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    The big WHY

    My guess, many of those frequenting those pages do feel they are here for a reason.

    What is the reason.. well that is the blurry part.

    I am designer, so I always try to see the building behind the brick we haul here, day after day.

    So, WHY?

    The obvious answer is " to make a change" .. ok, lets go after this ball.

    Why we would want to make a change...

    Short answer would be because this world sucks. We feel it.
    Specifics vary, I guess, but let me list mine

    1. we are not sovereign; we need to live off other beings (plants, animals, people in less developed areas)
    2. there is very little place for genuine creativity - most of energy is spent for moving gears of machine that was here before we got here
    3. we are involuntary forced to be part "of something bigger" (nation, family) and pay for it too
    4. we cannot make our interaction with other people voluntary
    5. the overall game has negative sum, meaning it is finite experience


    Finite, frozen, hardly creative, coercing us to join in games we do not really like .. about sums it up.
    Oh, and do not forget suffering, and many other forms of energy-extortion we encounter day after day.

    Actually we are taught from day one to do not miss opportunity to steal other's energy (even if it is defined in less-harsh words, and given pretty reasons)

    But given above what can change it?

    Again, my own shortlist :
    1. Get personal access to energy, without all the proxies we take for granted (food, oil, electricity)
    2. personal communication/transport capabilities
    3. personal access to self- healing, and healing others (with our own energy, given freely)
    4. creating our own matter and devices out of it
    5. creating a model of just personal interactions


    Given state of affairs in this worlds, none of these goals can be attained (do not joke me about free-energy gizmos - they ain't gonna happen in current world framework - ask Wade Frazier)

    So .. what shall I do to get what I think would change stuff here?

    We cannot really change a thing by dabbling in this material game.

    So we need to find a way to remove ourselves from it - to a point where game is gone and only we remain. And build from this point on - by creating our own space that connects to this world but is not of it.

    Think "loader" program for the matrix.

    And dying does not cut it- we still go back to square one, game programming is intact. Neither are Ego-games that say you can "play with big guys". As long as you accept the validity of the "rules" - you are trapped.
    You are building walls of your prison - first thing is to un-learn that.

    Only way is to pierce the veil.

    Or so I think.

    Anla'Shok lead the way


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    Re: The big WHY

    You are building walls of your prison - first thing is to un-learn that.
    I love being inspired by your thoughts. Great article - great spirit - thank you.


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    Re: The big WHY

    EXCELLENT post Kosh!!

    Really so much of it comes down to being able to see the big enough picture to identify the games, and not only not play them, but create your own. But the games you create [no better worn than "games" at the moment] are empowering and inclusive to all others who also see through the illusions themselves. WAY more to this idea though.


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    Re: The big WHY

    I like the gist of this Kosh. The only way IS to pierce the veil.
    After all whatdo any of us have to loose?

    "Personally, I don?t think there?s intelligent life on other planets. Why should other planets be any different from this one?? Bob Monkhouse.

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    Re: The big WHY

    The obvious answer is " to make a change" .. ok, lets go after this ball.

    Why we would want to make a change...

    Short answer would be because this world sucks. We feel it.
    Hi Kosh, I hear what you are saying. If I could most humbly add - my world doesnt suck. I love my life and appreciate the beauty of it every day. Yes, it gets tough, but it is what it is. I make the most out of what I have and speak to those who are ready to listen and open to alternative ways of thinking and seeing things.

    I come here to see what others are willing to share so that I can continue to grow. I chat with friends and give back to this community who I have learnt so much from in any way that I can.

    I love my little corner of the world - I am happy. Could the world be better, of course. Do I try to make it better, yes of course with what little power I have and what little I am able to give. I hope it makes a difference but it never seems enough - I do what I can.

    Am I awake - Yes I am. Do I get upset with the injustices of it all, of course I do. But that does not stop me appreciating what little I do have.

    I give thanks every day for the opportunity to be here. I see beauty in most things. I love the people here with me and I feel loved. I am at peace and I am calm. This is a truely wonderful place not to be taken for granted.

    I was given a strong message the other night as I was tearing around the universe doing something and probably nothing........... she said most strongly
    "I gave you a clear message. You are here to enjoy your life. Do it"

    I have given up being upset with things that I know in all reality I cannot change on a day to day basis. This decision is makes my journey easier.

    That is not to say I have stopped looking at any possible way to improve the way things are. I am open to all ideas and ways of thinking and will try anything for the greater good of the planet and her inhabitants. This includes meditation, alchemy, and anything else that can induce/project postivity.

    I keep trying and at the same time projecting the beauty and wonderment of life and give thanks for the opportunity to be here. How lucky we are.


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    Re: The big WHY

    NB that is spooky!
    I graduated high school in 1969.
    For grad nite we hired a live band... turned out to be Blues Image!
    The lead guitar player, (singer in video) was a guy named Mike Pinera.

    A few years later he turned up playing with a re-constituted Iron Butterfly, and they did one LP.

    Incidentally, the guy playing the conga in the video is a guy named Joe Lala. He later turned up playing for a few people, Santana for one

    Blast from the past.

    Pinera later was a member of Iron Butterfly, then Ramatam, and, with Bertematti, the New Cactus Band. He also formed a band called Thee Image and worked as a solo artist. Lala became a Los Angeles session player and worked with Joe Walsh and the various manifestations of Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, among others.


    " Life IS mystical! It's just that we are used to it. " - Wolf
    "Life is its own answer" - R. Bradbury, Martian Chronicles

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    Re: The big WHY

    " we are all kosh "

    and maybe, by lucky chance,
    We live by the same How (to,do)
    (why do not matter so much to us)

    So take it easy, or slow, however you grow ...
    or go .....

    - here is another digression or two from me to you, ambassador .

    a trailer from the early episodes


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WiZsLGdjXQ

    - And so it begins
    (the Big Why Not)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok4FJn5lpB4

    and some closer to the plot


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUYeLovwO-M

    ( the minbari homeworld always looked nice, and felt a bit familiar ..)..






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    Re: The big WHY

    We are all here to transform one form of energy into another one ...


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