The Bible

[magamud]

“A voice of one calling in the wilderness,
‘Prepare the way for the Lord,
?make straight paths for him.’”

‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.”
“the people living in darkness
?have seen a great light;
on those living in the land of the shadow of death
?a light has dawned.”

“For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”

“If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!”

“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.”

Lucifer has a very powerful light, it is in denying Gods plan. It sacrifices gods world to attain a levitation into the etherial, much how our hallucinogens destroy the body to push the mind into these areas. This is nothing more then a temptation, a false hope or a carrot on a stick to take away the salt that is within you.

This false light, then transverses or fractals into a plethora of foundations to give a supposed power, ergo money, control, arrogance, separation.
I have explained how the Eastern myst has fallen into this trap, with the Devil thread and the lotus eaters.

Our world is made up of a singularity and consciousness is the first step in matter. The occultist came before the scientist.
Our earth is a womb for consciousness development. How can you know the world if you do not know evil?

We are in a garden and are the seeds of God and we are on a cycle, like seasons in a year. Since god loves sovereignty he lets people choose to acknowledge him, but provides support for those seeking.
His support manifests in a holy spirit, his word, art, literature, prophets, and his son. This is a key to the alpha and omega or the Orobourus, in how to understand the omnipotent creator manifesting into a regular human. This is the circle or straight line of life. This is why we have so many myths of the One throughout history. I believe these are past memories of previous cycles our society has been through. I feel that we have a certain amount of time to attain consciousness and our timeline is the blueprint of this Harvest. Our manifestations change in appearance, for example Atlantis, Mars, Marduk.

The Devil lives within the Mind of God so he is also subject to gods laws. Hence this dark dance we are in.
The beam of light from god manifests through this architecture and into you and its a straight line.

If you need scientific ammo amongst many things for this battle I would direct you to Redezra's Thread the bible at Avalon...

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[lightblue]

thanks for the thread mags...

i never studied the bible so my understanding is not set ..


if i may - according to the gnostics, our physical/material world was created by demiurge , (intermediary) entity ofen represented like this:

150px-Lion-faced_deity.jpg


demiurge is of god but not aware of god and arrogant in thinking itself is god...apparently, again according to the gnostics, this is where our troubles stem from..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge

http://87.248.112.8/search/srpcache?...yYoAOT77Yi8Q--


-post update-


...and i am thinking, if god created the arrogant entity and gave it a mandate to create our current matrix, would it not mean that god is not infalable? maybe like us, god source is naive and (was) prone to deception too.....i know it sounds absurd, but i didn't have a religious upbringing..


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[magamud]

Yes our trouble is not being able to find the one path as the Devil gives thousands of other paths some painted in Gold, Power and Godliness. The crux of the Devils intention is to use all his powers to cover up this one light.

Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’?

Our material manifestation is the boundaries of our consciousness. Our reflection of awareness. This is how imho the one can cleanse illness. He is god and exists in that place that we cannot go and forgives us there, hence our bodily physicality can change instantly.

“Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?” This pertains to the Great Cycle, the harvest and the delusions of deniability the devils ponzie scheme is about.

“If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”
The heart of the Devil and his legions is to find a way outside of Gods plan. This pertains to their abominations with immortality and their greed for physicality. And I suspect on how our culture uses entertainment to process our awareness, demons do the same with us behind the veil.

[lightblue]

“If you drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.”
The heart of the Devil and his legions is to find a way outside of Gods plan. This pertains to their abominations with immortality and their greed for physicality. And I suspect on how our culture uses entertainment to process our awareness, demons do the same with us behind the veil.

i think arch-demon/demons need human blind faith in their might and power to be able to fake god...if human race witheld it, they'd go down like a house of cards...with god source is quite different - one just feels a quiet acceptance of its' isness...

demons promis immortality, god and souled humans are about eternity.. l

[Chuck]

If you need scientific ammo amongst many things for this battle I would direct you to Redezra's Thread the bible at Avalon...

yeah... it ranks right up there with most other hogwash I've read in my life.

[magamud]

but i didn't have a religious upbringing..

Either do or did I....

god is not infalable?

Evil is the corruption of sovereignty methinks. God wants us to be individuals, grow up to know him. Just like a good parent does with his children. Earthly suffering transforms when esoteric knowledge of life is known. I think we vacillate our logos between incarnation and death. Going from one extreme to the other in how consciousness interacts with matter. Death in a sense, you get whatever you want, but you experience the opposite here with being involved with people. Here we are flooded with individuals apparently cramping our space. I think in each world we move through cycles, rings, circles to learn and our consciousness manifest the path we transmute into. I think the path is between these two worlds.

