perception of astrology is intentionally distorted and simplified to throw off the thinkers/skeptics...

This makes me ponder why astrology has been so important through the ages. Yes, there is the human craving for order, predicting the future and explaining our otherwise mysterious fates. There is also the power and social status granted to those who have studied it and can advise based on it. But on another level, the astronomy side of it, it is all about the Earth's position in relation to the sun and planets. So that makes me think perhaps it has something fundamental to do with calculating and giving symbolic meaning to our home planet's exact location as well as exact points in linear time when certain angles form between these celestial bodies.

Astronomy/astrology is literally a map in space and time. If you know how to read it, the sky tells us exactly where and when we are. And we can also tell where and when these coordinates place past and future moments. Now, adding spiritual meaning and future predictions to that is another matter, IMHO. Maybe adding the layer of astrological/astrotheological symbolism, has helped man wonder about, learn, remember and teach these place and time markers (astronomy) through the ages. It is easier to learn such a vast science when it has meaning (specifically, very personal and spiritual meaning). What I am wondering is, perhaps astrology is a way to bring/keep the science of astronomy alive, but is still a man-made fiction.

*I mean no disrespect to those who identify/resonate with astrology; I'm just a hopeless skeptic in hopeful love with the mysteries of life.

[alienHunter]

Hi Dex,

I gave up the study of astrology many years ago because I found it too stressful for me but in the process I did come to an agnostic state of belief regarding its efficacy. A number of bonafide scientific studies have been done and have verified that its predictive capability surpasses chance. Astrology has always been around and developed independently in most indigenous cultures much like the Ancient Astronaut 'mythology'. Its scientific foundation is based in electromagnetic energies and their commingling.

In answer to your Gemini/Libra question the sole reason for the emphasis placed on sun signs is marketing...plain and simple. When astrologers make statements regarding group similarities of signs what they are really saying is that different influences impart 'group' tendencies. For example, Sun Signs impart 'character', Moon signs impart 'personality', Ascendants impart 'life experience', etc. Of course, each influence flavors the tendencies within each individual.

In a high school calculus class I did a presentation on the science behind astrology and got an 'A'. I promise you it was the only one I got that year or possibly ever. The one important point that I attempted to explain to the class was that in true classic astrology identical charts occur once every 25, 000 years. That's quite a separation between two 'like' individuals.

Sir Isaac Newton to Sir Edmund Halley who stated that there was no scientific credibility:
"But I have studied the subject, Sir and you have not!"

This astrotheology stuff makes me rethink astrology; give it a second look. I've generally thought it to be bunk - wishful thinking and making things fit where they don't.* After exploring this thread's videos and links, I'm thinking: maybe we've been presented a watered-down version of astrology with a sole focus on silly horoscopes and sun signs in pop culture and perhaps it is actually more complex (and possibly more profound and sublime). Maybe astrology IS the Wisdom of the Ages, hiding in plain sight (just look up...). Obviously, many seekers have studied it as such through out history. The astronomy of it is based on math and physics, so there is certainly merit to the science of the stars (interpreting it as spiritual is perhaps something else though, IMHO).

The whole idea that Geminis are like this and Libras like that generally appalls me though. I know people say you need to look at the other planets in the birth chart and all to get a more accurate picture, but then why the ongoing emphasis on sun signs and horoscopes based on them? Just to turn rational thinkers off? Hmmm? Even in the video, Santos says all Aries are the same (in some ways). I'm sorry, but that is just silly. Anyone could read the characteristics of any sign and say, yeah, that's me (or him or her). It is just vague enough to accommodate wishful thinking (we want to believe there is order and sense). Then again, maybe the public perception of astrology is intentionally distorted and simplified to throw off the thinkers/skeptics...

