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    Exercise/Weight Lifting

    Do any of you exercise or weight lift? If not how come you don't do it? If you do then what do you like about it, what point are you trying to get with your body? Also if you guys have questions about exercise and weight lifting feel free to ask any questions and I will make recommendations for you.

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    Re: Exercise/Weight Lifting

    Yeah i lift been lifting for 6 years now, mainly started to become fit, then continued as i was happy with how my body was transforming for the better. Has now become a habbit i guess to go at least 4 times a week.


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    there is a big difference in the strength of my left and right side ..any attempt to weight train has just made the difference worse ..

    when i was 18 I went in the army and during basic and at the start of ait.. my left knee developed petella femor pain syndrom..and then my right knee did from limping ..i have also had multiple muscle strain back injuries and probably compression damage from to much sitting ..

    i need to chase spring around the world and swim in the ocean regularly for excersise .. my body does not like chlorinated pool water ..then i i will take up yoga to meet chicks.. i mean .. for the flexability training


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    there is a big difference in the strength of my left and right side ..any attempt to weight train has just made the difference worse ..

    when i was 18 I went in the army and during basic and at the start of ait.. my left knee developed petella femor pain syndrom..and then my right knee did from limping ..i have also had multiple muscle strain back injuries and probably compression damage from to much sitting ..

    i need to chase spring around the world and swim in the ocean regularly for excersise .. my body does not like chlorinated pool water ..then i i will take up yoga to meet chicks.. i mean .. for the flexability training

    Have you ever tried the sauna's and steam rooms? They usually help for bad knees, bad anything on your body as well as relax and rest your muscles.


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    Have you ever tried the sauna's and steam rooms? They usually help for bad knees, bad anything on your body as well as relax and rest your muscles.
    most of the work i did was on my feet and i was doing fine until my weight went over 180 3 years ago.. now i am up to 250 ...and my weight is do to a hormone imbalance ..as i can sweat in a walk in frig .. so escersize is just very uncomfortable with no reward .. i am not eating the food that lines up with what my soul is used to eating ..

    and for me the weight will come of where i eat correct for me and get swimming regularly and doing physical movement based systems.. yoga tia chi ..or those types ..


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    you have to develop your work out around your physiology with the same way you decide what you eat based on how your body reacts to what you eat ..and both can be more effected by past lives than genetic make up ..

    your physiology is the base for everything .. it effects hormone production which effects moods which effect emotitions which effects how you feel then how you think ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Odah View Post
    you have to develop your work out around your physiology with the same way you decide what you eat based on how your body reacts to what you eat ..and both can be more effected by past lives than genetic make up ..

    your physiology is the base for everything .. it effects hormone production which effects moods which effect emotitions which effects how you feel then how you think ..
    Very true, it has to be a life style but this life style is 1 to 2 hours of max giving up in your day and its only 5 days a week. Which will help you become healthier and live longer.

    Also I used to weight 266 when I was 16-17 but I played football so it was good size. But I moved to Idaho then I lost weight went all the way to 230 then I got lazy and did nothing for 2 years and went all the way to 248. Then in March 21, 2012 I said this is enough because my knees started hurting because of the heavy weight that your body puts on your knees. So I ate right and did a lot of cardio and I lost weight, right now it's going to be 6 months counthing March that I've been active and I've lost 34 pounds, I weight 214 and my goal is to be around 200 pounds. And I'm not lifting heavy to be strong, I'm lifting to good amount but a lot of reps so I can have a good looking body.


    So what I say to you is eat really good bro a do a lot of carido. Get a gym membership, where I live I go to what used to be Golds Gym but now its calle Axiom same place, same machines, same everything just different name. And when you start eating right get on the elliptical machine to run off weight and increase your carido. So once you do that for about a month and you see you lost weight and you're knees feel better get on the stair-master to loose even more weight.

    When you do this machines do not go fast or compete with the guy next to you, just you do you. And don't worry about anyone else because you are the only one that can get the results for yourself no one else can give you the results.


    But remember diet is the most important part about this life style, actually in any life style ha. But eat a lot of fiber so you can feel full all the time and it will not give you the hungery feeling all the time. Also watch your calories, start of with I will only eat 2,000 calories a day then work you way to 1,500 thats where I'm a lot, I'm actually around 1,500 to 1,700. But I take in a lot of protein and fiber to keep me good.


