Planetary Alignment on Dec 21st 2012 spells end of Coca Cola...

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..and the start of new era..

“December 21 of 2012 will be the end of egoism and division", said Choquehuanca at a political rally for President Evo Morales. "December 21 should be the end of Coca-Cola. The planets will align for the first time in 26,000 years and this is the end of capitalism and the beginning of communitarianism."

Bolivia's Foreign Minister David Choquehuanaca, standing alongside President Evo Morales, recently announced that on the alleged fateful day for the world, his nation will ban Coca-Cola, becoming the fourth nation in the world to do so, reports Forbes contributor Anderson Antunes.
Currently, only North Korea, Cuba, and Myanmar ban the world famous soda.

Devoid of the caffeinated, sugary concoction, Choquehuanca urged citizens to drink Mocochinche, a Bolivian, peach-flavored soft drink, to quench their thirst.

The announcement, bold and some would say, questionable, almost appears to be intended more as a crowd pleaser than anything substantial. Not only did it fail to mention how the ban would go about preventing the sale of Coca-Cola, it also failed to acknowledge the presence of another similar corporate, capitalist driven giant, Pepsi.

It also may eventually catch up with the Bolivian economy as well. Coca extract, a supposed ingredient in the soft drink (their recipe is notoriously secret), is extracted from the coca leaf, a large part of the Bolivian GDP. Forbes estimates that the leaf represents 2% of Bolivia's total GDP, 14% of all agricultural sales, and about $270 million in revenue, annually.

Coca-Cola isn't even the first (unhealthy) major U.S. corporation to be forced out of Bolivia. Last year, McDonald's was forced to withdraw its eight remaining franchises from the South American nation after more than a decade of stagnant sales, reports the Huffington Post.

A documentary was even made, describing the reasons behind McDonald's failure, called "Why McDonald’s failed in Bolivia." In the video, filmmaker Fernando Martinez concludes that a culturally driven boycott, in the end, trumped a billion dollar corporation.

"Culture beat a transnational, globalized world," said Martinez.

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president of bolivia plans to ban coca cola on december 21st this current year..evo morales is a decsendant of indigionous tribes who devised the famous calendar...i imagine he should know the meaning of "new eras". ...l

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[Richard]

a culturally driven boycott, in the end, trumped a billion dollar corporation.

"Culture beat a transnational, globalized world," said Martinez.

... there is hope after all

[Odah]

haha protectionism at it's best .. ban coca cola to boost the sales of a local soft drink..

capatalism and communism where industrial age systems that no longer work in the poost mass production worl.. the big companies themselves helped to usher in ..don't think any rules passed by developed or not so developed nations will matter any ..

turning corn into ethenol this year and next .. will do more damage to processed food industries that depend on that corn being turned into high fruictose corn syrup ..that a bolivian ban of coca cola...it is all amout which Us lobbying group will have the most pull

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haha protectionism at it's best .. ban coca cola to boost the sales of a local soft drink..

capatalism and communism where industrial age systems that no longer work in the poost mass production worl.. the big companies themselves helped to usher in ..don't think any rules passed by developed or not so developed nations will matter any ..

turning corn into ethenol this year and next .. will do more damage to processed food industries that depend on that corn being turned into high fruictose corn syrup ..that a bolivian ban of coca cola...it is all amout which Us lobbying group will have the most pull

imo doing away with gassy sugar/aspartime packed drinks won't serve as health detriment to any nation...in addition, the so called soda drinks are made with distilled water which draws calcium and other helpful minerals out of your body.....plus, plus - added fizz makes your stomach bloat ... most unappealing...


i understand morales is talking communitarianism (de-centralised model of society) and not communism (centralised model of society).....if you look back it clearly says communitarianism... l


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[alienHunter]

HI LB,

I think the coca was removed in the 1920's...it was good stuff prior to that...i'm sure.

..and the start of new era..

“December 21 of 2012 will be the end of egoism and division", said Choquehuanca at a political rally for President Evo Morales. "December 21 should be the end of Coca-Cola. The planets will align for the first time in 26,000 years and this is the end of capitalism and the beginning of communitarianism."

Bolivia's Foreign Minister David Choquehuanaca, standing alongside President Evo Morales, recently announced that on the alleged fateful day for the world, his nation will ban Coca-Cola, becoming the fourth nation in the world to do so, reports Forbes contributor Anderson Antunes.
Currently, only North Korea, Cuba, and Myanmar ban the world famous soda.

