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    Breast Cancer

    The sisters...the girls... the twins.

    They have many names

    But half of us have atleast two.

    They nourish , they inspire, they motivate

    There has been much in the news lately in canada about corrupted results from mammograms destroying thousands of womens lives


    Self exams are well taught throughout the 1st world.




    Now I also found this very useful

    1. Itchy, sore, or reddened breasts

    Skin that feels rashy or hot to the touch is one of the telltale signs of inflammatory breast cancer, a rare form of the disease that's less well known than the more common breast tumors. Inflammatory breast cancer may cause breasts to become swollen and irritated or sore. The skin may be unusually red or scaly, or you may notice purplish areas that look like bruising. Dimpled or "orange peel" skin is characteristic in some cases of inflammatory breast cancer. "It looked like I suddenly had cellulite on my breasts," is how one woman described this sudden change in skin texture, which may be bumpy or indented.

    At first, the achy feeling may mimic the soreness typical of PMS, or the redness and itchiness might suggest an allergic skin reaction. But you'll know that's not it if it doesn't go away after a few days.


    Why it happens: In inflammatory breast cancer, which makes up just 3 percent of all breast cancer cases, fast-growing cancer cells block blood vessels that feed the skin. Because red, itchy, hot skin is typical of inflammatory breast cancer, it's often mistaken for mastitis or infection of the milk ducts around the nipple.

    2. Upper back pain

    Although it's not well known, spine specialists routinely look for the presence of tumors, because some women experience back pain before any other sign of breast cancer. The pain, which is typically in the upper back between the shoulder blades, is easily confused with sore muscles, a pulled tendon or ligament, or osteoarthritis of the spine.

    Why it happens: Most breast tumors develop in the glandular tissue of the breast, which extends deep into the chest, close to the chest wall. If tumor growth pushes backward toward the ribs and spine, the resulting pain may be felt in the back rather than in the breast. Breast cancer also tends to metastasize or spread to the spine or ribs, becoming secondary bone cancer.

    3. Nipple changes

    One of the most common locations for a breast tumor is just underneath the nipple, which can cause changes in the appearance and feel of the nipple itself. And nipple changes are often the giveaway for men with breast cancer. You may notice that one of your nipples sticks up less than it used to. It may even appear uncharacteristically inverted or flattened. Many women also notice a decrease in sensitivity to touch, most likely to come to your attention -- or your partner's attention -- during sex. Another nipple change to take seriously is discharge when you're not breastfeeding, whether it's bloody, milky, or watery. The skin of the nipple may become crusty, scaly, or inflamed.

    Why it happens: A tumor in the milk ducts, just behind the nipple or to one side, pushes the skin up around the nipple or pushes the nipple aside. As tumors grow, they may attach to -- and thus retract -- the skin or the nipple itself. The tumor may cause irritation and infection, leading to discharge.

    4. A change in the shape or size of one breast

    Contrary to popular belief, not all breast tumors cause a hard lump close enough to the surface to be noticeable. "Instead of feeling a lump, I noticed that one of my breasts was more oval than the other, hanging down lower and sort of sticking out to one side," says a California woman, who discovered she had breast cancer at the age of 42. The best way to spot these types of changes is to study the size and shape of your breasts in a mirror. Sit facing the mirror and look at both breasts dead-on, then raise your arms, turn sideways, and look from each side. Do both breasts look the same, or is there a difference in size or shape you haven't noticed before? Interestingly, some women spot this change when they notice that one side of their bra feels tighter. Or a partner may notice the difference during sex and bring it to your attention.

    Why it happens: Tissue growth that's deeper in the breast or masked by dense breast tissue may push out the shape or size of the breast without causing a noticeable lump. If you've been told you have dense breast tissue, be particularly alert for this sign.


    5. Pain, swelling, or a lump in your armpit

    You know how the lymph nodes in your neck and throat can feel sore when you have the flu? The same thing happens to the lymph nodes in your armpit, because that's where breast cancer spreads first, by way of lymphatic fluid that drains from the breast. Affected lymph nodes may feel swollen or tender or develop a lump before a tumor is big enough to be felt in the breast itself. Any pain in the armpit area is a sign to check the area carefully with your fingers. A lump under the armpit is likely to be hard and attached to surrounding tissues, so it doesn't move when you touch it. Or tissue may feel thickened and dense compared with the armpit on the other side.

    Why it happens: The lymph nodes in the armpit are the closest ones to the breast and can therefore be affected by lymphatic fluid that drains from the area. As breast cancer spreads, this is the first place it's like to metastasize, which is why breast cancer is staged according to whether it's lymph-node positive or negative.