[lightblue]

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ELOHIM Enjoyed the Smell of BBQed Flesh

" A former Vatican translator sticks his neck out to deliver the truth about what the Bible really says when translated directly without interpretation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4MXLB6SwPg
Mauro Biglino translated 23 books of the Bible for the Vatican. He had to translate the Leningrad Codex (the version of the Bible which all three major monotheistic religions - Cristian, Jewish and Muslim - recognize as the official Bible) from the Hebrew, word by word, literally and with no interpretation whatsoever. That is to say, he's not a wannabe kabbalist, conspirationist or ufologist, since the official publishing organism of the Vatican approved and released those books, at least 17 of them.
While working on the Bible, he realized that many of the stories this book tells where mistranslated, misinterpretated, mostly on purpose, in order to insert the notion of a spiritual, allmighty and unerring God. The picture he gives us of the bestseller of all times is surprisingly different from what we all were told"
http://unrev.org/


press the CC button at the bottom of video for english subtitles (if they don't come on authomatically)






" Eik?na, instead, has a more concrete value and represents any object showing the image of someone or something: a painting, a sculpture, a bas-relief, an inlay or embroidery work…
We must here recognize that by translating tsel?m with the word eik?na, Greeks have come close to the very deepest meaning of this Semitic consonantal root.
Indeed, tsel?m does not indicate the abstract concept of image as it is variously interpreted by religious literature and traditional theology, which try to provide different explanations: in fact, it denotes, specifically, “a quid of matter that contains an image”.
Greek translators have maintained the same value for both prefixes that have in Hebrew quite dissimilar meanings: in the biblical text, the two words indicating the image and the resemblance are in fact preceded by two different prefixes, B (be) and U (ki), which have different meanings; such differences are no small matter" http://www.holy-bible-aliens.com/?tag=mauro-biglino



---post update--

the smell of organic matter i.e. flesh being grilled, burned, seared may explain why the biblical jews practiced religious slaughter/offerings of animals to "god"...i put god in inverted comas here as i think that what the biblical jew (moses) encountered was none other than a vengeful, wrathful (archonic) et/intradimensional entity who pledged rewards with many strings attached...





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[Odah]

i believe i mention a lot of the scripture we study now is the result of lots of editing and mist translation.. and many time a lot of biblical memes people repeat are different enough from what is written ..that they say something completley different from what is meant ..such as the love of money is the root of all evil ..which is how it is written ..but people say money is the root of all evil..

then there is jesus.. who originally said be whole ..but it has be twisted to mean be prefect ..

even the hebrew texts where compiled centuraies after the events happened and many versions of the stories had to be fleshed out.. and it really seems odd that the jews "wandered" for 40 years between leaving egypt and going to isreal.. when in reality .. they settled down for long enough that all those with the slave mentality died off and the rest where formed into a very powerful invading army by the hands of moses ..who really was a General of an army ..

remember the Jews thought their savior would be some General who would come back and yelp them throw off the yoke of roman oppression ..

[Chuck]

? and not to mention ?St. Paul? being a chauvinistic retard? and psychopathic, fanatical, wannabe.

[Odah]

i think pauls stuff was adapted and rewritten by the early church ..possibly by forces more friendly to peter who founded the early church and is the one who put the negative view on mary magdalain ..

i watch something a few years ago and by looking at the writing style of the letters of paul they figure most where really not written by him ..

[magamud]

Lightblue has a good idea of the Fallen Angels, Archons, etc...
Your connection to source is in each of you by just remembering. It is a relationship, maybe somewhere between Emptiness and all the Theosophical ideologies. You can tease out your belief system by finding out where your power is going. Its good to think on this first before choosing a path....

[magamud]

I just wanted to quote RedeZra from Avalon and show my support to his insight....

RedeZra
Avalon Member

Re: the Bible
it seems to me some might think


that a meeting impartation or infusion with the Holy spirit

give them an infallible understanding of the Word of God


that is not so


as a Body of God we each receive a piece of the puzzle

and we will not know the whole story

until the very end


so humble opinions all around ; )

[deansloan]

Genesis Chapter I
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: And God saw that it was good.
25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind and everything that creepeth upon the earh after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26 And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

So, God made man in his image and likeness, which is “divine” without dispute, and he made “every thing”, which “was very good.”