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    Re: Exercise/Weight Lifting

    Quote Originally Posted by Odah View Post
    t ..then i i will take up yoga to meet chicks.. i mean .. for the flexability training
    hehe. Me too! Well that's the plan anyway.

    I busted my heel and was in plaster for a while. My foot/calf/knee muscles atrophied because of the lack of movement and now I am trying to rebuild. I've been bicycling to strengthen without putting strain on the joints and drinking two extra glasses of milk per day with added milk powder.

    My foot wont bend upward as much as it used to yet and I am aware that there could be knock on effects to my posture and other musculature, so I will be trying yoga to improve flexibility and posture at the same time. and to meet chicks

    Any tips related to strengthening the leg/foot/knee appreciated.


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    hitting 30 4 years ago had terrible effects on my weight lol .. that and i went on meds for mood ..and they just managed to kill mky motabalizm .. so i am still recovering from getting of them a year ago ..

    eating correctly is fine.. but again eating right has nothing to do with calorie intake ..are you eating what supports your body the best ..and all calories are not created equal ..i find that i need to cook my own food and my intuition even want me to bake my own bread and make my own pasta from scratch ..as the food i make nearly always makes me feel better eating it.. i have eaten fish more sense i have been cooking it the last 3 months .. than i have up to 3 months ago ..

    I have a wholistic approach to life ..exsersize is not something that should be left to the gym ..but weight testing .. Is to be used to see how much stronger you get between workouts ..my knees don't bother me now but they ain't going to let me run ..and my back is ok without any jarring movements ..

    The problem with conventional wisdom on health and fitness .. is that it assumes everyone's body functions the same .. you need to find methods that are ideal for your body.. and several methods at that ..that you can rotate though to prevent boredom..

    at this point i think i might not be able to get down below 200 ..even if i get rid of my belly fat .. my legs have nearly doubled in size ..and not do to fat ..in the last few years ..and i could probable bulk up a bit more .. i don't really care about the scale .. i will care about moving and looking good ..and feeling good all around ..

    proper sleep has a bigger effect on your weight than how much you work out ..and that is a huge issue for me ..lol..


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    Any tips related to strengthening the leg/foot/knee appreciated.
    strengthening ? sugar pills .. they work to cure almost every illness known to man almost as effectivly as the medications put out for them ..

    and buildings with many floors in your area you can get away with walking up the stairs taking the elevator down then walking up the stairs again..walking down stairs has much more impact than walking up them ..and taking the elevator provide a quick rest ..and if your in a energetic mood you can take two steps at a time


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    Quote Originally Posted by fognoggin View Post
    hehe. Me too! Well that's the plan anyway.

    I busted my heel and was in plaster for a while. My foot/calf/knee muscles atrophied because of the lack of movement and now I am trying to rebuild. I've been bicycling to strengthen without putting strain on the joints and drinking two extra glasses of milk per day with added milk powder.

    My foot wont bend upward as much as it used to yet and I am aware that there could be knock on effects to my posture and other musculature, so I will be trying yoga to improve flexibility and posture at the same time. and to meet chicks

    Any tips related to strengthening the leg/foot/knee appreciated.


    First of before I make suggestions, I would like to know you age and how much stress you can put on your knee? When I say stress I mean how many pounds do you think you can put weight on your one knee or both knees? When you answer I will have suggestions ready for you.


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    strengthening ? sugar pills .. they work to cure almost every illness known to man almost as effectivly as the medications put out for them ..

    and buildings with many floors in your area you can get away with walking up the stairs taking the elevator down then walking up the stairs again..walking down stairs has much more impact than walking up them ..and taking the elevator provide a quick rest ..and if your in a energetic mood you can take two steps at a time

    If he was to do talking he would have to do that routine for months to gain an small result. But with walking it is very healthy for you heart and also walking up the stairs will make you burn fat and add cardio.


    @ Odah, (also this can apply to anyone else who wants to do it)

    I've heard our first people used to eat only 3 major things. And that was A LOT of meat, vegatles and fruit and NO grains any grains at all. Their health was really good and their teeth were is amazing shape and all that came because they didn't eat grains. Back on redicecreations they did an article about this and even talked about how bad grains are for your heart and how if you DON'T eat gains your body will naturally cure any disease, specially heart disease just by not eating grains/bread. So if you do this which you will SAVE a shit load of money in a year and also save money by not buying those sugar pills and also I did a bit research on it and it sounds like it's for women looking to get pregnant (well that was the question being asked on yahoo answers ha. But they also claim that they are fake pills) Here is a better source on them, I just read half the article or less THE LINK honestly it doesn't sound even that specially to me. If you are looking to cure you're self from illness then just do not eat grains. Here is the link on how bad grains our and what our first people ate and how amazing their bodies/mind were:

    THE LINK I suggest you guys check it out and watch the videos as well it has awesome information.


