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    Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    I knew I loved this guy. "The oil boys run the show." Indeed.

    Many of you will hate this video. Suspicious Observers (SO) makes a sound case for the notion that TPTB are not a single group. Not Soros..Not Rothchilds..HAARP is not evil...(yep, that is not a typo).

    IMHO, almost all of the propaganda and fear porn in the alt media is generated by the oil industry trying to distract, divide and hide behind boogeymen while they fuck away our planet and our future. I'm not saying I know that SO is right or that I know I am right -- just sayin that this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say what my own line of reasoning and observations have been pointing me to for years now.

    It will be interesting to watch the alt media darlings try to take down SO now that he makes an excellent case for their exposure as tools of the oil industry.



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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    I fully agree

    people like their demons and conspiracy wrapped up into nice neat packages

    its the jews
    its the bankers
    its the illuminati
    its the NWO guys
    its the Elite
    its wall street
    its the Rothschilds
    its the Rich

    there are evil people no doubt - and certainly a "cabal"

    and there are pedophile rings and all kinds of corruption and certainly a dual standard of laws and regulations

    but the rest is the result of a phenomenon called "cognitive capture" in which the focus of an idea becomes so extreme that it even endangers itself and it's own existence

    it is happening in epidemic proportions in the medical world, foreign policy, and technocratic institutions globally and has also begun to highly infect the law enforcement sphere

    it has happened over and over when world views in a society have become polarized and people take to the streets (and in politics generally all the time)

    cognitive capture is most prevalent in religious extremism in which an extremist actually betrays the prime principles of peace and love his religion is based upon

    the focus is all wrong and myopic absurdity is the result

    the world is messed up due to a lot of myopic absurdity in which the business model of "winner take all" has become too much of the focus and catastrophe is the result

    cognitive capture is a blind outlook that many have on all sides of the world argument

    education and tolerance has been abandoned for most - and lines are drawn in the sand - those on one side are "us" and on the other is "them"

    you could probably fit the worlds unrehabilitatable evil people in a small theater - while the rest have been "captured ideologically" and would just snap out of it faced with a positive alternative

    my two cents


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic View Post
    people like their demons and conspiracy wrapped up into nice neat packages
    Hmmmm...maybe I'm doing the same when I blame it all on the oil industry. Perhaps this is just my own confirmation bias. I will ponder that.

    Tell us more about cognitive capture.

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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    the alternative media has the same role to the powers that be as the main stream media ...to impart a message of fear and doom .. as long as there has been an alternative media .. there has been a stroy of a comming culling of humanity.. when instead the powers that be instead of letting people starve and shrinking the population found it was more profitable to use oil bi product fertilizers and gmo crops to grow more than enogh food to keep most societies fed enough not to rebel ..

    It is way more than the oil companies.. the new world order wasn't new at all.. but it was the American and european hard on dream.. that they finally had full say over everything that went on in the world after russia fell... it ain't so any more .. it is back to the old world order.. and the western elites are now threatend by the rising power of the chinees and the retrenchement of russia .. .. which is why they havn't been able to easily roll into a stupid war in iran ..

    It is was more than the oil companies ..and they do not have the level of control many are led to believe .. they control the creation of the money supply, the amount of money and with tax systems ..who has and keeps the money , they keep this world running on oil and control the supply and manipulate the price of that oil, and they have gained greater control of the food supply .. via a systematic destruction of local agriculture in africa with the foreign aid system that has been used the last 40 years . and destroying local agriculture in countries where the internal market where forced open by the world bank because of crappy debt systems that hobbled the development of the country .

    the power they have is only valid when there are no options .. so look they have supressed free or low cost renewable energy development.. they are trying to put tradition farmers out of business where they can and arresting people for serving milk the way everyone drank milk for nearly 30 thousand years of history ..then here is the fun part they blame you for the troubles they have caused and make everything cost more ...so you have to work harder to try and stay where you where..

    leaving you no option but to use the money they creat and tell you to use .. there are two groups of elites those elites who control the system .. and those elite who have pooled enough money to force the system to react to them..

    now the key reason for the alternative media.. and the world wide mass media .. is to take your eyes of the fact .. there is another system that has been growing and taking shape ..that has been getting nitted together while the problems with the old system garner everyones attention ..and this other system.. does not offer them the power they currently have and puts more power into everyones hands ...

    free energy can't be held back much longer , the current food system is crumbling but a lot of options are emerging , and as for the money thing ..we are abiout to see something..nifty happen ..