This makes me ponder why astrology has been so important through the ages. Yes, there is the human craving for order, predicting the future and explaining our otherwise mysterious fates. There is also the power and social status granted to those who have studied it and can advise based on it. But on another level, the astronomy side of it, it is all about the Earth's position in relation to the sun and planets. So that makes me think perhaps it has something fundamental to do with calculating and giving symbolic meaning to our home planet's exact location as well as exact points in linear time when certain angles form between these celestial bodies.

Astronomy/astrology is literally a map in space and time. If you know how to read it, the sky tells us exactly where and when we are. And we can also tell where and when these coordinates place past and future moments. Now, adding spiritual meaning and future predictions to that is another matter, IMHO. Maybe adding the layer of astrological/astrotheological symbolism, has helped man wonder about, learn, remember and teach these place and time markers (astronomy) through the ages. It is easier to learn such a vast science when it has meaning (specifically, very personal and spiritual meaning). What I am wondering is, perhaps astrology is a way to bring/keep the science of astronomy alive, but is still a man-made fiction.

*I mean no disrespect to those who identify/resonate with astrology; I'm just a hopeless skeptic in hopeful love with the mysteries of life.

[Dex]

AH, thank you for reading my long meandering post and your thoughtful comments. I guess I'm an Astrology agnostic too. I am open to the possibility that it is real and I am fascinated by the ways different civilizations through the ages have valued it so highly. Curious about your thoughts on these notions:

- Perhaps the emphasis on sun signs is more than marketing; an intentional distortion to water down the power of astrology and turn thinkers off.

- Perhaps astrology was developed as a learning tool to interest, engage and teach astronomy students.

- Perhaps one of the purposes of astrology is to place each Earth inhabitant in time and space within the galaxy. For those who believe in the existance of an eternal and reincarnating soul, maybe these coordinate help us find our way to Earth during a certain time.

Just exploring the possibilities here and curious about your thoughts!

[Gardener]

Just FYI another Santos talk has been posted on the tube, goes over some of the same ground to begin with. Have just listened to the first half hour. As usual he goes at 100 miles an hour and makes some tenuous connections but on the whole so far its good. He mentions Fulcanelli too lol.

Dex I want to reply to your post and need some time to do that, but I hear you on the skeptic, astrology is much the same for me too, and I am guessing that there is a reason that astrology in the main is just really chewing gum for the hopeful.
Multi tasking at the moment as I am sure you are But these talks have me so intrigued and fired up.

[Akhenaten]

The problem with seeing images into constellations is that if you shift your vantage point then even if the image appeared to be there before, it is gone. Engaging in these kinds of activities therefor could be considered to be a gigantic exercise in Narcissistic Astronomy. As there are, as Carl Sagan put it, "Billions upon Billions" (of stars and galaxies) in our Universe, then there conceivably are unlimited perspectives and views depending upon one's vantage point. One of the tricks of the human mind and perception is its uncanny ability to 'read' just about anything into the matrix, and it is often unclear what is 'real' and what is merely another projection. Often what is 'seen' (i.e. projected) tells us more about the projector than it does about anything else. It is all just a big movie.....Just sayin'.

I'm glad I watched this. I got very excited about what he is showing. Then I went to the Danny Wilton video he references and I just fail to see the stuff he sees in the Orion nebula. Did anyone else see it? I don't understand how he was modifying the image to show the pyramid, etc. As one of the YouTube commenters said: you can see anything in an image like that if you stare at it long enough.

Sorry to be so cynical, but I'm wondering if some of these observations are the result of wanting very badly for things to make some "sense" in the universe. That said, I do think that this guy is revealing/applying ancient wisdom and it is worth watching for that reason. However, even if this is a system of hidden knowledge, is it truth or created out of the human desire to find spiritual meaning in the mechanics of the universe?

[Dex]

One of the tricks of the human mind and perception is its uncanny ability to 'read' just about anything into the matrix, and it is often unclear what is 'real' and what is merely another projection. Often what is 'seen' (i.e. projected) tells us more about the projector than it does about anything else.