Devoid of the caffeinated, sugary concoction, Choquehuanca urged citizens to drink Mocochinche, a Bolivian, peach-flavored soft drink, to quench their thirst.

The announcement, bold and some would say, questionable, almost appears to be intended more as a crowd pleaser than anything substantial. Not only did it fail to mention how the ban would go about preventing the sale of Coca-Cola, it also failed to acknowledge the presence of another similar corporate, capitalist driven giant, Pepsi.

It also may eventually catch up with the Bolivian economy as well. Coca extract, a supposed ingredient in the soft drink (their recipe is notoriously secret), is extracted from the coca leaf, a large part of the Bolivian GDP. Forbes estimates that the leaf represents 2% of Bolivia's total GDP, 14% of all agricultural sales, and about $270 million in revenue, annually.

Coca-Cola isn't even the first (unhealthy) major U.S. corporation to be forced out of Bolivia. Last year, McDonald's was forced to withdraw its eight remaining franchises from the South American nation after more than a decade of stagnant sales, reports the Huffington Post.

A documentary was even made, describing the reasons behind McDonald's failure, called "Why McDonald’s failed in Bolivia." In the video, filmmaker Fernando Martinez concludes that a culturally driven boycott, in the end, trumped a billion dollar corporation.

"Culture beat a transnational, globalized world," said Martinez.

Please follow Business Insider on Twitter and Facebook


http://www.eleconomista.es/interstit...-Calender.html


president of bolivia plans to ban coca cola on december 21st this current year..evo morales is a decsendant of indigionous tribes who devised the famous calendar...i imagine he should know the meaning of "new eras". ...l

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[alienHunter]

free trade was intended as a global lifting up mechanism but it was bastardized as per usual by you know who. The controllers twisted, squeezed, manipulated, and stretched its legality beyond tolerance and of course, have made fortunes from it while the guy in the street...remained in the street.

haha protectionism at it's best .. ban coca cola to boost the sales of a local soft drink..

capatalism and communism where industrial age systems that no longer work in the poost mass production worl.. the big companies themselves helped to usher in ..don't think any rules passed by developed or not so developed nations will matter any ..

turning corn into ethenol this year and next .. will do more damage to processed food industries that depend on that corn being turned into high fruictose corn syrup ..that a bolivian ban of coca cola...it is all amout which Us lobbying group will have the most pull

[Gardener]

Yea coca leaf was banned in cola drinks, but it is worrying about banning coca cola..............what will we clean the toilet with?

[Odah]

free trade was intended as a global lifting up mechanism but it was bastardized as per usual by you know who. The controllers twisted, squeezed, manipulated, and stretched its legality beyond tolerance and of course, have made fortunes from it while the guy in the street...remained in the street.

It was touted as that but the people behind it always meant to do what they managed to do .. but the long term problem for them is what where isolated population of people who where not able to talk or have contact with each other/cheaply.. now are able to communicate share info ..and coordinate around the world without the over head and the heavy wasteful profit motive the large coorperation have .

there is a wealth vaccume with big business.. when a low cost retail big box shop.. set up a store with hundreds of workers getting paid as little as possible ...the profit that store makes is almost always suck out of the community and sent some where else.. to the hands of the investors who always want a certain profit margin ..

now though with the many tools the consumer has we can easily work around these retail places to get what we want .

the problem with us guys in the street is we havn't figured out how to be global.. and it is very possible ..

[Odah]

imo doing away with gassy sugar/aspartime packed drinks won't serve as health detriment to any nation...in addition, the so called soda drinks are made with distilled water which draws calcium and other helpful minerals out of your body.....plus, plus - added fizz makes your stomach bloat ... most unappealing...


i understand morales is talking communitarianism (de-centralised model of society) and not communism (centralised model of society).....if you look back it clearly says communitarianism... l


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i did look at it and it is clearly an attempt to ban coca cola in order to bump up the sales of a bolivian product ... you can make up fancy words and lable it what you want .. but it is the way it is ..

if your stance is on the negative health effects of gmo corn being turned into sugar ..and fed to you people.. take the stand against both coke and pepsi ..