“Lucifer is a Latin word. (Lux = light/fire Ferre = to bear/to bring). The Old Testament was written primarily in Hebrew, so the word Lucifer could not have been in their language. So, then if the word were not amongst them at that time, then who gave us that word?
In 382 AD, Pope Damasus I commissioned St. Jerome to write a revision of the old Latin translation of the Bible. This task was completed sometime during the 5th century AD, and eventually it was considered the official and definite Latin version of the Bible according to the Roman Catholic church. By the 13th century it was considered the versio vulgate – the common translation.
It was St. Jerome who placed the word Lucifer into the Bible, and not just once, but three times! Isaiah 14:12, Job 11:17, and 2 Peter 1:19.
Isaiah 14:12 - 12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Job 11:17 - 17And thine age shall be clearer than the noonday: thou shalt shine forth, thou shalt be as the morning.
2 Peter 1:19 - 19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts.
The Hebrew translation had the word helel in the place of Lucifer, or rather St. Jerome replaced the word helel with Lucifer. What does helel mean? It means ‘shining one’.
‘How art fallen from Heaven, O Shining One son of the dawn.’
‘…until the day dawns and the Shining One rises in your hearts.’
And what then of the Greek translation? Helel in Greek translates into Eosphorus/Phosphorus. And in this translation the word means ‘light bearer’
‘How art fallen from Heaven, O Light Bearer, son of the dawn.’
‘…until the day dawns and the Light Bearer rises in your hearts.’
http://sanctusvesania.hubpages.com/h...e-TRUE-Lucifer

The Gnostics foolishly disputed God’s word, because they saw terrible things happening on the earth, therefore, God must be wrong and fallible, not really a perfect, divine creator. Lucifer somehow created another earth that all of God’s “blessed” children are living on [Right! Yes sir, you bet cha]. It was the dark forces of Atlantis (black magicians) carried over into the modern world of the Gnostics that created all the “evil” in the world, not Lucifer. There are good “secret societies”* and there are bad?, which exist in the world today, and it is the latter who denigrated the former, that control the political and banking institutions in the world and are bringing about their new world order.

* http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof14.htm
? http://www.religiouscounterfeits.org...mweishaupt.htm

As I pointed out elsewhere, magamud: “Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn’t fit in with the core belief”-Frantz Fanon
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quot....Frantz_Fanon]

[magamud]

"The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity."

Matthew 13:41

[KristenAnn]

My sense is that "God" is not an individual. I just sense that we've made a mistake by imagining/conceiving God to be a person -- a great person. My sense is that this Ultimate essence known as "God" is really an energy. It's a VERY difficult concept to try to understand. We like to give human attributes to things.

For some reason I've always been fascinated with uncovering the real truth of life's deepest mysteries. This interest included discovering the REAL meaning of the Bible. I had always thought that the Old Testament practice of sacrificing people & animals was a misunderstanding on the part of the people. That it was a ritual they created. Interesting that this guy who translated the Bible seems to have found instructions for burning victims. . .

I still think of my conversations with Dan Fry. Dan was a contactee in the '50s and 60s. I met him on a trip out west in the late '70s. Dan would tell me the fascinating things that the aliens had told him. For four years before they came to live on Earth they asked him for books from the base (White Sands Missile Base where Dan was stationed at the time in New Mexico). Books on all subjects relating to humans and Earth. They'd teleport, copy the books & have them back the next day. Later they told Dan that the one they found most interesting was our Bible. One thing they said was that their ancestors were often included int he Bible as "angels". They explained that they were working for "God" -- for the force of goodness or Light -- so this wasn't inaccurate. The Greek word "angeloi" means "messenger" or "emissary" -- and they were exactly that: emissaries of the Light/goodness/God. (I explained this all, and other conversations with Dan in my book because it was so intriguing.)

One of the MOST interesting things the aliens told Dan was that it was their ancestors in a small 'carrier craft' that led the Hebrews thru the desert for 40 years. It's reported in the bible that the craft appeared as a "cloud" by day and that it glowed like a ball of fire by night. (Ufos are known to hide themselves in clouds, and also to glow when they're performing certain operations. Perhaps the creation of the "manna" they dropped to feed the tribes made it necessary for the craft to glow at night.

This fascinated me! And I asked Dan WHAT the purpose was of isolating these people for 40 years. His response was equally fascinating. They had told him that they needed to isolate these people until one full generation had passed before allowing them to settle in a town again. It was because those old tribes harbored SUCH powerful negativity, hatred and vengeance. They lived by the motto "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth", a phrase that fueled their sense of vengeance. It was a long involved explanation the et's gave, but the gist of it was that if those people hadn't been turned around and 'monitored' at that point in time, there could have/would have been horrible disasters in our future. There could even have been a possibility that we wouldn't have survived long enough to make it (maybe we'd have been annihilated by a bomb) to an immense point of destiny that the extraterrestrials were now coming to help us with.

These conversations were SO intriguing. And they really made me wonder about that manna and what exactly were its ingredients. Was it designed/made to sort of mold or change those people . . . ? There are SO MANY fascinating aspects of life that we don't fully understand . . .

"There are more things in heaven and in Earth, Horatio, than are dreamed of in your philosophy." Shakespeare, from Hamlet.

[Dex]

And they really made me wonder about that manna and what exactly were its ingredients.

I think it was on one of those Ancient Aliens shows that someone postulated that the manna was algae grown in a spaceship and that the Arc of the Covenant was actually the manna making machine.

Now brace yourself for being called a satanist for not following the Biblical Father.

[magamud]

My sense is that "God" is not an individual.

This is the dialectic of the cosmos KristenAnn.

You will continue to project abominations as to strengthen your wall of individuality. You do this so you can learn it by yourself. So my hat is off to you.

Dan Fry

It sounds about right. The Greys are actually the good guys and the Angelic looking Matreyas are the fallen angels.

led the Hebrews thru the desert for 40 years.

This is what Jesus was explaining on how we will do great things as him. We get to synthesize Alien consciousness with human prophecy...

until one full generation had passed

I have no doubt we are being cosmically socially engineered. A lot of the Drama is about this and how we are intertwined whether we like it or not so to speak. You should check out Orthodoxyism posts at The mists of Avalon site. He appears plugged into it.

hatred and vengeance.

We have done a very good job in describing these two aspects. A test for the faithful?

extraterrestrials were now coming to help us with.

I suspect ET philanthrope has been done. And I suspect our Pleidian lore is derived from someone helping to soon. The individual the singularity is the truth of the matter. It cycles through its creation, creating gardens of Eden. A farmer at heart...

manna and what exactly were its ingredients

Manna is truth, but people just use its power to create what they want. You can extrapolate a many things, when high esoteric science is involved.

[alienHunter]

well Shakespeare was an androgynous ET...so what the hell does he know... :O)

I read one of Dan Fry's books and i did find it a very interesting read...he seemed such an unlikely character to be making stories up though I do believe in some people's minds he has been debunked...I've never seen that material however.

My sense is that "God" is not an individual. I just sense that we've made a mistake by imagining/conceiving God to be a person -- a great person. My sense is that this Ultimate essence known as "God" is really an energy. It's a VERY difficult concept to try to understand. We like to give human attributes to things.

For some reason I've always been fascinated with uncovering the real truth of life's deepest mysteries. This interest included discovering the REAL meaning of the Bible. I had always thought that the Old Testament practice of sacrificing people & animals was a misunderstanding on the part of the people. That it was a ritual they created. Interesting that this guy who translated the Bible seems to have found instructions for burning victims. . .

I still think of my conversations with Dan Fry. Dan was a contactee in the '50s and 60s. I met him on a trip out west in the late '70s. Dan would tell me the fascinating things that the aliens had told him. For four years before they came to live on Earth they asked him for books from the base (White Sands Missile Base where Dan was stationed at the time in New Mexico). Books on all subjects relating to humans and Earth. They'd teleport, copy the books & have them back the next day. Later they told Dan that the one they found most interesting was our Bible. One thing they said was that their ancestors were often included int he Bible as "angels". They explained that they were working for "God" -- for the force of goodness or Light -- so this wasn't inaccurate. The Greek word "angeloi" means "messenger" or "emissary" -- and they were exactly that: emissaries of the Light/goodness/God. (I explained this all, and other conversations with Dan in my book because it was so intriguing.)

One of the MOST interesting things the aliens told Dan was that it was their ancestors in a small 'carrier craft' that led the Hebrews thru the desert for 40 years. It's reported in the bible that the craft appeared as a "cloud" by day and that it glowed like a ball of fire by night. (Ufos are known to hide themselves in clouds, and also to glow when they're performing certain operations. Perhaps the creation of the "manna" they dropped to feed the tribes made it necessary for the craft to glow at night.

This fascinated me! And I asked Dan WHAT the purpose was of isolating these people for 40 years. His response was equally fascinating. They had told him that they needed to isolate these people until one full generation had passed before allowing them to settle in a town again. It was because those old tribes harbored SUCH powerful negativity, hatred and vengeance. They lived by the motto "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth", a phrase that fueled their sense of vengeance. It was a long involved explanation the et's gave, but the gist of it was that if those people hadn't been turned around and 'monitored' at that point in time, there could have/would have been horrible disasters in our future. There could even have been a possibility that we wouldn't have survived long enough to make it (maybe we'd have been annihilated by a bomb) to an immense point of destiny that the extraterrestrials were now coming to help us with.

These conversations were SO intriguing. And they really made me wonder about that manna and what exactly were its ingredients. Was it designed/made to sort of mold or change those people . . . ? There are SO MANY fascinating aspects of life that we don't fully understand . . .

"There are more things in heaven and in Earth, Horation, than are dreamed of in your philosophy." Shakespeare, from Hamlet.

[KristenAnn]

Hi Alienhunter. Yes, that was the compelling part. Dan Fry was an unassuming grandfather-type person. Very kind and very genuine. I knew that what he was saying was true.

Yes, Shakespeare was definitely an interesting individual! He definitely seemed to have knowledge deeper than others. Whether he was an et or a "Master", who knows?! . . . Or just maybe there's not much a difference between the two . . .

well Shakespheare was an androgynous ET...so what the hell does he know... :O)

I read one of Dan Fry's books and i did find it a very interesting read...he seemed such an unlikely character to be making stories up though I do believe in some people's minds he has been debunked...I've never seen that material however.

[MilkyWay]

i think arch-demon/demons need human blind faith in their might and power to be able to fake god...if human race witheld it, they'd go down like a house of cards...with god source is quite different - one just feels a quiet acceptance of its' isness...

demons promis immortality, god and souled humans are about eternity.. l

But you ever think about how people just do not care about religion and such. I mean look at the freemasons they worship the devil and their is so much symbolism behind it and even ex-freemasons of high degree says themselves that once you get to high degrees you find out they worship satan. And freemasons have such a powerful control over media, churches, hospitals, banks, etc...

And if you do not realize you will never see that ONE light you talk about and which I understand and love God with all my heart and strive to be a good person on a daily bases, but when you see so many brainwashed people around you. There is just something sad to comes to you that these people don't care for God nor anything what is after this life.

The problem is that so many places these people go to, they tell them make this life the most perfect you can be. Get the best house, best car, act like an asshole don't trust nobody and so on. But in fact the 3 major religions clearly say this life IS NOT suppose to be perfect so no matter how much you suffer your heart has to be with God and God will give you freedom and everything in the hereafter.

So that's that think these people have been tricked for ages and been just brainwashed. So when you do tell them stuff like the freemasons are bad and other stuff they think you are crazy, you are wrong, you are just talking conspiracy.

[MilkyWay]

My sense is that "God" is not an individual. I just sense that we've made a mistake by imagining/conceiving God to be a person -- a great person. My sense is that this Ultimate essence known as "God" is really an energy. It's a VERY difficult concept to try to understand. We like to give human attributes to things.

For some reason I've always been fascinated with uncovering the real truth of life's deepest mysteries. This interest included discovering the REAL meaning of the Bible. I had always thought that the Old Testament practice of sacrificing people & animals was a misunderstanding on the part of the people. That it was a ritual they created. Interesting that this guy who translated the Bible seems to have found instructions for burning victims. . .

I still think of my conversations with Dan Fry. Dan was a contactee in the '50s and 60s. I met him on a trip out west in the late '70s. Dan would tell me the fascinating things that the aliens had told him. For four years before they came to live on Earth they asked him for books from the base (White Sands Missile Base where Dan was stationed at the time in New Mexico). Books on all subjects relating to humans and Earth. They'd teleport, copy the books & have them back the next day. Later they told Dan that the one they found most interesting was our Bible. One thing they said was that their ancestors were often included int he Bible as "angels". They explained that they were working for "God" -- for the force of goodness or Light -- so this wasn't inaccurate. The Greek word "angeloi" means "messenger" or "emissary" -- and they were exactly that: emissaries of the Light/goodness/God. (I explained this all, and other conversations with Dan in my book because it was so intriguing.)

