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    Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    Anti-government U.S. extremists who don't pay taxes and ignore requirements like Social Security cards and drivers licenses are on the rise. Called sovereign citizens, some have become violent and the FBI considers them a domestic terror threat.

    Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...#ixzz1MS1HzPX0

    Just a heads up to watch this hit piece.


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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    Hi Irish,
    Have been looking at this type of thing for quite a while, as i'm sure many have. These violent sovereigns are basically like fundamentalists, a true sovereign would never cause any harm unless their life or their loved ones were in danger of death.

    The legal fictions I know all about, also the slavery through debt (or money, if you wish to call it that). Taxes are not lawfull, ID cards of any type are not lawful and you only need a drivers licence, even under statues or acts, if you make money (or notes of debt) by driving, unless you are using a personal conveyance which you have registered with a legal (fiction) body in which case you have formed a trust with that party (also giving the trust the item that you registered) and now must abide with the trusts rules.

    A true sovereign or freeman obeys three true laws:

    Do No Harm
    Cause No Loss
    Be Truthful In All Your Dealing

    love and respect
    gary


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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    The comments on the clip page speak volumes of how people feel. "Socialist Security". Most people know they're paying social security to bomb Libya and they'll never see a dime of their money. And yes, The right to bear arms was not only to protect against invaders but against a tyrcannical government. The portrayal of the people wanting freedom should be separate from the portrayal of those volunteer prime time stars. My humble .02


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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    That is indeed a hit piece, designed to paint anyone that would use a weapon to defend themselves as a crazed terrorist. The reasoning being presented ever so subtly is that no one needs a weapon to defend themselves because the government will protect you. It sounds good in theory, but who will protect you when the government decides to turn on you, once you are disarmed and helpless?


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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    Brady Campaign website: http://www.bradycampaign.org/

    Terrorist slogans, Gun control IQ tests, etc..
    Hmm a former Executive from Dupont works for The National Council to Control Handguns
    1978
    Pete Shields becomes Chair of NCCH.

    1975
    After the murder of his son, DuPont executive Nelson "Pete" Shields takes a leave of absence from his job to work for NCCH, eventually retiring from DuPont to work for NCCH full-time.

    1974
    The National Council to Control Handguns (NCCH) is established by Dr. Mark Borinsky, a victim of gun violence.
    Mission Statement
    We are devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities.

    The Brady Center works to reform the gun industry by enacting and enforcing sensible regulations to reduce gun violence, including regulations governing the gun industry. In addition, we represent victims of gun violence in the courts. We educate the public about gun violence through litigation, grassroots mobilization, and outreach to affected communities.

    The Brady Campaign works to pass and enforce sensible federal and state gun laws, regulations, and public policies through grassroots activism, electing public officials who support common sense gun laws, and increasing public awareness of gun violence. Through our Million Mom March and Brady Chapters, we work locally to educate, remember victims, and pass sensible gun laws, believing that children have the right to grow up in environments free from the threat of gun violence.


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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    My gut feeling is that they are a FBI/CIA/DHS creation, agent provacateurs, if you will. Violent extremists create more reasons to clamp down on our rights.

    "Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives." John Lennon

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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    yes its time to round up u extremists trouble makers


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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    Quote Originally Posted by simgaz View Post
    Hi Irish,
    Have been looking at this type of thing for quite a while, as i'm sure many have. These violent sovereigns are basically like fundamentalists, a true sovereign would never cause any harm unless their life or their loved ones were in danger of death.

    The legal fictions I know all about, also the slavery through debt (or money, if you wish to call it that). Taxes are not lawfull, ID cards of any type are not lawful and you only need a drivers licence, even under statues or acts, if you make money (or notes of debt) by driving, unless you are using a personal conveyance which you have registered with a legal (fiction) body in which case you have formed a trust with that party (also giving the trust the item that you registered) and now must abide with the trusts rules.

    A true sovereign or freeman obeys three true laws:

    Do No Harm
    Cause No Loss
    Be Truthful In All Your Dealing

    love and respect
    gary
    Dear Simgaz,

    This is so true. I have friend who has become a Freeman and followed him through this process. All the teaching of how and what a person needs to do to become sovereign follow those principles especially in all areas of confrontation with the law, courts, etc. Thanks for posting the difference.


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    Re: Sovereign citizens- Are you ready for a hit piece this sunday?

    I watched a vid the other day that stated (by ex IRS peeps) that there is no actual law requiring anyone in the states to pay I think they said federal tax, (is that the same as income tax). Go figure. Didnt have time to check it out tho so could be cr*p


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