    Also Odah, I would def. try this diet it's amazing and how you just feel in the first 4 days. Also just a quick warning if you end up doing this diet. You're body needs a lots of FIBER so if you can afford a lot of fruit or vegatles buy it and eat a lot of it. Or if you want my suggestion on how to get a lot of fiber and save money then just by one of those Fiber power shacks and use that. Saves money and you get fiber so you can poop haha.


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    49 yoa. If I hold 40 pounds and raise my heels up from standing with both feet flat I can feel discomfort below my kneejoint and below my anklejoint after 10 reps.
    I can only manage the first few steps up stairs by placing the ball of my affected foot on the step above and pushing up but I can walk up steps fine if I put the whole of my foot flat on the next step, so it seems that the weakness is when the foot is bent more than the 90 degree position.

    I can walk the mile or so to get groceries without limping if I focus on not lurching off my "bad" foot onto the good, but I can't do the same with a bag of shopping in either or both hands - so I put it in a backpack and walk slowly.
    I am guessing I don't have enough muscle yet to cushion and protect the joints which is why I've been out on my bike.
    I can't eat a lot of red meat for protein since I have a genetic condition which sucks far more iron out of food than normal which is damaging for various organs, so I eat a lot of dairy, nuts and fish.

    To be honest I've never really been that interested in building strength that much. I used to be a distance runner - athletics and cross-country and I've always had a light frame with decent strength to weight ratio.
    But at the forefront of my mind is that you can't maintain all your strength into your old age, but mobility and flexibility is key.

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    I've been really lazy the last 3 years or so...too many career changes going on...i worked out religiously until then...now i just do calisthenics and walking/stationary bicycle at home...old age you know...


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    Personally I think it is the other way round Odah but I do agree that once in the spiral it has a feed back loop which has a powerfully de-motivating effect. Genetics has a large part to play which makes it more of a challenge for some.
    It sounds to me that you may have a pelvic mis-alignment, (often happens at birth) would it be possible for you to see a chiropractor or even osteopath?
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    your physiology is the base for everything .. it effects hormone production which effects moods which effect emotitions which effects how you feel then how you think ..


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    Personally I think it is the other way round Odah but I do agree that once in the spiral it has a feed back loop which has a powerfully de-motivating effect. Genetics has a large part to play which makes it more of a challenge for some.
    It sounds to me that you may have a pelvic mis-alignment, (often happens at birth) would it be possible for you to see a chiropractor or even osteopath?
    I will be going to a chiro when i have money coming in and after i move .. i know there is a problem with the alignment in my neck..and from multiple back injuries which my spind is not to bad because i refused to medicate and keep injuring it plus .. the problem with the strength between my sides is from the after effect of viral menengiteis ..

    and physiology is the base for how you feel ..yes genetics may have an effect on how you process internally the food you eat .. but there is no genetic reason .. so many kids should be on drugs to make up for the crap food that is going into their bodies and screwing with their moods .. many of the drugs make kids more violent and suicidal .. drug change the bodies chemical response to attemt to get a desire effect in a personality change ..

    to make up for the changes they get by the crappy american diet and lower level of physical activity ..


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    oh and milky way.. you missed my tongue in cheek reference to placebo pills ..when i called them sugar pills ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Odah View Post
    I will be going to a chiro when i have money coming in and after i move .. i know there is a problem with the alignment in my neck..and from multiple back injuries which my spind is not to bad because i refused to medicate and keep injuring it plus .. the problem with the strength between my sides is from the after effect of viral menengiteis ..

    and physiology is the base for how you feel ..yes genetics may have an effect on how you process internally the food you eat .. but there is no genetic reason .. so many kids should be on drugs to make up for the crap food that is going into their bodies and screwing with their moods .. many of the drugs make kids more violent and suicidal .. drug change the bodies chemical response to attemt to get a desire effect in a personality change ..

    to make up for the changes they get by the crappy american diet and lower level of physical activity ..


    What kind of drugs are you talking about Odah?

    And sorry Odah but I don't understand the term 'tongue in cheek' ha.



    Also did you guys check out that caveman diet that it was on redicecreations?


