Results 1 to 11 of 11

Thread: Pussy Freedom!!

  1. #1
    Canada Senior Nexian flower's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2 2011
    Posts
    4,602
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    5,140
    Thanked 9,615 Times
    in 3,327 Posts

    Pussy Freedom!!

    Has anyone else been following this?

    It seems absurd yet... fitting in some ways.

    These girls, members of a russian punk band called Pussy riot were arrested for doing a protest performance at a church, calling on the virgin mary to oust Putin from power...

    Pussy-Riot-on-trial-in-Ru-008.jpg

    They are facing a sentence of 7 years.....






    3 have also been arrested outside the courts.. for scalling walls and screaming .. "Freedom for pussy riot!!!"

    By the end of the first week of Pussy Riot's trial, everyone in the shabby Moscow courthouse was tired. Guards, armed with submachine guns, grabbed journalists and threw them out of the room at will. The judge, perched in front of a shabby Russian flag, refused to look at the defence. And the police dog ? a 100lb black Rottweiler ? no longer sat in the corner she had occupied since the start of Russia's trial of the year, but barked and foamed at the mouth as if she were in search of blood.

    The trial of the three band members, jailed since March after performing a "punk prayer" against Vladimir Putin in Moscow's main cathedral, has been about more than the charges brought against them ? formally, hooliganism motivated by religious hatred. In five days of testimony, lawyers and witnesses have laid bare the stark divide that has emerged in Russian society: one deeply conservative and accepting of a state that uses vague laws and bureaucracy to control its citizens, the other liberal bordering on anarchist and beginning to fight against that state with any means it can.

    The court is dominated by a glass cage that holds the three women ? Maria Alyokhina, who has emerged as their unofficial spokeswoman; Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, whose chiselled features have made her the band's unofficial face; and Yekaterina Samutsevich, who sits in a corner of the cage looking every bit the disgruntled punk.

    After five days' sitting in the cage, some days for 10 hours at a time, the women appear exhausted. Violetta Volkova, one of their lawyers, said they were being tortured ? denied food and adequate sleep. After a week of being dismissed and lectured by the judge, she could no longer hide her anger. On Friday, as the judge, Marina Syrova, denied yet another defence objection, Volkova began to shout.

    Syrova, her glasses forever perched perfectly in the middle of her nose, answered tartly: "You're losing the frames of dignity."

    "Those frames long haven't existed here," Volkova replied, seething.

    According to Pussy Riot's lawyers, Russia has revived the Soviet-era tradition of the show trial with its case against the group. "Even in Soviet times, in Stalin's times, the courts were more honest than this one," lawyer Nikolai Polozov shouted in court. Outside, during a rare break, he explained: "This is one of the most shameful trials in modern Russia. In Soviet times, at least they followed some sort of procedure."

    In one week, Syrova has refused to hear nearly all the objections brought by the defence. One objection claimed that exactly the same spelling errors were found in several witness statements, implying they were falsified.

    The prosecution was allowed to call all its witnesses, mainly people who were inside the church at the time of the performance or who had viewed a video of it on YouTube. They answered questions like: "What does your Orthodox faith mean to you?", "Was the women's clothing tight?" and "What offended you about their balaclavas?"

    One witness said she heard music during the band's performance in the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, although footage shown in court showed the women singing with no live instruments. The music was added later to their viral video clip, "Virgin Mary, Chase Putin Out!"

    "What kind of music did you hear?" asked the defence. "It wasn't classical ? and it wasn't Orthodox," the witness replied.

    The defence, meanwhile, tried to call 13 witness, including opposition leader Alexey Navalny and celebrated novelist Lyudmila Ulitskaya. Syrova only allowed them to call three. The prosecution launched the questioning of all its witnesses with the same question: Are you an Orthodox believer? When the defence tried to ask the same question of one of its three witnesses, Syrova shouted: "Question stricken."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true


    Similar Threads:
    I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me! ~Dr. Seuss


    Cancer does not define me, how i fight it will

  2. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to flower For This Useful Post:

    alienHunter (4th August 2012), Dex (4th August 2012), Healthy Skeptic (4th August 2012), magamud (4th August 2012)

  3. #2
    Australia Junior Member Healthy Skeptic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 28 2011
    Location
    Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Age
    54
    Posts
    6
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    14
    Thanked 15 Times
    in 6 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Quote Originally Posted by flower View Post
    It seems absurd yet... fitting in some ways.
    What do you mean by this?..........HS

    ❝Some people see things that are and ask, Why?
    Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not?
    Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that.❞
    - George Carlin RIP✞

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Healthy Skeptic For This Useful Post:

    alienHunter (4th August 2012)

  5. #3
    Prolific Member alienHunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 6 2012
    Age
    60
    Posts
    1,926
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    5,656
    Thanked 1,773 Times
    in 1,022 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    I don't know if you remember my comments regarding 'Taras Bulba' but Putin is a narcissist trying to recapture the glory days...it's ludicrous. I do wonder about the group's name though. I'm guessing it has a different historical context in Russia.

    Scaling walls is hilarious...somebody needs to knock Putin on his ass...maybe Dubya will volunteer.
    Quote Originally Posted by flower View Post
    Has anyone else been following this?

    It seems absurd yet... fitting in some ways.

    These girls, members of a russian punk band called Pussy riot were arrested for doing a protest performance at a church, calling on the virgin mary to oust Putin from power...