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    for ten thousand years humans have been a certain way ..in a fallen state .. and it is from the human nature that humans collectivly expresses that they have created the system we have now with such an in human social structure .. in many cases we have been told over and over again that human are a certain way.. when it is a flat out lie .

    and most of the pethetic excuses for awakened humans who claim to be aware of what is going on.. but spew vile hatred out against much of humanity .. believing the lies they have been to.. and the lies fed to them from the powers that be .. through the alternative media ..ready to warship at the all powerfull alter of the powers that be ..

    two systems ..many choices to be made ..and you are in the wrong system if you are looking for someone else to make a choice for you that you should make for yourself


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

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    I knew I loved this guy. "The oil boys run the show." Indeed.

    Many of you will hate this video. Suspicious Observers (SO) makes a sound case for the notion that TPTB are not a single group. Not Soros..Not Rothchilds..HAARP is not evil...(yep, that is not a typo).

    IMHO, almost all of the propaganda and fear porn in the alt media is generated by the oil industry trying to distract, divide and hide behind boogeymen while they fuck away our planet and our future. I'm not saying I know that SO is right or that I know I am right -- just sayin that this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say what my own line of reasoning and observations have been pointing me to for years now.

    It will be interesting to watch the alt media darlings try to take down SO now that he makes an excellent case for their exposure as tools of the oil industry.
    Not really. If you pay closer attention to what the guy says, he's not saying that the oil industry are the absolute masters. Rather he's pointing out the huge sway they have, which is not surprising once you realize that controlling the oil industry means controlling one of the main power sources for modern society. He's pointing the stupid exaggerations being made within the alternative media (as I said before, the scene is a three ring circus for the most part) where much of the criticism towards the elite is bother line irrational or they keep their focus on topics which may be real, but are extremely hard to prove. The result in either one of those scenarios is that people spend most of their time doing mental gymnastics with alternative ideas which only lead them to endless labyrinths and that represents no threat for the current matrix.

    He also points out that every now and then (maybe it's more common that most people believe) the elite do shoot each other (metaphorically and literally), but when it is appropriate, they come together because it's good for business. He's also pointing out the laziness of people within the alternative media (something I have done in no kind terms) to actually study something. Most people have very rigid conceptions of let's say the Illuminati or the Templars. Where did they get their conception from? youtube videos and someone like David Icke or Jordan Maxwell... but how many people actually read works attributed to Adam Weishaupt? I'd be lying if I said I have, but it certainly puts things in another perspective.

    These quotes are attributed to Weishaupt: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au...weishaupt.html

    If his work carries this tone, then he'd be far from being the satan worshiper that many within the alternative media claim him to be... and what if the Illuminati have been demonized? this website makes such claim, they even go as far as saying that Weishaupt was a member, but that the founder was someone who came way before him: http://www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/. Impossible? well Crowley is another man who seems to have been demonized by a lot of people who had a problem with a man who was telling people to be free, to expand their knowledge, etc, etc. Even some people within the Alt. Scene think Crowley was a black magician.

    Another subject which is degraded to dooms day nonsense is Symbolism. Which is a huge are of study with many, many grey areas. Yet a lot of people within the scene can only think of a dark satanic side and so the paranoia spreads and people waste their energy trying to find secret dark symbolism in every single Hollywood film...or they will try to find predictive programming in every major film. The most recent one in my memory being the Paranoia people have with the Batman films directed by Christopher Nolan, these people know fuck all about the Batman mythos and fuck all about Psychology so the films must be promoting a police state.

    Take HAARP and the recent storm Sandy as another example of rather unproductive mental gymnastics:

    OK the Hurricane can be politicized, I can see it. What I can't see are strong arguments for the practical application of HAARP to create "Artificial Natural Disasters". I've seen some experiments where people can generate waves within a body of water, but we are talking about a highly controlled environment. I suspect it would take much more energy to pull it off at very large scales.

    HAARP or no HAARP the event will be politicized and be used as a propaganda event. Either people waste their time speculating about HAARP or they get real and address those issues which are in plain sight, like the elite taking advantage of the event to further their agenda.

    Or what about the lizard people theory? and then you can watch these:





    Seems like we have a human problem, not a lizard one.

    But at the same time I don't dismiss every single conspiracy theory as the ramblings of a nut case. Some are really serious. Sure stupid and greedy people at top position is a problem, but an even bigger one are those people who occupy those positions and who are highly intelligent, cunning and bother line psychopathic... and on the other side you also have a huge problem with the common folk.

    You also have to understand that the alternative media is just another market to be exploited (and it has been) by all kinds of people. Very few actually give a damn, while the rest may be delusional, con men or even projects financed by the elite to keep people doing useless mental gymnastics which are harmless to their dynasties.

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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    reaver .. have you vented some of your frustration at all of humanity ..

    in my opinion .. harp can't creat weather.. at most it can change the direction.. or agitate an already weak spot on a fault to increase the severity of a quake that would have happened any how .

    chemtrails are another form of weather modification .. and in my opinion it works with the use of haarp .. but they can not create storms they can only enhance or guide storms already created ..

    people have to recognize their own role in is what is going on ..it is fine to look at what is going on .. but they only have the power people give them ..and those in the alternative community..are the prized sheep of the powers that be .. as with all the ways people get spun around in the media.. they are taught to give so much attention, to the power that be .. and so much more ability .. that they give way more power per member of the alterative media than 20 asleep people toiling away ..