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For several years Coca Cola has been trying to dispel rumors that their logo read from right to left reads "No Mohammed, No Mecca" in Arabic. Coca Cola has a webpage on its website for the purpose of dispelling this and other supposed myths and rumors. They have been successful at getting high level officials in different Arab countries to speak positively about Coca Cola not being Haram (forbidden by God) probably to keep bottling manufacturers in place and people employed. Arabs, especially in Iraq, are not sympathetic to US corporate interests; but are instead, supporting cola jihad.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2004/08/ha...d-a-smile.html

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i did look at it and it is clearly an attempt to ban coca cola in order to bump up the sales of a bolivian product ... you can make up fancy words and lable it what you want .. but it is the way it is ..

if your stance is on the negative health effects of gmo corn being turned into sugar ..and fed to you people.. take the stand against both coke and pepsi ..

i don't think morales and/or his administration would lose any sleep over local peach flavoured soft drink not enjoying an upsurge in sales as a result of the ban...i think morales is banning a militant multinational corporation (named coca -cola) to protect every bolivian's livelihood - not just soda drinkers/domestic soda producers....who's to say pepsi isn't next? as they say: take one step at the time...

this multinational militant corporation which comes as a soft drink seller at its' front makes it look it's just another market player...i hope you understand coca-cola isn't solely interested in soft drinks selling - which woulld be a topic for another thread..

and yes, even if it's only about likes/dislikes/quality of products, i insist coca cola cannot be a product fit for human consumption..i gave a couple of reasons above...


so acidic, t's good to scrub up you bath tub with tho....all you do is add some bicarbonate of soda to it and watch the miracle happen....seriously...

gardener: Yea coca leaf was banned in cola drinks, but it is worrying about banning coca cola..............what will we clean the toilet with?

[KristenAnn]

Funny, but for decades I've just had this sense that cola products like coca cola & pepsi etc. have been a cause of diseases. I've had this sense -- all I can explain it as is "a knowing" -- that it has created MS (muscular sclerosis) in some people. Several months ago someone sent me the link to an article that THIS IS TRUE! Some research has found that something in coca cola actually DOES promote MS.

The thing is that everyone's physical make-up is different. Some are prone to contracting things that others aren't.

As for Dec. 2012, my sense is that there WILL be some major changes then, but that despite how scary things may seem, it'll be ok in the end. I DO sense that it will be the start of a "new beginning" -- a total new phase or Age in human existence.

[lightblue]

Funny, but for decades I've just had this sense that cola products like coca cola & pepsi etc. have been a cause of diseases. I've had this sense -- all I can explain it as is "a knowing" -- that it has created MS (muscular sclerosis) in some people. Several months ago someone sent me the link to an article that THIS IS TRUE! Some research has found that something in coca cola actually DOES promote MS.

The thing is that everyone's physical make-up is different. Some are prone to contracting things that others aren't.

As for Dec. 2012, my sense is that there WILL be some major changes then, but that despite how scary things may seem, it'll be ok in the end. I DO sense that it will be the start of a "new beginning" -- a total new phase or Age in human existence.

never heard of the MS connection...


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[alienHunter]

i talked to a guy the other day that made an excellent point:

Everybody's physiology has its own cellular locks and keys...anything that is not natural in origin has the capacity to do nothing at all or major damage...made sense to me

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anything that is not natural in origin

What is not natural? One could argue that anything in the visible universe is natural.

[lightblue]

HI LB,

i don't do spanish, but it sounds this is bolivian latest own version of the 1920s drink..this may be what they want to replace coca cola with....maybe someone can translate....

notice that bottles carry coca leeaves on the sticker...





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[KristenAnn]

Hi Lightblue & Alienhunter. Yes, when I felt that it was a sense of "knowing". Can't describe it other than I guess a type of clairvoyant sensing, as a fact -- not a maybe. And yet, I realized that logically it might not make sense to anyone else, so I never mentioned it. Then I got the link to research that showed colas do that Very Thing in some people, triggering MS.

Oh! Right! Turns out it's Diet Coke that they've found this with! My own sensings didn't narrow it to Diet Coke, but actually a large majority of people drink the Diet Coke. Here are some links:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/27...e-consumption/
http://www.ehow.com/about_5195321_di...-symptoms.html

never heard of the MS connection...


