Time Traveler from 1890

[alienHunter]

Hi Kristen,

I'm curious as to how you verified that you transported and had a conversation with your acquaintance. The reason I ask is because when I first experimented with astral projection I told a friend that I would attempt to visit him at his home and poke him in the eye while I was there. I didn't make it to his house but I did have a strange experience that seemed to put me in New York city (after several aborted attempts at getting past the power lines surrounding my family home)

I've had a friend visiting this wk. from Belgium. So I haven't had much time online, and haven't been able to watch the above videos. As of tomorrow I'll have more time. Somewhere in this thread tho someone had mentioned remembering past lives. Yes, this is a type of "time travel" without the body, I suppose. And it's something many of us have experienced.

Just curious . . . this thought brought these other things to mind. Does anyone else find themselves almost "transported" to other times & places by either or any senses of seeing, hearing, smelling etc. something that had once been familiar? Maybe you wouldn't consider it being "transported", but seeing the other time/place etc. where you had once seen/heard/smelled the same thing?

Just wondering. When these things come naturally to you, it's hard to imagine if it's common among other sensitive type people or not. Sometimes it literally HAS been an experience of being "transported" -- to the extent that I actually had a conversation with an acquaintance from this other place and time.

Kristen

[Dorok]

The only solution to my quandary there is that if somebody says they have invented a time machine or method of time travel (setting foot in the future or past) I can then say, "ok how did you work out the spacial tie-in?" If they say "it's alien science" then I can't disprove them - but they have proved nothing to me if they can't demonstrate it so I would therefore classify it as a belief rather than a fact.

They may not have to tell you how it works to be effective. The 'test' is whether or not they recognize it as an integral component.

Regarding the subject of 'proof', I think as far as this thread is concerned, it's beyond doubt that the OP was taken from a fictional story published decades early. There hasn't been anything else yet in this thread factual enough to ask for proof. What you read earlier was an attempt at the 'someone told me so' proof without the courtesy of the alleged facts to go with it.

[KristenAnn]

Hi Kristen,

I'm curious as to how you verified that you transported and had a conversation with your acquaintance. The reason I ask is because when I first experimented with astral projection I told a friend that I would attempt to visit him at his home and poke him in the eye while I was there. I didn't make it to his house but I did have a strange experience that seemed to put me in New York city (after several aborted attempts at getting past the power lines surrounding my family home)

HI Alienhunter. Ya know, it's really difficult trying to explain things from your perspective -- if your perspective is unusual and maybe different than what most other people experience. I just used the word "transported" because that's how it felt to me -- and the word described it well. Maybe the ability or the state of being is the result of my near-death experience as a child . . . ? Not sure. But it's kind of like -- I feel kind of like I'm more "walking between two worlds" than other people. The other perspective would be that I'm less grounded.

But for instance -- especially if I'm in a familiar location. One where I've either been before or that's similar to a place I've been at a previous time. It's had to describe or explain, but I'll try. I'm a very "visual" person anyway. So I can "see" images in my mind. If, for instance someone is talking about a place or location, I automatically picture it in my mind. I guess, from what others have said, not all people do this. But in a case where I'm in a familiar location, I LITERALLY, and very strongly REMEMBER and can actually "see" in my mind the former time. I get clear images of the former people I knew etc. And it's DEFINITELY NOT imaginings. It's remembering -- having clear MEMORIES that I was A PART of. Remembering things I did, people I knew etc. -- like remembering a memorable occasion from childhood or years earlier.

The case where I had the conversation was when the conditions allowed me to enter into that time more completely I guess, when I think back analytically about that instance. I have friends -- a couple -- who used to own a huge hundred-year-old victorian mansion. They had converted their 3rd floor to a temple-like setting, and once a month they'd have meditations. The room would be lit only with a bunch of candles on the floor in the center, surrounded by pillows to sit on. The walls were lined with pictures of masters & teachers from all different religions, and at the far end was a one-step platform with serene things that gave the feeling of an altar. Statues from different religions, a small "altar", tall brass candlesticks etc. and flowers.

