Planetary Alignment on Dec 21st 2012 spells end of Coca Cola...

[alienHunter]

Well, i hope you didn't think i was doing that because i have neither an agenda nor any ideals...

My question was not aimed directly at food, but also directed towards forms of human behavior that we deem as being unnatural. We tend to demonize everything or advocate our ideals. There are certainly poisons that humans as a whole cannot withstand. There are also people who die from eating peanuts. I am an advocate of common sense and doing the best you can in the moment. I try not to push an agenda or my personal ideals. I only speak out when I see other peoples agendas and ideals being forced on me.

[Limited Edition]

No, but I was particularly interested in your choice of the word natural since you seem to have a strong science background.

[alienHunter]

On a more serious note...i see your point, i've debated the meaning in my own mind many times...I guess what i meant in this context (really i was just reflecting on what the person said) is that anything that reacts/interacts with our physical bodies would have the capacity to do harm. Anything that we manufacture has a greater chance of reacting badly than what nature has put here (that's actually what he meant, i believe). Really, my background isn't that substantial, i've just spent a lot of my own time checking things out...

No, but I was particularly interested in your choice of the word natural since you seem to have a strong science background.

[Limited Edition]

anything that reacts/interacts with our physical bodies would have the capacity to do harm

IMO, this is the most important statement in this thread. All contact (physical, emotional, mental, spiritual) reacts/interacts with our physical bodies and has the capacity to do harm, but I don't want to drag this thread any further off course. Thanks AH.

[alienHunter]

Hi LE,

i think that's worth discussing...you're welcome to pursue it...i certainly agree with you...

IMO, this is the most important statement in this thread. All contact (physical, emotional, mental, spiritual) reacts/interacts with our physical bodies and has the capacity to do harm, but I don't want to drag this thread any further off course. Thanks AH.

[KristenAnn]

Odah, I forgot hat it was but I heard that the high fructose corn syrup contains ingredients that are terrible. Worse than the corn syrup itself. So this would be what causes the bad effects. It's terrible. Sorry I don't remember the specifics now, but just hearing it made me want to stay AS FAR from it as I possibly could -- not that I've consumed anything with it as an ingredient anyway.

from the 8 years a spent working in food processing .. i can no longer deal with many food additives and many of the flavorings don't fool my taste buds ...and when you know and have handled the ingredients in many products.. and remeber the advice .. don't get this on your skin or breath in the dust ..

high fruictose corn syrup in soda and mant other products gives me bad head aches .. or after consuming to much it's like a bad hang over or something ..and energy drinks over load me and make me want to sleep..

i have been going through caffien withdrawls this week because i gave up my cofee and soda the last week and i need to remove thge artificial sweeteners from my diet..

aspertame was originally invented to make rat poison taste good ..that was one of the things i learned about while making aspertame .

[Odah]

Odah, I forgot hat it was but I heard that the high fructose corn syrup contains ingredients that are terrible. Worse than the corn syrup itself. So this would be what causes the bad effects. It's terrible. Sorry I don't remember the specifics now, but just hearing it made me want to stay AS FAR from it as I possibly could -- not that I've consumed anything with it as an ingredient anyway.

i actually came realized it by accident ..at the food processing job .. i had fallen off a platform 7-8 fet off the ground.. i stepped where i thought i had another foot of platform ..and manage to spin as i fell and land head forst on a concreat floor .. it was the spinning that saved me pretty much fell like a professional wrastler wood.. so short of a bump on the head and slamming my body down against the concrete floor and hurting my back a bit .. i walked out of the hospital hours later ...

but the bump on the head was a bit scary and a few years latter i had noticed personality changes and was complaining about constant headach's that where making it hard for me to find a new job .. but i ran out of money and couldn't afford soda ..and the headachs went away.. id get money and buy soda.. and the head achs would come back .. eventually i dawned on me ..so i cut out the soda and eventually figured out it was the corn syrup ..

but i did find i out i do get small siezures from flickering light ...if say i drive through a wooded area for to big a strech with the sun on my face ..and if i do it after drinking soda.. it is just terible .. no shake or stuff like that .. but my brain explode in pain ..

My intution want me to start baking my own bread .. i have no desire to give up carbs .. but sliced bread in stores is made using high fruictose corn syrup instead of sugar ..and gmo wheat of course ..

[KristenAnn]

Get organic bread. I don't eat bread much but I get Brownberry Health Nut bread & keep it in the freezer because I eat it so rarely. It's not organic, but it's natural & tastes great. Other brands have tried to copy it & have their own "Health Nut" bread -- nothing's as good as Brownberry tho.

Sorry to stray from the topic. As for the high fructose c.s. the horrible ingredient was something so sinister, and again I'm sorry I don't remember what it was, but it totally seems like Monsanto-type deliberate geo-engineering to create certain effects in people. That's how it seemed to me. If only people knew the whole story behind high f.c.s and how bad it is for human beings. Then those commercials came out where a "farmer" is walking thru a field & says hfcs is FINE. That your "body doesn't know the difference" between sugar & that. It's a totally bogus claim.