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    Re: Breast Cancer

    Attacking women, by mutilating their breasts is not a new tactic

    According to John S. Smith, Colonel Chivington knew these Indians to be peaceful before the massacre. Smith witnessed, as did helpless Indian mothers and fathers, young children having their sex organs cut away. U.S. soldiers mutilated Native American women, cutting away their breasts and removing all other sex organs. After the Massacre, soldiers displayed the women's severed body parts on their hats and stretched them over their saddle-bows while riding in the ranks.
    From soldiers in the Congo to the mass Mis diagnosis.

    How do we protect ourselves?

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    Re: Breast Cancer

    When I went to cameroon in 1988.. i was pregnant. I remember seeing billboards advertising baby formula... i was outraged...

    The Nestl? boycott is a boycott launched on July 7, 1977, in the United States against the Swiss-based Nestl? corporation. It spread quickly throughout the United States, and expanded into Europe in the early 1980s. It was prompted by concern about the Nestle's promotion of breast milk substitutes (infant formula), particularly in less economically developed countries (LEDCs), which campaigners claim contributes to the unnecessary suffering and even deaths of babies, largely among the poor.[1] Among the campaigners, Professor Derek Jelliffe and his wife Patrice, who contributed to establish the World Alliance for Breastfeeding Action (WABA), were particularly instrumental in helping to coordinate the boycott and giving it ample visibility worldwide.

    Nestl?'s marketing strategy was first written about in New Internationalist magazine in 1973 and in a booklet called The Baby Killer, published by the British NGO War On Want in 1974. Nestl? attempted to sue the publisher of a German-language translation (Third World Action Group) for libel. After a two-year trial, the court found in favour of Nestl? because they could not be held responsible for the infant deaths 'in terms of criminal law',despite the fact that its aggressive marketing strategy had led to the deaths of thousands of babies who did not have access to clean water with which to mix the milk powder and, who needed the antibodies in their mother's milk as an essential part of their immune system. Because the defendants were only fined 300 Swiss Francs (just over US$400, adjusted for inflation), and Judge J?rg Sollberger commented that Nestl? "must modify its publicity methods fundamentally", TIME magazine declared this a "moral victory" for the defendants.

    The widespread publicity led to the launch of the boycott in Minneapolis, USA, by the Infant Formula Action Coalition (INFACT) and this boycott soon spread to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and Europe. In May 1978, the US Senate held a public hearing into the promotion of breast milk substitutes in developing countries and joined calls for a Marketing Code. In 1979, WHO and UNICEF hosted an international meeting that called for the development of an international code of marketing, as well as action on other fronts to improve infant and early child feeding practices. The International Baby Food Action Network (IBFAN) was formed by six of the campaigning groups at this meeting.


    In 1981, the 34th World Health Assembly (WHA) adopted Resolution WHA34.22 which includes the International Code of Marketing of Breast-milk Substitutes. The Code covers infant formula and other milk products, foods and beverages, when marketed or otherwise represented to be suitable as a partial or total replacement of breast milk. It bans the promotion of breast milk substitutes and gives health workers the responsibility for advising parents. It limits manufacturing companies to the provision of scientific and factual information to health workers and sets forth labeling requirements.

    In 1984, boycott coordinators met with Nestl?, which agreed to implement the code, and the boycott was officially suspended. In 1988 IBFAN alleged that formula companies were flooding health facilities in the developing world with free and low-cost supplies, and the boycott was relaunched the following year.

    In May 1999 a ruling against Nestl? was issued by the UK Advertising Standards Authority (ASA). Nestl? claimed in an anti-boycott advertisement that it markets infant formula “ethically and responsibly”. The ASA found that Nestl? could not support this nor other claims in the face of evidence provided by the campaigning group Baby Milk Action.

    In November 2000 the European Parliament invited IBFAN, UNICEF, and Nestl? to present evidence to a Public Hearing before the Development and Cooperation Committee. Evidence was presented by the IBFAN group from Pakistan and UNICEF's legal officer commented on Nestl?'s failure to bring its policies into line with the World Health Assembly Resolutions. Nestl? declined an invitation to attend, claiming scheduling conflicts, although it sent a representative of the auditing company it had commissioned to produce a report on its Pakistan operation.[23][24][25]


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    Re: Breast Cancer

    Had my first mammogram yesterday after finding a large lump about 3 weeks ago.

    Everyone asks... is it painful?

    Fuck yes... but bearable

    I have to wait till aug 21st to have an ultrasound and a meeting with the breasts surgeon...

    The "C" word... scares most of us.