    Pussy-Riot-on-trial-in-Ru-008.jpg

    They are facing a sentence of 7 years.....






    3 have also been arrested outside the courts.. for scalling walls and screaming .. "Freedom for pussy riot!!!"



  6. The Following User Says Thank You to alienHunter For This Useful Post:

    flower (4th August 2012)

  7. #4
    Prolific Member Odah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2 2011
    Posts
    2,550
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    160
    Thanked 2,707 Times
    in 1,420 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Quote Originally Posted by alienHunter View Post
    I do wonder about the group's name though. I'm guessing it has a different historical context in Russia.
    just asume the context you give it now .. is the context it has ..name a female punk band whos role it is to protest authority .. pussy riot ..

    how much more to the point can you get ..


  8. The Following User Says Thank You to Odah For This Useful Post:

    alienHunter (4th August 2012)

  9. #5
    Prolific Member alienHunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 6 2012
    Age
    60
    Posts
    1,926
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    5,656
    Thanked 1,773 Times
    in 1,022 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    WELL! if you insist...
    Quote Originally Posted by Odah View Post
    just asume the context you give it now .. is the context it has ..name a female punk band whos role it is to protest authority .. pussy riot ..

    how much more to the point can you get ..



  10. #6
    Finland Junior Member Pakana's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 9 2011
    Posts
    6
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 9 Times
    in 3 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Who might their handlers be?


  11. The Following User Says Thank You to Pakana For This Useful Post:

    flower (4th August 2012)

  12. #7
    Canada Senior Nexian flower's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2 2011
    Posts
    4,602
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    5,140
    Thanked 9,615 Times
    in 3,327 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pakana View Post
    Who might their handlers be?
    good question!!

    lol


    Putin is "ex soviet spy"

    lol



    I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me! ~Dr. Seuss


    Cancer does not define me, how i fight it will

  13. #8
    Prolific Member Odah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2 2011
    Posts
    2,550
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    160
    Thanked 2,707 Times
    in 1,420 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Quote Originally Posted by flower View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pakana View Post
    Who might their handlers be?
    good question!!

    lol


    Putin is "ex soviet spy"

    lol
    maybe they where just tired of getting handled ..

    most of the higher up in the russian government have heavy ties to the kgb .. it was them who used their networks to strip russia of much of it's assets after the fall of the comunist government ..

    Putin is one of the richest people in the world sense he controls much of russia oil industry .. people where ok with slipping back into a soviet type rule well things where going wel after the contry collapsed in finansially in the late 1990's .. but giving up all the rights they wern't use to haveing.. didn't pay off for long ..

    Small groups of people do not need handlers or and sanctioning from higher ups .. it is real easy to start something and have it catch fire if in todays world


  14. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Odah For This Useful Post:

    Dex (4th August 2012), flower (4th August 2012)

  15. #9
    Prolific Member Dex's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 3 2011
    Location
    Northeastern US
    Posts
    1,243
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    1,924
    Thanked 2,673 Times
    in 977 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Odah View Post
    maybe they where just tired of getting handled ..

    most of the higher up in the russian government have heavy ties to the kgb .. it was them who used their networks to strip russia of much of it's assets after the fall of the comunist government ..

    Putin is one of the richest people in the world sense he controls much of russia oil industry .. people where ok with slipping back into a soviet type rule well things where going wel after the contry collapsed in finansially in the late 1990's .. but giving up all the rights they wern't use to haveing.. didn't pay off for long ..

    Small groups of people do not need handlers or and sanctioning from higher ups .. it is real easy to start something and have it catch fire if in todays world
    I agree that these pussies handle themselves. I don't think they are political tools. I have huge respect for them and hope the international spotlight on this case helps free them. Online petition for their release: http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/sit...ce=W1208EAIAR1

    Last edited by Dex; 4th August 2012 at 15:12.
    Enjoy every sandwich. -- Warren Zevon
    The future is unwritten. -- Joe Strummer
    Let love rule. -- Lenny Kravitz
    Every kind of ignorance in the world all results from not realizing that our perceptions are gambles. We believe what we see and then we believe our interpretation of it, we don't even know we are making an interpretation most of the time. We think this is reality. ? Robert Anton Wilson

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to Dex For This Useful Post:

    flower (4th August 2012)

  17. #10
    Canada Senior Nexian flower's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2 2011
    Posts
    4,602
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    5,140
    Thanked 9,615 Times
    in 3,327 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    the international spotlight on this case helps free them. Online petition for their release: http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/sit...ce=W1208EAIAR1
    Thank you Dex!!


    Handlers.. is such a joke these days..

    I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. Some come from ahead and some come from behind. But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me! ~Dr. Seuss


    Cancer does not define me, how i fight it will

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to flower For This Useful Post:

    Dex (4th August 2012)

  19. #11
    Prolific Member Odah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2 2011
    Posts
    2,550
    Status
    Offline
    Thanks
    160
    Thanked 2,707 Times
    in 1,420 Posts

    Re: Pussy Freedom!!

    Quote Originally Posted by flower View Post
    Thank you Dex!!


    Handlers.. is such a joke these days..
    anyone who thinks they are important enough to have handlers today .. is crazy .. as there is no way to control the information in the system.. your options are to flood it with a tone of miss information .. rather than try to hide what you are trying to do


  20. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Odah For This Useful Post:

    Dex (4th August 2012), flower (4th August 2012)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •