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    UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope



    This guys sees some very interesting object out there.

    -Robert
    This footage is from an amature astronomers telescope,he has pictures and video evidence of large space craft in space around are planet.The goverment deny it but its there,if it is are goverments up there then why are they there? and what are they there for?,if it isn't are goverments then who is it? where are they from? and what are they doing? All big questions am sure you would agree they need to be addressed.We the people have a right to know


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    Re: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope

    bummer...

    JOHN LENARD WALSON FOUND TO BE A HOAXER
    (By way of response to Interstellar Space Craft: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=07c_1268314240 )
    Fogetomori
    By, Mori
    February 12, 2008

    You've read those stories on rense.com for the past month about a guy named John Lenard Walson who says his specially outfitted amateur telescope has filmed not only the International Space Station, but many stars in the sky that are in fact huge structured objects. Forgetomori gets to the bottom of it all: it appears that his name is not Walson, and everything is just-another-hoax.


    In short: guy named John Lenard Walson says he invented a new gadget capable of extending his amateur telescope resolution. Walson then says he could film not only the International Space Station (ISS), but that he discovered that many stars in the sky are in fact HUGE structured objects. Walson then asks, in a very thrilling manner to some, Mystery Space Machines Above. Black Ops, Star Wars Or ET? Or All Of The Above?

    This has been going for over a month now, as Walson keeps uploading new videos, images and heightening the tension. But he never gets to the smoking gun. Probably because his name is not Walson, and everything is just-another-hoax.

    Let us start from the trivia. Walson intended to sell his footage, involved himself with fellow mystery sellers, but they ended up fighting. You can check some of the public name-calling here. Millions of dollars, Spielberg and such are things involved. But that's not all.

    Less trivial is the fact that Walson seems to have been presenting videos from other people as if they were shot by him. Like an orb or even the much debated military helicopters that were harassing him at home. Those were in fact originally published on the Internet some years ago, by one Abby (Bambi) Parker. You can check more about UFO video piracy here.

    Or not. Apparently, Abby Parker is in fact Walson himself. Or not. Walson is Parker's husband. Or not. Walson has a very sick wife, who wasn't Parker. Or not.

    There's much confusion and embarrassing excuses given, but this is essentially trivial. Even if the helicopters videos are indeed real, filmed by whomever claims to be harassed, they would be no mystery. At least according to the definitely not-debunkers folks at the AboveTopSecret forum.

    Springer, from ATS, claims that a license plate of a van in the video could be traced back to a company that is located near a military airbase. That, along with the refusal to disclose any actual details of their methods, led to the expulsion of one of Walson's spokespersons (or Walson himself, who knows). The whole case is now tagged as a HOAX on ATS.

    Not happy with so many embarrassing moments, Walson actually went to the length of recording an interview with an astronomer. Only thing is that he didn't tell the astronomer he was being filmed, and then edited the interview to make it look like it supported his claims. The astronomer was not very happy about that.

    But anyway. All these things are trivial. The fact they are evidence that Walson is a liar, crank and similar adjectives shouldn't be relevant if he did in fact create something capable of doing what he claims. Unfortunately, he didn't.

    Walson claims he uses an eight inch Meade telescope to shoot his videos. He says the giant machines are fixed in the sky. That he can record them in plain daylight, at noon. Or that he can record sounds from the machines in space. If this last claim didn't ring any skeptical bells for you, watch more Alien movies, because in space nobody can hear you scream. In fact all of the previous claims are more or less impossible.

    Photographing the ISS and satellites is very possible, though. And this may be the clearest evidence of Walson's hoax. Read this article on the NYT about amateur enthusiasts who actually track and image orbiting objects. And then, check the video below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Wp-CuJksk

    Amazing shots of the ISS by Mike Tyrrell and Phil Masding, see more on Tyrell's website.

    Now, compare it with what Walson claims is the ISS:


    Click to view image: '1a3473ea2fb9-isswalson.jpg'

    Walson's revolutionary, status-quo shattering, new super-secret invention actually produces worse images. Which means that if there were giant machines on space, you would expect amateur, noted, conventional astronomers to spot them much earlier.

    And Walson's images are not only worse. That ISN'T the ISS at all. Which leads us to the crucible question of how he creates his videos.

    There are many possibilities, but someone already managed to reproduce very similar images. Without aiming above. In fact, waveguide suggests he recreated the videos using models made with aluminum foil, shot at a distance and distorted with mirrors and glasses.

    From: http://aliencases.conforums.com/inde...num=1202851535
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    This guys sees some very interesting object out there.

    -Robert



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    Re: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope

    thanks AH, thread moved to Debunked.


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