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    in the Us there has been both a huge increase in medication for depression and bi polar disorder .. if you are sad because your favorite dog died you can get put on anti depresents ..at the same time most mood altering drugs also change motabalism rates ..causing weight gain ..and eventually more troubles.. at the same time parents have been taught it is ok to force feed kids sugary juices ..loaded with high fructose corn syrup ..which of course cause or highly aggravates add or other learning disabilities ..

    and then there is injuries .. people get injuries then get on pain killers and keep doing what they did to cause the injury .. ending up just making it worse ..

    and tonuge in cheek ..meaning i called placebos sugar pills ..because generally they are ..so used one definition expecting some to get what i was talking about ..

    and i have read up on the paleo diet.. it's nice and all but we generally did not have mass obiesity untill all the chenmical crap got dumped into the food supply .. i am sure taking gmo grains out of your diet "can " help you lose weight .. but if the animals you eat eat the gmo grains ..


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    the best part of most diet books is the interesting recipies on the back ..


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    The paleo way of eating is very good, we were never designed to eat wheat, its inflamatory! Really grain of any sort, but wheat especially. Oats are about the best grain.

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    bread and pasta made by hand with high quality ingredients .. is much healthier than any carb source you get in a supermarket ...


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    the peleo diet i a diet you have to be kind of wealthy to follow .. grass fed beef .. kinda pricey ..



    learn to listen to what your body wants and pay attention to how you feel after you eat stuff .. i cut down my high fructose corn syrup intake 6 or 7 years ago when i noticed .. the day after i drank a lot of soda i was more prone to head aches and zone outs (hard to explain ) ..now my body is letting my know a list of thing i eat now that i really should not eat any more ..haha ..it has been fighting with me over my large iced coffee i like to have ..and it is starting to rebel against cold cuts ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The paleo way of eating is very good, we were never designed to eat wheat, its inflamatory! Really grain of any sort, but wheat especially. Oats are about the best grain.


    Indeed it is, that is why I would love to be a farmer myself and just feed my animals the best way possible, so they could feed me in return. And I would enjoy amazing quality of fresh air and so many more benefits.


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    the peleo diet i a diet you have to be kind of wealthy to follow .. grass fed beef .. kinda pricey ..



    learn to listen to what your body wants and pay attention to how you feel after you eat stuff .. i cut down my high fructose corn syrup intake 6 or 7 years ago when i noticed .. the day after i drank a lot of soda i was more prone to head aches and zone outs (hard to explain ) ..now my body is letting my know a list of thing i eat now that i really should not eat any more ..haha ..it has been fighting with me over my large iced coffee i like to have ..and it is starting to rebel against cold cuts ..

    Indeed it is expensive, but if you go to a local farm and find out what the animals eat and such you could make deals with the farm by telling him/her you will be only coming to him/her every 2 weeks or month for food depending on how much you buy, but he/she should give you a good deal on meat. This is another way to save money and have a lot of food, I personally think this is the best way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkyWay View Post
    Indeed it is expensive, but if you go to a local farm and find out what the animals eat and such you could make deals with the farm by telling him/her you will be only coming to him/her every 2 weeks or month for food depending on how much you buy, but he/she should give you a good deal on meat. This is another way to save money and have a lot of food, I personally think this is the best way.
    It is all about tuning in to your bodies responce to the food you eat and letting your intuition tell you what to eat ..if you build up your bodies immune system and limit the toxins you intake .. your body can do wonderful things ...pure clean water ..for both drinking and cooking your food in ..it one of the best thing you can start doing ..

    and again if you want carbs .. learn to make your own pasta and bread ..the very act of transfering your own energy into the bread and pasta as you make it with your hands makes it much better for you .. ..this is what i will be doing if i can move soon .. i made the worst looking hand made pasts last week..tasted ok .. but there was a big difference in how i felt after i ate it than ..when i eat boxed pasta..

    if your energy is good .. and more positive .. it effects all the food you handle as you make and prepare it .. boxed food isn't just bad for you for the crap that is in it ..it has very negative vibes from no loving human hands touching most everything in the process ..and most of the good bacteria and germ get destroyed with the "bad" ..and you need to add good bacteria to your system regularly ..

    forget a way of eating based of some diet in a book.. expose yourself to many different foods ..and see how your body reacts ..

    and if you truely want to travel and live around the world .. learning what kinds of food the locals like and how to cook it can be a great part of traveling


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