[Odah]

actually going over the dangers of hfcs in this thread.. if it is an anti soda thread .. is not completly off topic .. the danger is probably from how they turn the corn into syrup.. but again having worked with hfcs ..in liquid or powdered form .. the issue with it for me.. is because when someone drinks a soda ..without eating anything else or with something junky .. the hfsc goes righ into the blood stream spikes insulin and gets turned into fat ..

In my theoretical view it also doesn't react to caffein or other thing in your body like real sugar..and doesn't give any kind of energy boost.. it actually cause lathergy .. so people who consume it have less energy ..

then you get into artificial sweeteners which destroy the bacterial balance on the digestive system and make it harder for the body to absorb nutrients when people eat real food .. and the bad job iy does to the taste buds ..so natural foods don't taste good ..

[pillaroflight]

HI Odah

My intution want me to start baking my own bread .. i have no desire to give up carbs .. but sliced bread in stores is made using high fruictose corn syrup instead of sugar ..and gmo wheat of course ..

Just want to say that it is SO EASY to make your own bread with a bread machine. I used to be against the idea because I was into making bread the old fashioned way--with the manual kneading being an important artistic element.

I have had a change of heart, however, after being introduced to the incredible ease of making bread with a machine. It takes 5 minutes, if that long.

Anyway, Zojirushi is the best machine IMO, and worth the investment. It's so great to have FRESH bread all the time and to be in control of what the ingredients are.

My favorite recipe is so simple:

2 cups lukewarm water
4 cups flour
1 cup rolled oats
2 tsp yeast
2 tsp salt

throw ingredients into machine, turn on and in 3 hours--fresh bread

[Odah]

earlier in the thread it was mentioned that anything that goes into your body can be potentially dangerous .. this is true with anything because your cells all perform complex chemistry .. so anything the affects the cellular process or that your body doesn't have the other stuff available to work with .. will either cause you to deplete some nutrients ..normally calcium ..

The processed food companies all got bough up by the tabaco companies 25 years ago ..and they are well aware of what the stuff they put in the food does to your body and the chemical reactions inside the body ..

[Limited Edition]

earlier in the thread it was mentioned that anything that goes into your body can be potentially dangerous .. this is true with anything because your cells all perform complex chemistry

More simply, everything is earth, air, fire and water reacting/interacting producing change.

[KristenAnn]

Sounds delicious Pillar! I'm just imagining fresh, hot bread -- with these ingredients too!

HI Odah



Just want to say that it is SO EASY to make your own bread with a bread machine. I used to be against the idea because I was into making bread the old fashioned way--with the manual kneading being an important artistic element.

I have had a change of heart, however, after being introduced to the incredible ease of making bread with a machine. It takes 5 minutes, if that long.

Anyway, Zojirushi is the best machine IMO, and worth the investment. It's so great to have FRESH bread all the time and to be in control of what the ingredients are.

My favorite recipe is so simple:

2 cups lukewarm water
4 cups flour
1 cup rolled oats
2 tsp yeast
2 tsp salt

throw ingredients into machine, turn on and in 3 hours--fresh bread

[lightblue]

bolivia's example isn't isolated...i now find that some 3 years ago venezuela banned coca-cola zero... the trend seems to be gaining momentum in latin america..

but not only soda, venezuela already banned cargill and it's after pharmaceutical pfizer

The government this year has seized a rice mill and pasta factory belonging to US food giant Cargill and has threatened action against pharmaceutical company Pfizer.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8094679.stm



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[Omniverse]

I like how they forgot to ban Pepsi. lol.

[lightblue]

I like how they forgot to ban Pepsi. lol.

raises a good question!!! maybe, pepsi is to follow suit...who knows...


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[Akhenaten]

I thought the drink of that region was called Inca Cola, a brand name which connects all the appropriate dots!

[lightblue]

though: "The Coca-Cola Company owns the Inca Kola trademark everywhere but in Peru."...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inca_Kola

i think aztecola or mayacola would make great fiizzy names too...


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[Akhenaten]

Senor Carlos Slim owns the Coca Cola franchise in Mexico.....wonder if he already bought up the franchises for Central and South America - except for Peru. Wonder if Peru drew the line in selling out at the name "Inca"?!

Maybe we should run out and secure those brand names, LB "just in case"! Woah I like the way you think, how 'bout "Olmecola"!!??

[Gardener]

I remember talking to a couple way back maybe mid 90's who had registered hundreds and hundreds of domain names, I couldn't quite get my head round it at the time, wondered why they did it, now I know lol, I sometimes wonder how they did with all that.

Senor Carlos Slim owns the Coca Cola franchise in Mexico.....wonder if he already bought up the franchises for Central and South America - except for Peru. Wonder if Peru drew the line in selling out at the name "Inca"?!

Maybe we should run out and secure those brand names, LB "just in case"! Woah I like the way you think, how 'bout "Olmecola"!!??