One of the MOST interesting things the aliens told Dan was that it was their ancestors in a small 'carrier craft' that led the Hebrews thru the desert for 40 years. It's reported in the bible that the craft appeared as a "cloud" by day and that it glowed like a ball of fire by night. (Ufos are known to hide themselves in clouds, and also to glow when they're performing certain operations. Perhaps the creation of the "manna" they dropped to feed the tribes made it necessary for the craft to glow at night.

This fascinated me! And I asked Dan WHAT the purpose was of isolating these people for 40 years. His response was equally fascinating. They had told him that they needed to isolate these people until one full generation had passed before allowing them to settle in a town again. It was because those old tribes harbored SUCH powerful negativity, hatred and vengeance. They lived by the motto "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth", a phrase that fueled their sense of vengeance. It was a long involved explanation the et's gave, but the gist of it was that if those people hadn't been turned around and 'monitored' at that point in time, there could have/would have been horrible disasters in our future. There could even have been a possibility that we wouldn't have survived long enough to make it (maybe we'd have been annihilated by a bomb) to an immense point of destiny that the extraterrestrials were now coming to help us with.

These conversations were SO intriguing. And they really made me wonder about that manna and what exactly were its ingredients. Was it designed/made to sort of mold or change those people . . . ? There are SO MANY fascinating aspects of life that we don't fully understand . . .

"There are more things in heaven and in Earth, Horatio, than are dreamed of in your philosophy." Shakespeare, from Hamlet.

I believe the same thing, no way is God a person. So when people are over here telling me Jesus is God, I'm just telling are you kidding me? No way is God a human being, and I totally believe God is this amazing the most powerful energy that no human can understand. And this energy(God) can go in to anybody, anyone, anything because God made everything. Could God have been in Jesus and used him to spread God's MESSAGE, of course IS Jesus God no way! So when people pray to Jesus you are just praying to a dead body that was the messenger of God.



And another thing that surprises me is how other ancient civilizations had awareness of God, WAY before Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc... They thought the same way that 1 God created all of this and this God is the most powerful energy and this energy can sense everything! Like we humans have energy and our energy is connected to the universe and the universe is connected to God. Also this is where karma comes in play too, the saying what goes around comes around well that is Earth it's a big ball of karma it's energy and Earth is full of energy all type of energy which is again connected to God. So God is with Earth and God can sense you're acts and so on. So all this is God.

[KristenAnn]

This is the dialectic of the cosmos KristenAnn.

You will continue to project abominations as to strengthen your wall of individuality. You do this so you can learn it by yourself. So my hat is off to you.

I leave you to your own interpretations Megamud, but they show a lack of real understanding. I've always been a seeker of Truth at its deepest levels.

It sounds about right. The Greys are actually the good guys and the Angelic looking Matreyas are the fallen angels.

Hi Megamud. This is an unfortunate misunderstanding. If you look deeply, without "Christian" fundamentalist bias, into the ancient truths of religion there is only one Maitreya. It is not a race of beings. It is the one very elevated being also known as "Christ". The being who overshadowed the man Jesus during his last three years.
[/QUOTE]
This is a very unfortunate misunderstanding. For one thing Maitreya is one individual. It's not a race of beings. For some reason certain groups have attached the totally wrong meaning to the word. Maybe it's that some are so preoccupied with evil that they mislabel some truths as evil.

I've always sought the deepest levels of Truth. In actuality Maitreya is a very high-level being. It is the ancient soul name for the being known as "Christ". I wish I could convey this understanding to you. Maybe one day you will understand the real truth.

[alienHunter]

Life would be really boring without arguing about religious beliefs...but, it's kind of pointless...Magamud's truth is truth, Kristen's truth is truth...Kristen's truth is a falsehood to Magamud, Magamud's truth is a falsehood to Kristen...

Whose truth is truth and which truth is a falsehood. I defy any human being alive to resolve that issue...with the exception of the Maitreya. :O)

[magamud]

Truth stands on its own merit. The important thing is providing choices on ones path. It is interesting that one of us is following the Devil.
God is not an individual, but the Matreya is?
Your projection of Christian fundamentalism upon me is a misunderstanding I'm sure.
How does your Matreya work in relation to jesus?

[magamud]

Maybe it's that some are so preoccupied with evil that they mislabel some truths as evil.

You are confused upon which is the Devil or which is the Christ. This is not a shameful thing. The Devil is a very good liar and many upon many are going through the same thing.
The important thing is to maintain an open mind and not necessarily listen to the authority of my personal testimony, but to just listen to the truth.