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[lightblue]

another interesting report..from what i understood, coca-cola zero has carcenogenic properties...maybe i misunderstood, but the report also says that coca cola zero is not sold in estados unidos....so why would they push it to the rest of the world? personally, i've never seen it anywhere, but then, i never look at soda drinks...

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I am not sure why Bolivia is boycotting Coca Cola. It could be political. I am conditioned to follow the money trail. I think it is interesting that Arabs are boycotting due to political and religious ideas. When it comes to "health, natural, and organic" these ideals can become an even more slippery slope. What is healthy, natural and wholesome to some may be debilitating to others. Personally, I have been in places where I felt much more comfortable drinking a bottled soda than I would have been drinking the local water or partaking the homegrown cuisine. To each his own. I think in a world where a lot of what is really happening, especially in terms of the human body, can be reduced to chemical reactions and electrical impulses, it is amazing that it does as well as it does in spite of all that it consumes.

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I am not sure why Bolivia is boycotting Coca Cola. It could be political. I am conditioned to follow the money trail. I think it is interesting that Arabs are boycotting due to political and religious ideas. When it comes to "health, natural, and organic" these ideals can become an even more slippery slope. What is healthy, natural and wholesome to some may be debilitating to others. Personally, I have been in places where I felt much more comfortable drinking a bottled soda than I would have been drinking the local water or partaking the homegrown cuisine. To each his own. I think in a world where a lot of what is really happening, especially in terms of the human body, can be reduced to chemical reactions and electrical impulses, it is amazing that it does as well as it does in spite of all that it consumes.

you may want to consider the effects distilled water has on human bio-organism

http://www.mercola.com/article/water...lled_water.htm

regardless of culture, biology of humans is not that different ...imo it's foolish to relativise it the way you are doing it here...

we react to various poisons pretty much the same...one may take 1-3 days to die anoteher may last 10 times as long...just an example - not related to soft dlrinks, it's just to illustrate my point...

[Odah]

the empty coke zero bottles going to the recycling place now ..says coke zero is not prohibited in the us ..not saying the stuff is good ..

Again seing the actions of a leader pandering to a group of people in his country who's support he needs so they don't try to remove their part of the country from the country .. while takeing a shot at america ..

as a real shot at or a begining of the end for coca cola .. is wishful thinking .. but there will be major changes in policy in the next decade in the Us as public awareness grows about what is causing everyone to get sick ..er fat

[Odah]

from the 8 years a spent working in food processing .. i can no longer deal with many food additives and many of the flavorings don't fool my taste buds ...and when you know and have handled the ingredients in many products.. and remeber the advice .. don't get this on your skin or breath in the dust ..

high fruictose corn syrup in soda and mant other products gives me bad head aches .. or after consuming to much it's like a bad hang over or something ..and energy drinks over load me and make me want to sleep..

i have been going through caffien withdrawls this week because i gave up my cofee and soda the last week and i need to remove thge artificial sweeteners from my diet..

aspertame was originally invented to make rat poison taste good ..that was one of the things i learned about while making aspertame .

[alienHunter]

I guess, but I wouldn't want to ingest processed aluminum...now natural aluminum, that's a whole 'nuther deal

What is not natural? One could argue that anything in the visible universe is natural.

[Odah]

I guess, but I wouldn't want to ingest processed aluminum...now natural aluminum, that's a whole 'nuther deal

10 years ago actually longer than that i was big into vitamins .. the problem i ended up learning about was that.. a most vitamin pills don't digest in the body.. and most are made from isolates or chemicals that look like a vitamin .. and mos of the stuff on the shelf out there if you tested the pills .. what they clam is in there is probably not in their ..

In most cases processed foods get the vitamins they claim to have from chemical vitamins . which the body does not use the same way it uses the real thing .. and real foods with real vitamins come with other nutrient ,germs, bacterial ,enzymes even viruses that your body needs and works with ..

take milk whole raw milk .. much of the calium migh not get absorbed .. but i have read that it is because the calcium may be binding with th fats in the digestive tract ..

[Limited Edition]

My question was not aimed directly at food, but also directed towards forms of human behavior that we deem as being unnatural. We tend to demonize everything or advocate our ideals. There are certainly poisons that humans as a whole cannot withstand. There are also people who die from eating peanuts. I am an advocate of common sense and doing the best you can in the moment. I try not to push an agenda or my personal ideals. I only speak out when I see other peoples agendas and ideals being forced on me.