Glad this conversation is still going, because I think it is a good illustration of the possible dynamic that you describe above Akh. This dynamic should be of interest in the alt media in general, since it shows up frequently, in a wide variety of contexts (IMHO). The pyramid in the nebula may be there and be very meaningful -- I admit that is a possibility. I have a few ideas that consider alternatives:

1) The human mind's stunning ability to identify patterns and interpret them (this is one of our foremost survival strategies). Often this skill saves/informs us (mostly via the intuition that the pattern-recognition drives subconsciously, is my understanding). Perhaps, like our immune systems going into overdrive to create allergies, our pattern-recognition can become exaggerated and over-reactive as well (especially in stressful or frightening situations). Thus, we see our furtures in tea leaves and innumerable random patterns.

2) The possible use of patterns and symbols (via astrology) to engage learners, teach and retain complex information relating to the science of astronomy (as I pondered above). Memorizing and tracking these constellations and relationships between planets is useful tool for evolving civilizations and for identifying the Earth's place in space and time (for which I can imagine many applications).

3) If astrology is indeed a non-supernatural human projection (and not an observation of spiritual forces), perhaps it is a useful tool to understand our inner lives/psyches (as below is above?).

What do you think? This thread has been very eye-opening to me because it has made me seriously consider the potential non-spiritual value of astrology (something I formerly wrote off as superstitious hooey and wishful thinking).

[Gardener]

From what I can gather, the constellations represented in the zodiac were so named by ancient civilisations and they don't change no matter where in the world you view them; at least not for a couple thousand years as they slowly travel backwards during the precession of the equinoxes.
There is little or no resemblence to their given names imho, so looking for patterns to identify them by their name would be difficult or impossible.

As for what constellation the sun was in during an idividuals birth, much speculation abounds, and to be quite objective it, it may or may not affect the fundamental nature or temperament of a human being. I for one simply don't know, and am less inclined to go down that road on an individual basis. Though I have to say as a Pisces I am fairly consistent with the descriptions given for that sign.

But the journey of the sun through the constellation-year has a great deal to do with what we do and when to survive, sowing; growing; harvesting; storing, and 'eating'. Recently I began planting and growing by the moon, and i have to say the effect is astonishing. During the two weeks waning before new moon, I have noticed there is very little top growth, and as soon as the 1st quarter starts and the moon is waxing 'boom' sprouting up gets faster;
The ancients understood this well, and I think it is no co-incidence that during 'taurus the bull' we are ploughing and sowing so to speak, and during Libra the harvest is in, and we are in the scales at the equinox where we transition and travel into the lower half of the circle into autumn and winter, darkness and cold.

So yea, I think it is important, even if we only understand it at the very basic level. We have become so badly distracted from the rhythms of nature and thus the journey of the sun through the constellations. What else are we missing?

The so called galaxies and spiraling electromagnetic universe above, is mirrored in the spiraling of my runner beans round their poles, always the same, anticlockwise. So thus far nothing is left to imagination or subjectivity, all is 'observable'.

[alienHunter]

Hi Dex,

Well, I can state an opinion on the middle conjecture. I think they developed coincidentally (meaning in tandem). Though, I can certainly see your point.

Astronomers complaint:
"I can't believe I went to school for 12 years and ended up working nights!" Nyuk! Nyuk! Nyuk!

AH, thank you for reading my long meandering post and your thoughtful comments. I guess I'm an Astrology agnostic too. I am open to the possibility that it is real and I am fascinated by the ways different civilizations through the ages have valued it so highly. Curious about your thoughts on these notions:

- Perhaps the emphasis on sun signs is more than marketing; an intentional distortion to water down the power of astrology and turn thinkers off.

- Perhaps astrology was developed as a learning tool to interest, engage and teach astronomy students.

- Perhaps one of the purposes of astrology is to place each Earth inhabitant in time and space within the galaxy. For those who believe in the existance of an eternal and reincarnating soul, maybe these coordinate help us find our way to Earth during a certain time.

Just exploring the possibilities here and curious about your thoughts!