We'd enter and the candles would be lit, incense would be burning, and often a cd of monks chanting would be playing. It was on those occasions when twice a sort of inter-dimensional things like that happened most strongly. Tho very similar things happened when visiting other locations in the southwest and in Italy, for instance, when I'd find myself suddenly "there" in a previous time. And in this way it feels like being "transported". It's just the word I use that seems to best describe it.

Ok. So when I had entered this temple-like 3rd floor on one particular occasion, all my senses were bombarded with sensations from former times. The incense was the same east-Indian scent. The serene sound of the monks chanting in the distance was the same. The temple/chapel-like room, dimly lit by only candles with colorful pillows-matts on the floor and familiar objects & photos were there.

When I sat to meditate I immediately -- ok I'll try to explain this as best as I can, and like I said, when this is your way of being, it's not easy to relate it to others whose presence & way of being isn't like this. I'll try to get it across as well as I can. The moment I closed my eyes to meditate I found myself "transported" to another location. Inside another location like that one. There was someone there that I knew, and we had a conversation.

So that's what it was -- that's what I meant.

[alienHunter]

I see what your saying...I'm sure the environment facilitates the experience...I'm not sure, I could do it at all.

HI Alienhunter. Ya know, it's really difficult trying to explain things from your perspective -- if your perspective is unusual and maybe different than what most other people experience. I just used the word "transported" because that's how it felt to me -- and the word described it well. Maybe the ability or the state of being is the result of my near-death experience as a child . . . ? Not sure. But it's kind of like -- I feel kind of like I'm more "walking between two worlds" than other people. The other perspective would be that I'm less grounded.

But for instance -- especially if I'm in a familiar location. One where I've either been before or that's similar to a place I've been at a previous time. It's had to describe or explain, but I'll try. I'm a very "visual" person anyway. So I can "see" images in my mind. If, for instance someone is talking about a place or location, I automatically picture it in my mind. I guess, from what others have said, not all people do this. But in a case where I'm in a familiar location, I LITERALLY, and very strongly REMEMBER and can actually "see" in my mind the former time. I get clear images of the former people I knew etc. And it's DEFINITELY NOT imaginings. It's remembering -- having clear MEMORIES that I was A PART of. Remembering things I did, people I knew etc. -- like remembering a memorable occasion from childhood or years earlier.

The case where I had the conversation was when the conditions allowed me to enter into that time more completely I guess, when I think back analytically about that instance. I have friends -- a couple -- who used to own a huge hundred-year-old victorian mansion. They had converted their 3rd floor to a temple-like setting, and once a month they'd have meditations. The room would be lit only with a bunch of candles on the floor in the center, surrounded by pillows to sit on. The walls were lined with pictures of masters & teachers from all different religions, and at the far end was a one-step platform with serene things that gave the feeling of an altar. Statues from different religions, a small "altar", tall brass candlesticks etc. and flowers.

We'd enter and the candles would be lit, incense would be burning, and often a cd of monks chanting would be playing. It was on those occasions when twice a sort of inter-dimensional things like that happened most strongly. Tho very similar things happened when visiting other locations in the southwest and in Italy, for instance, when I'd find myself suddenly "there" in a previous time. And in this way it feels like being "transported". It's just the word I use that seems to best describe it.

Ok. So when I had entered this temple-like 3rd floor on one particular occasion, all my senses were bombarded with sensations from former times. The incense was the same east-Indian scent. The serene sound of the monks chanting in the distance was the same. The temple/chapel-like room, dimly lit by only candles with colorful pillows-matts on the floor and familiar objects & photos were there.

When I sat to meditate I immediately -- ok I'll try to explain this as best as I can, and like I said, when this is your way of being, it's not easy to relate it to others whose presence & way of being isn't like this. I'll try to get it across as well as I can. The moment I closed my eyes to meditate I found myself "transported" to another location. Inside another location like that one. There was someone there that I knew, and we had a conversation.

So that's what it was -- that's what I meant.

[KristenAnn]

I see what your saying...I'm sure the environment facilitates the experience...I'm not sure, I could do it at all.