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

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    Tell us more about cognitive capture.
    it is an instance in which the focus of someone's ideas betrays the bigger picture those ideas are based on

    for instance a religious extremist - who espouses a religion based on love and compassion and good will towards others - hates/kills others who go against their religion or blasphemy against it - it defies the religion they stand for and betrays the main principle because that person focus was all off and forgot the bigger picture (Buddhist extremists = WTF!)

    a pro-lifer who is SO against abortion - ends up killing others over the issue

    bankers who are so obsessed with making money that they wreck the economy that grants them the environment to do so

    these are extremes but it can be very subtle yet destructive but basically it is a term that when applied to sociology, it encapsulates to a degree how we serve the system instead of the system serving us like it is supposed to or what was the original intent

    I see it in the alternative media some too - those who hate "the system" and see us a slaves to it - that economics are an invisible form of slavery yet wants the POTUS or grades him on how many JOBS he creates - in one breath JOBS are the enemy then in another they are a criteria for success - a cognitive dissonance created by cognitive capture

    the prevailing attitude in those films reaver posted are good examples of this - the disconnect in the realities that people live - which leads to assumptions made and categories and classifications of people are created to separate - when it is all the same for the most part

    hope this helps

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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    Thank you Odah, reaver and Heretic. I won't have time to respond point-by-point for a bit. I will say this: I appreciate that reaver is saying it is more complex (and I agree), but SO quite clearly states "the oil boys run the show."

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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

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    Thank you Odah, reaver and Heretic. I won't have time to respond point-by-point for a bit. I will say this: I appreciate that reaver is saying it is more complex (and I agree), but SO quite clearly states "the oil boys run the show."
    yeah but that is an over simplified statement.. David ike has been saying the rothchilds have been running the show .. yet So say because the rothchilds areinto alternative energy .. they are getting retribution ..from the parts of the powers that be in control of the oil ..

    it is the same cadre that run the oil companies the banking system.. the food distribution system..and big pharma ..know they use to control what information was available .. now that is impossible ..and they use to controll the stock markets untill 5-10 years ago.. there was long periods of stablity and then an event would happen ..caused by the powers that be.. that they would take massive profits from .. now the system is way to volitile ..

    they dont even control the value of money any more most currency trades are high frequency trade done by computer algorythym .. more and more what has been going on is the handing over of control to computers ..this is being done by everyone at every level of society ... look at the future of warfare .. automated robots actually it is already happening ..

    the powers that be knows thesystem it's control is built on is starting to fade away and be replaced by stuff it cannot control .. just look what it is fighting with every tool..

    I paint a picture of a massive change in the way we grow food.. it has been happeing in it will grow exponentially in the next decade ..the current food system is built for contro.. people who are hungry or who have just enough to eat are easier to control .

    even without free energy being released.. solar panales du to the current growth and advancement curve will be much cheaper than fossile fuel in ten years .

    with cheaper energy water treatment /purification and desalination will be 1/100th the cost it is today .. a few cents a gallon for fresh clean drinking water ..available to almost everyone in the next 10-15 years .

    there is so much reasearch out there on the benifits of eating certain food or just many foods grown in health way.. better than organic .. and over half of illness in the world is caused by unsafe drinking water .. so an increase in the availability of health nutrient rich food ..and plentifull cheap drinking water.. would wipe out much of the illness in the world and threaten the big pharma ..

    most human are disconnected with limited access to the information or resourses that will help them .. by 2020.. the projection are nearly 70 percent of the human race will have internet access and the most widely used currency on the web is free ..much of the work done to make the web interesting .. the people who do the work .. lay out cash to do ..


    the powers that be know what is going on.. and they are freaking out trying to maintain their control


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    first time ever for a double post...yayyyyyy!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    I knew I loved this guy. "The oil boys run the show." Indeed.

    Many of you will hate this video. Suspicious Observers (SO) makes a sound case for the notion that TPTB are not a single group. Not Soros..Not Rothchilds..HAARP is not evil...(yep, that is not a typo).

    IMHO, almost all of the propaganda and fear porn in the alt media is generated by the oil industry trying to distract, divide and hide behind boogeymen while they fuck away our planet and our future. I'm not saying I know that SO is right or that I know I am right -- just sayin that this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say what my own line of reasoning and observations have been pointing me to for years now.

    It will be interesting to watch the alt media darlings try to take down SO now that he makes an excellent case for their exposure as tools of the oil industry.



    Added: on HAARP (not SO) http://metabunk.org/threads/491-Debu...-from-Stanford


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    kind of off the point but certain elements exclaim 'energy independence' based on new drilling technologies such as 'fracking'. Romney in his obvious ignorance alludes to 'horizontal' drilling as the key (an obscurative euphemism for fracking). The reality is that the vast majority of oil sites using that technique are not productive enough to be termed 'commercial' oil producers. In other words most of them produce less than enough to counter-balance the resources put into them. Desperation drives the technology and it is doomed to failure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dex View Post
    I knew I loved this guy. "The oil boys run the show." Indeed.

    Many of you will hate this video. Suspicious Observers (SO) makes a sound case for the notion that TPTB are not a single group. Not Soros..Not Rothchilds..HAARP is not evil...(yep, that is not a typo).

    IMHO, almost all of the propaganda and fear porn in the alt media is generated by the oil industry trying to distract, divide and hide behind boogeymen while they fuck away our planet and our future. I'm not saying I know that SO is right or that I know I am right -- just sayin that this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say what my own line of reasoning and observations have been pointing me to for years now.

    It will be interesting to watch the alt media darlings try to take down SO now that he makes an excellent case for their exposure as tools of the oil industry.



    Added: on HAARP (not SO) http://metabunk.org/threads/491-Debu...-from-Stanford



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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    Quote Originally Posted by alienHunter View Post
    kind of off the point but certain elements exclaim 'energy independence' based on new drilling technologies such as 'fracking'. Romney in his obvious ignorance alludes to 'horizontal' drilling as the key (an obscurative euphemism for fracking). The reality is that the vast majority of oil sites using that technique are not productive enough to be termed 'commercial' oil producers. In other words most of them produce less than enough to counter-balance the resources put into them. Desperation drives the technology and it is doomed to failure.
    fracking is going to be abandoned rather quickly.. yes there may be sites they get a lot from.. but like you say most are worse than dry holes you put more in than you get out ...kind of like turning corn to ethenol .. it probably takes more energy than you get out of it .. and the longe term effect on many engines is to reduce the life span and eventually crimp the efficincy of the engine .. so you get less millage from it ..

    that is why i am a big proponent of an aquaponics boom ..most oil used is used to grow food and transport it and process it.. moving food production close to where the food will be consumed and eliminating the bigest cause of pollution/oil use and use of water ... will put the need for fracking or deep water drilling.. digging up more coal .. into the dust bin of history .

    the worst reason to keep doing something you are doin is because this is the way it has always been done as long as you remember it .. how we grow food .. how we build houses .. how we provide medicle care .. use water .. heck the idea of jobs and employment is really only a concept thats been in thge weastern world for 100 years.. and still hasn't gotten to 5 of the 7 billion people on the planet ..

    There are better ways to do almost everything we do now .. the powers that be work to prevent those change.. and most people are married to the idea that the way things are done now .. is the way they should be done ..


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    ok this is the conspiracy press we work in here .. so looking around at the way so many things are falling apart.. and it seems like governments are not ackting like there is really any kind of future to plan for .. lets just for a sliver of time agree .. that the elites plan ..which they still may be trying to pull off..was to lead the world into ww3 in the middle east.. and wipe away many of the long term problems they where kicking down the road.. with war and destruction and a mass die off of the population .. while they hid in bunkers and we kkilled an ate each other up here ..

    they are still trying for the war in the middle east.. but not getting it .. and the problems we have structurally with debt ,government,and inferstructure ..may have to be fixxed without total destruction.. but the elite are using fracking and other short term solution with long term negative effects ..because they still hope to set the world afire and re concentrate their power ... and put humanity back in there control ..


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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

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    I appreciate that reaver is saying it is more complex (and I agree), but SO quite clearly states "the oil boys run the show."
    Part of the show, not THE show... but yeah they have a big sway in world matters of course.

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    Re: Elites: A Harsh Truth (Suspicious Observers says they are not who most of you think)

    Quote Originally Posted by Heretic View Post
    its the jews
    its the bankers
    its the illuminati
    its the NWO guys
    its the Elite
    its wall street
    its the Rothschilds
    its the Rich
    Personally I call them Human beings...yeah like you and I.

    We are the creators, the gurus and the sociopaths with a mix of everything else inbetween.

    Some have more of these traits than others but essentially we come from the same cloth.

    Imagine if you were born as a Rothchild? or from some nobal aristocratic background, or a Palestinian, a Jew, or from a drug cartel family, Oil barons, etc....

    Generally, (with a few exceptions to the rule) you become a product of your enviroment, coupled with the incredible ease that Human minds are moulded into "whatever"

    The information programmes that get imbedded into your hardware (brain/mind) builds the belief systems, which in turn produce the "perceptions of reality" that ALL Humans possess...wether you suffer from them...or enjoy them, usually a blend of both, is how we Humans are developed into the "what makes us Human" from the elite, to the common man to the poverty stricken.

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