    No matter how much you read about " most lumps are benign" you still spend all your time worrying...thinking..hoping..

    Fear

    It can rule you

    When i got the refferal for the mammogram.. it was on pink paper..

    It made me cringe.

    "Pink!!??!! dont they know what that represents?"

    I told them how it created "anxiety" ... how at that moment i was trying to gulp down the idea that at 43, i might have breats cancer...

    The receptionist laughed it off and said " oh your the first one to ever say that...hahaha"

    Sigh...

    The medical world really has no clue how to heal people

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    Quote Originally Posted by flower View Post
    The medical world really has no clue how to heal people
    that is why they refer to it as practicing medicine ..

    i hope things go well ..both my aunts had breast cancer .. and they are still alive 20 and 30 years later ..


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    Thank you Odah

    I am glad to hear about your aunts..

    The more i read about other peoples experiences... the more i get angry at how much "fear" is part of this problem.

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    August 21 is a long time to have to worry. Hope everything goes well.


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    Re: Breast Cancer

    When i asked for an earlier appt... they said others were getting appts in january ...


    Not sure if that means im lucky... or.....

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    Re: Breast Cancer

    I had a benign tumor removed from my thyroid when I was 26. I was diagnosed with stage 4 cervical cancer at 28. I know about the worry and fear. I made a permanent track in my kitchen floor from pacing around. I hated going to the doctor for the next 15 years. I think it took me that long to completely let the worry go. Good news is I was able to have two beautiful children in spite of it and had an opportunity early on to do lots of really deep thinking about a lot of things.

    I attended a lecture back then done by Bernie Siegel who was a surgeon and oncologist. Most of the lecture he showed us drawings done by his patients. He required every patient to draw a picture that showed themselves receiving treatment. The pictures were very interesting and he said you could pretty much tell by the picture what the outcome of treatment would be. The pictures ranged from some people laying on beds with rainbows and butterflies pouring into them to stick like lifeless figures staring through a glass window at a patient. .. no one in the picture smiling. Attitude means a lot and the pictures also showed how our attitudes are learned...mostly from our parents by how they dealt with sickness and death.

    I read a book recently about memetics or meme magic that talked a lot about words of power, but more about our social meme concepts and how powerful they can be when placed in art work, pictures or stories. We can learn a lot about our subconscious by doodling.

    I also think that one day we will see the removal of breasts as a form of treatment as being really barbaric.


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    I also think that one day we will see the removal of breasts as a form of treatment as being really barbaric.
    Oh i hope so...



    Thank you for sharing your story


    Positive thinking.. and feeling.. does magical things.


    I would bet the damage caused by the fear of breast cancer does as much damage as the illness it self

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    Hi flower,

    Sorry to hear about your troubles Blessings and prayers for quick solutions and recovery.

    Gee Limited Edition I thought I was reading my own story for a while there as I too had cervical cancer at 28 and then to more cancer scares as they eventually removed my ovaries one at a time >>>>>>>>went into full menopause at 36.

    Flower all throughout those years I just insisted that it will be fixed and I kept trucking like it would be all gone and whalla!! I haven't had a return in now over 30 years Although I have had my spleen, gallbladder. ulcers removed and a few other parts repaired. All these surgeries finally stopped at about age 45 and I often said, just think they won't ever have to operate on me in my old age as there is nothing left to take out or fix>>>teehee............and really I have never been so healthy as in my senior years!!

    Maybe there is something to be said for the Golden Years Congrat's on being an Aunty and a soon to be Grandma again!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Limited Edition View Post
    I also think that one day we will see the removal of breasts as a form of treatment as being really barbaric.
    our current forms of cancer treatment are really barbaric ..poison the entire body to kill the cancer or regress the cancer ..there are so many treatment options right now being surpressed..as stuff is being added to the food supply to cause cancers ..the entire system is barbaric ..

    common treatment regiments in ten years or so will start when the first sign of a problem get detected in home blood tests ..and from there a visit to a doctor with more advanced equipment to figure out the cancer ..will result in injection of nanites into the area of the cancer ..programmed to carry medication to the cancer or early cancer ..to destroy anything there .. followed by lots of natural thearapy options.

    right now cancer is very profitable for research organization, drug companies fda regulator who maake money approving new treatments.. and doctors and medicle staff.. though many invovled are doing it for good .. there is an element who doesn't want cancer cured ..


    there is a lot of stuff coming online once the system hollows out and gets replaced bit by bit.. that will remove many of the causes of cancers ..

    Not to inject fear into the thread but as i mention in the shooter thread.. it's not but 5 years or so until someone smart like this can design and release a virus ..out into the public ..so once that happens it will cause rapid adoption of the counter tech ..including home testing kits ..for everything ..


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    Hmm interesting view of the "future" Odah


    But other then the obvious (education etc) what can we do now?

    I have considered looking into alternative cancer treatments...

    but to be honest...

    do i have the courage to do that?

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    Maybe there is something to be said for the Golden Years Congrat's on being an Aunty and a soon to be Grandma again!!
    Thank you Sandy...

    Good to hear from the "other side" (meaning after the fear )

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    Quote Originally Posted by flower View Post
    Hmm interesting view of the "future" Odah


    But other then the obvious (education etc) what can we do now?
    your not treating the cancer your treating your whole being ..things that make anything better in your life make everything better in your life ..


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    So much to read...

    As i wait for the tests and doctors to get their minds together...


    i read...

    http://www.bcam.qc.ca/content/about-us#mission

    Breast Cancer Action Montreal (BCAM) is a non-profit activist/advocacy group directed by women who have been sensitized to the trauma of breast cancer (affecting themselves or someone close to them) and who are committed—long-term—to erasing the disease.

    The focus of breast cancer research must move beyond its current emphasis on treatment to also embrace a serious search for the causes of the disease and its prevention. BCAM promotes and supports the adoption of the Precautionary Principle as a guideline for action. The Precautionary Principle is a safety-first premise that states that, when there are reasonable scientific grounds for believing a process or product may not be safe, even when cause-and-effect relationships are not fully understood, preventive action must be taken.
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    Re: Breast Cancer

    Bloody Coorporations ...

    Where did the pink ribbon come from?

    In the early 1990s, an American grandmother, Charlotte Haley, began making peach ribbons by hand in her home. Her daughter, sister and grandmother all had breast cancer. She personally distributed thousands of ribbons with cards that read: “The National Cancer Institute annual budget is $1.8 billion. Only 5 percent goes for cancer prevention. Help us wake up our legislators and America by wearing this ribbon.” Executives from the cosmetic giant, Est?e Lauder, and Self magazine asked Haley for permission to use her ribbon.

    Haley refused, saying that her ribbon was not to be commercialized. So the decision was made to go with another colour and pink was chosen. Charlotte Haley’s peach ribbon was eclipsed by the PR machine of the pink ribbon which has now become a recognized symbol for breast cancer. The pink ribbon has proliferated. Attaching it to a product enhances the image of the manufacturer, retailer or sponsor. They make money mostly for themselves and express very little interest in what happens to the small portion that goes to breast cancer agencies.


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    Follow the money...

    Should I buy this pink ribbon product? Who benefits from your purchase?

    How much money goes towards breast cancer programs and services? (Is it a proportion of the sale price? If so, what proportion? Or does the manufacturer/retailer donate a fixed amount for each sale?) What kind of product is involved? (Cosmetics may contain carcinogens or potential carcinogens. Ditto for household cleaning products. Be alert to this kind of double-dealing.)

    Don’t be exploited by companies that make themselves look good at your expense. What kind of research will be supported? Is the money going to a Foundation that funds programs in other communities, but not yours? Will the donation swell the amount going to research into detection and treatment while research into the causes of breast cancer goes begging?


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    Full report on this issue here..

    http://www.bcam.qc.ca/sites/default/files/pink.pdf

    Why is BCAM skeptical of pink ribbon causes?

    (This full length report on this issue is available here.) Breast cancer has become the darling of corporate Canada. From yogurt lids to motor vehicles, the pink breast cancer 'awareness' ribbon is showing up on more and more products. Breast cancer is an easy disease to market since everyone loves to think about, talk about, and look at breasts. Marketing it is even easier when it is seen as a feminist issue — without the politics.
    In the summer and fall of 2004, as an intern with Breast Cancer Action Montreal, I looked into the nature of breast cancer cause marketing in Canada. I found layer after pink layer of marketing campaigns, both national and local, in the search for transparency, accountability, corporate awareness of the breast cancer issues being supported, and potential conflict of interest. The results left me anything but tickled pink.
    What exactly is breast cancer cause marketing? Tri-Marketing, an on-line Canadian marketing and publicity firm, defines cause marketing as "a partnership between a for-profit company and a non-profit organization which increases the company's sales while raising money and visibility for the cause."

    Note that, in almost all breast cancer cause marketing campaigns, it is the consumers' money that raises funds for the cause, not the corporation. The corporation uses the pink ribbon to grab consumers' attention and money while attracting a little more visibility for the cause.
    Yoplait splashes the pink ribbon on the lids of their yogurt pots. However, it is up to the consumer to mail the lids to Yoplait before the company donates ten cents to the Canadian Breast Cancer Foundation. This is a lot of effort (and postage) from the consumer. Most consumers will purchase the product because of the pink ribbon, and then throw out the lid. Cause marketing uses the disease to attract the sympathy of consumers and to get their products to the cash register.

    How much money is being raised through cause marketing — and is it being well spent? These are impossible questions, not only because of the large (and growing) numbers of corporations jumping on the breast cancer bandwagon but also because the money side of breast cancer cause marketing transactions is often explicitly confidential.

    Belvedere International, a company that manufactures health and beauty products, puts a pink ribbon on its Down Under Natural's, Salon Mode, Nature's Basics, and European Formula products. However, Belvedere refuses to disclose the portion of the sales of these products earmarked to breast cancer research, nor will they disclose what specific breast cancer efforts these funds support. Is it because they simply don't know.


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    there is more money in marketing the fight against breast cancer ..than there is in curing it ..with all the money that goes into research and charities.. most women get treated through their insurance ..

    how many women only found the problem because some guy coped a feel a little roughly and it stayed sore long enough to worry ..

    money goes to research colleges to test different treatment and drugs.. the the posibles go to drug companie to develop more and spend what ever money to get them approved whats it like 600 million per drug in the Us ?and most countries have their own approval process ..


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    Great point Odah..

    from the PDF i mentioned above..

    “‘It just doesn’t serve to rock the boat,’ said a scientist at [National Cancer Institute].
    ‘Look, when you’ve got 10,000 radiologists and millions of dollars worth of equipment,
    you give radiation treatments, even if study after study shows that a lot of it does more
    harm than good.’ The physician-administrator said, ‘I’m convinced that for some
    cancers, the survival rates were better decades ago, but don’t tell anyone I said that. The
    official line is that we’re making a lot of progress.’ [David] Greenberg [a Washingtonbased science policy analyst] reported that his interviews pointed to this consensus: ‘there
    is no conscious intention to mislead the public. Rather, there is a desire to sustain public
    support and federal appropriations by conveying a picture of an immensely difficult
    problem that will slowly yield if we spend on it and work at it.’
    No harm in that, Greenberg told one researcher, if it was the only way to get the
    necessary support.
    ‘There’s a good deal of harm,’ the other replied, ‘because as long as the establishment is
    persuading the public that results are being achieved, there isn’t going to be any pressure
    for supporting alternatives to these dead-alley lines of research that dominate the
    program.’”
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    ((((Flower)))) Hugs for YOU!!!

    No matter what anyone says about odds, I hear ya girl, its ok to be scared.

    Like sandy, I had the scary wait and it was all ok (abnormal cells). That's now 20 years ago, it was at that point I made the decision not to take any more tests, mamagramme etc, and not to accept any 'treatments.' That's just me, and not something I am advising anyone. My mother also made the same decision, when she was diagnosed with possible bowel cancer and a treatment program suggested, she said "Nothing more thanks I will take my chances". She is 95 next May and the diagnosis was 18 years ago.
    So just how much is down to attitude I really can't say for sure, but I do know that the unconscious speaks to us in so many ways, take heart.

    "Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to an understanding of ourselves." Carl Jung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    So just how much is down to attitude I really can't say for sure, but I do know that the unconscious speaks to us in so many ways, take heart.
    Thank you dear heart...

    I will take what you are offering.

    So good to hear about your mom.

    I hope i will have your courage to stay true to myself..

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    hi flower,

    I saw this just today but to offer a little encouragement...the vast majority of findings are benign...most women that i know well have been through this...
    Quote Originally Posted by flower View Post
    Had my first mammogram yesterday after finding a large lump about 3 weeks ago.



    Everyone asks... is it painful?

    Fuck yes... but bearable

    I have to wait till aug 21st to have an ultrasound and a meeting with the breasts surgeon...

    The "C" word... scares most of us.

    No matter how much you read about " most lumps are benign" you still spend all your time worrying...thinking..hoping..

    Fear

    It can rule you

    When i got the refferal for the mammogram.. it was on pink paper..

    It made me cringe.

    "Pink!!??!! dont they know what that represents?"

    I told them how it created "anxiety" ... how at that moment i was trying to gulp down the idea that at 43, i might have breats cancer...

    The receptionist laughed it off and said " oh your the first one to ever say that...hahaha"

    Sigh...

    The medical world really has no clue how to heal people



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    don't try to read too much into the way the medical folks treat you...they deal with these things constantly and are somewhat immune to patient emotional reactions...it's all very scripted for them...as i mentioned earlier the vast majority of patients they see for these kinds of tests have no real issues.


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