Yes, exactly. See, with those particular instances, I was "enveloped" in a total sensory sort of 'overload' that brought the instant recall. The scent, the room lit by candles, the colorful prayer matts on the floor, some familiar faces on the wall maybe, the familiar brass items & maybe altar etc. And then the Sound of monks chanting was SO transporting in itself to me! By "transporting" I mean it just TOTALLY brought me to a memory of hearing that sound before. This is something that happens easily with me. Probably an effect of being maybe less firmly grounded in this physical dimension. Hearing/seeing/smelling something familiar brings an instant memory of another place and time of where I had sensed those things.

This sensory "bombardment" was immediately followed by going into meditation, sitting on a pillow-type 'prayer mat' in front of many candles. And because I immediately quieted my mind with meditation, the full immersion into the other setting came even more strongly and completely -- with intricate detail. Detailed and real to the point where I knew where I was, that I was on an upper floor standing in front of a room. I knew whose room it was. It was all very familiar. I had lived there once. I knew who was in the room and that he was inside waiting for me. And I knew I had to knock on the door, which I did.

So then afterward it left this mystery -- was I projecting my awareness "back" in time? To a previous time? Or was I projecting myself there in the present? The man I spoke to was very old, so it could have been either. It left me with a sense of mystery.

[KristenAnn]

Funny, I just noticed that the moment we had both replied in our last posts, it was 33 minutes past the hour. Thirty-three (and any double number, but particularly with 33) is known as a "master number".

[alienHunter]

Ach Der Lieber... :O)

Funny, I just noticed that the moment we had both replied in our last posts, it was 33 minutes past the hour. Thirty-three (and any double number, but particularly with 33) is known as a "master number".

[KristenAnn]

Just saw this thread again, and it brought some thoughts/memories to mind. And since I'm feeling lazy today (on my birthday ) I'll write a little more before getting going with my day.

Time Travel is SUCH a fascinating thought. I can't help but think that it's been done . . . and then I wonder what may have been altered in the past which has thus changed our present . . . Einstein had found the formula for Time Travel, but he destroyed his notes, feeling that some people would skrew things up.

But when I was little, after an eye-opening near-death experience at age 9, I sensed that there were SO many other facets to life. I'd even, as this little inquisitive kid, go to my hometown library to try to find obscure hidden notes of Einstein. I really wanted to experience time travel.

Some of the 'insiders' who've known about those mysterious Montauk Experiments have said it's been done, and was carried out for years using children as innocent targets who likely wouldn't alter the future. Fascinating subject! AND NOW! I must start my day! Ciao!

[fognoggin]

Heey hope you enjoy your birthday Kristen (fess up, you want to time travel so you can have a lazy birthday every day ).

[KristenAnn]

Hi Fognoggin! Alright -- if you insist -- I'll tell you. . . But first I've gotta explain, and I think you'll have to agree with me -- see, it just can't be possible. There has been some kind of anomaly where I felt thru a rift in time. Understand?!

That said, if you're going by "normal" years and ignoring the 'fact' that I've just explained, 58. But Wait! It simply can NOT be! The explanation above is the most logical. I've simply somehow fallen thru a rift in time.

Heey hope you enjoy your birthday Kristen (fess up, you want to time travel so you can have a lazy birthday every day ).

[fognoggin]

Hi Fognoggin! Alright -- if you insist -- I'll tell you. . . But first I've gotta explain, and I think you'll have to agree with me -- see, it just can't be possible. There has been some kind of anomaly where I felt thru a rift in time. Understand?!

That said, if you're going by "normal" years and ignoring the 'fact' that I've just explained, 58. But Wait! It simply can NOT be! The explanation above is the most logical. I've simply somehow fallen thru a rift in time.

Meeeeeedic! I think my brain has burst.

Happy birthday again?

[Limited Edition]

I know that if I put my hand in the fire it burns, not because of education about heat and its effects on organic matter, because I am occasionally a clumsy oaf. This "experiment" is not only verifyable through repetition by objective testers but through documented examples.
But - it is accepted by most people simply because its been repeated to them often enough, or by so many people, or said by people whose word they trust.
That's oversimplifying it maybe, but I think those of us, me included, that prefer things to be provable before being accepted as "factual" and would rather all else be referred to as theories or beliefs, could do with baring something in mind.

There is lots of documentation of people playing with fire and not getting burned. One of my favorites is the fire yogi of Tanjore.

The Fire Yogi is a 47 minute documentary exploring the journey of a Yogi who has the extraordinary ability to use a unique breathing technique to get into union with Fire. This documentary portrays a rare and unusual Fire Ritual performed by a Yogi from India and the subsequent chemical analysis of his clothing & physical tests that examine this supernatural phenomenon. The Yogi has performed this Fire Ritual for a total of 1000 days over the last 45 years. The Yogi, weighing a mere 94 pounds (43 kilos), has been able to survive on only two bananas and a mere glass of milk with a few drops of water twice a day for the last 28 years. Many aspects of the Yogi are on the edge of unbelievability, while at the same time highlighting the power and endurance of human mind, body and spirit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La5Zx...eature=related

[KristenAnn]

Amazing. He's mastered the physical laws. More proof that the human potential is unlimited or almost unlimited. That there ARE amazing and "magical" things we can do. It just takes a very special ability or level of extreme focus and tuning your mind and frequencies. Sometime these people have been called Magi or magicians.

Interesting. Thanks Limited Edition.

[lightblue]

here's another time traveler - contemporary...sort of.. .hope you don't mind me going off topic somewhat KA...it's only time wise , the concept is the same...his name is michael with a special mission of going back in time to improve the future...he is/was based in 2037..

fantastical...




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[KristenAnn]

Kind of sounds bogus to me. Like a copy-cat of the well-known John Tidor case. Tidor was on Art Bell in the '90s and said he was from 2036. Seems too much of a coincidence that this guy chose 2037. Also, what he said didn't make logical sense.

I still believe Time Travel has been done by those who created the Montauk experiments. Interesting thought about what may have been changed -- if anything . . . We'd never know because all we know is what HAS happened.

[Buck Roger]

Well, the H?kan Nordkvist story is a swedish commercial for future savings. I do not think this particular ad ever run,but similar.

However, time travel is the thing I am most excited about. To investigate. Wouldn?t it be wonderful if something like that exists!

"Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstein

faster then light neutrinos scientist steps down

Antonio Ereditato stepped down as chief of the OPERA experiment. Dario Autiero another OPERA leader stepped down as well.

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

this is their reason they give.

there (may) have been communication problems between a GPS unit and the computer that clocked the neutrinos' speeds.

why did two people step down i bet in a few months or a year these two men will die of some thing keep this. This is huge!


There was widespread skepticism when the OPERA findings were first revealed, and even the leaders of the experiment insisted that they were not announcing a discovery but simply recording measurements
((they had made and carefully checked))
[link to www.csmonitor.com]

two things that it could be anti neutrinos from space or a small black hole in the hlc
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I don't care what this site says it's been found watch this video at cern he even says it and hawking lost the bet to higgs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-universe.html


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hawking radiaion
In 1975, Stephen Hawking and Jacob Bekenstein showed that black holes should slowly radiate away energy
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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this is what john titor said

Miniaturizing the clocks and sensors, creating clever ways to vent x-rays and creating a computer system dependable enough
to calculate the changes required to the field were the main challenges. There are no missing pieces, just missing energy
levels and a few very interesting subatomic particles

he also said some thing about supersymmetric particels E8 x E8, N=7. the only thing i could find is this

[link to web.physics.ucsb.edu]

this is a must read

It is worthwhile to note that the E8 x E8 Heterotic string has historically been considered to be the most promising string theory for describing the physics beyond the Standard Model. It was discovered in 1987 by Gross, Harvey, Martinec, and Rohm and for a long time it was thought to be the only string theory relevant for describing our universe. This is because the SU(3) x SU(2) x U(1) gauge group of the standard model can fit quite nicely within one of the E8 gauge groups. The matter under the other E8 would not interact except through gravity, and might provide a answer to the Dark Matter problem in astrophysics. Due to our lack of a full understanding of string theory, answers to questions such as how is supersymmetry broken and why are there only 3 generations of particles in the Standard Model have remained unanswered. Most of these questions are related to the issue of compactification (discussed on the next page). What we have learned is that string theory contains all the essential elements to be a successful unified theory of particle interactions, and it is virtually the only candidate which does so. However, we don't yet know how these elements specifically come together to describe the physics that we currently observe.


could this be related to obama or bush Our worldline and his are off by 8 years and some things have or havent happend or changed. I think hes real why not?

Are you here now to observe the results of the presidential election?
I would use the word "elections" a bit cautiously. Perhaps it's easier now to see a civil war in your future?
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YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I THINK HE IS THE REAL DEAL HE SAID THIS BACK IN 2000

I am curious… will anyone be upset if Florida's votes are not counted in the Electoral College because of the current "confusion"?

!!((Thousands of African Americans were harassed and denied the right to vote))!!

on election day, in a throwback to the good ol' days of Jim Crowe. "Voters were turned away from the polls because their race didn't match the election supervisor's records. But race isn't even on our identification cards, so why would this be an issue at all?" asked Adora Obi Nweze, President of the Florida NAACP. "I personally had a problem at the polls - I had to be very insistent that I could vote. That happened to me, and I consider myself pretty informed." If even the head of the Florida NAACP was harassed, what about all the ordinary blacks who went to the polls on election day? Police checkpoints were setup to "discourage" black voters from coming out to the polls and poll workers refused to help many black and Haitian voters, many of them voting for the first time. Florida began to enforce a law passed in 1868 that bars felons from voting. How many black people were denied the right to vote for crimes like drug possession - a crime which Clinton, Gore and Bush are all guilty of?

[link to planetanarchy.net]


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The LHC will operate at 4 TeV per beam until the end of 2012, 0.5 TeV higher than 2010 and 2011. It will then go into shutdown for 20 months for upgrades to allow full energy operation (7 TeV per beam), with reopening planned for late 2014
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

it didnt say this befor it said it was going to stay at 3.5 tev per beam at the end of 2012


this is a fun read
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/24010



john tittor talked about this keep an eye on them
http://www.sandia.gov/z-machine/

[pod]

I will not continue a debate on this subject with anyone who has abandoned critical thinking in favor of holding on to stories that they were told.

I hear ya...

[reaver]

And yet, you seem to have a manner of speaking that can also be assumed as condescending as you try and speak softly.

And by the way, you didn't really give any other concepts just what you believe different b/c of secret knowledge that only you have.

Regarding the subject of 'proof', I think as far as this thread is concerned, it's beyond doubt that the OP was taken from a fictional story published decades early. There hasn't been anything else yet in this thread factual enough to ask for proof. What you read earlier was an attempt at the 'someone told me so' proof without the courtesy of the alleged facts to go with it.

THANK YOU

I'm glad someone else can see through... although I'm months late as far as this thread is concerned. Free BS is still BS.

[Dorok]

Now...can we show some integrity as a forum and put this thread in the Debunked column? There are plenty of actual science AND whoo-whoo stories that better illustrate the time travel concept that deserve the Unexplained designation.

[Richard]

put this thread in the Debunked column

Indeed. Off to debunked it goes.

Why this 6 month old thread was revived is not clear but it now resides where it should.

[Buck Roger]

this is what john tittor said back in 2001

I would characterize world politics as two boxers who have just gone multiple rounds and they’re both pretty beat up. I’m sure someone out there wants to kill us but no one is very organized yet. There is a great deal of fear over rogue groups coming across un-launched missile systems, 55 gallon drums of Anthrax or portable nuclear weapons.

Hay guess what is going on in Iran and North Korea?

Iran making anthrax at secret plant
http://www.wnd.com/2012/12/iran-maki...F8WoG8y0G2z.99

AP Exclusive: Photos show NKorea nuclear readiness
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-ex...lear-readiness

im sure Russia will help in some way. We were training them in denver not to long ago

Russians Training to Fight Americans in Colorado ∞ Martial Law Anti-Terror Drills Ron Paul 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRLm9HJ85z0

U.N Small Arms Treaty
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybel...rs-up-in-arms/

My thinking is a false flag attack in the u.s to kick this off thats just my thinking might come as the dollar fails or a nuke with 55 gallon drums of anthrax who knows time till tell if john was right.