HAARP in action

[Nagual]

"INCREDIBLE example of HAARP. Looks like an ocean of waves- Edge of Clouds makes a straight line as far as you can see across the sky."



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[FuzzyUK]

Hi Nagual,

This is nothing more than a classic example of a sharp weather front. It has nothing to do with HAARP.

[Modwiz]

Hi Nagual,

This is nothing more than a classic example of a sharp weather front. It has nothing to do with HAARP.

At 58 years of age I have never witnessed this classic example of a sharp weather front. I have seen a lot of cloud patterns recently that I have never seen before. I have been a sky watcher for decades now and I know what is natural. It used to be that 'weather' occurred along fronts, especially storm systems. These days, a look at a national map with show extreme weather nowhere near a front while fronts produce little to no weather because the atmosphere has been 'used'.

Your first post here at Nexus has certainly gotten my attention. I hope you find our unique netizens to your liking.

[silverlightning]

I think it should be possible to do fairly good research in this field. Clouds and they sky have been a favorite subject of painters for 100s of years. They did sketches and thorough studies of the sky, I'll bet most weather phenomena are documented in some way.

[abberline]

strange to say the least , i dont know alot about this stuff , my first thought was covection currents but its to defined and the cloud looks like a photoshop 'pattern fill layer' where a square section of pattern is designed to match up on all sides. freaky...

[FuzzyUK]

At 58 years of age I have never witnessed this classic example of a sharp weather front. I have seen a lot of cloud patterns recently that I have never seen before. I have been a sky watcher for decades now and I know what is natural. It used to be that 'weather' occurred along fronts, especially storm systems. These days, a look at a national map with show extreme weather nowhere near a front while fronts produce little to no weather because the atmosphere has been 'used'.

Your first post here at Nexus has certainly gotten my attention. I hope you find our unique netizens to your liking.

Hi Modwiz,

I don't have an intricate knowledge of weather patterns but I do have some knowledge about radio propagation, antennas, transmitters, and the design of radio telecommunication equipment as a Senior Design Engineer before I retired.

Thanks for your input on the weather phenomena depicted in the video which I note was allegedly taken in Louisiana, June 2011. What I will try and do is get an opinion from one of the TV weather men on this.

Best,
Richard (Fuzzy)

[ZookieMonster]

Hi Nagual,
This is nothing more than a classic example of a sharp weather front. It has nothing to do with HAARP.

I'm glad you feel certain about your observations, Fuzzy. I beg to disagree.

Here's what sharp cloud fronts (also called morning glories) generally look like: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2010/06...ory-cloud.html

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ps: The sooner folks begin to realize that conspiracy is a practical reality and a large part of human affairs (as opposed to the propagandized derogation known as conspiracy theory that the Mastards responsible for constructing this floating hell upon the good Mother Earth ship have coined) ... the sooner the problems can be identified and understood (and solutions can be found). HAARP is a proven reality; as much real as the microwaves in your oven. I don't know what they teach in meteorology schools, but the ideal gas laws (with real gas adjustments) that I learned in undergraduate physics and physical chemistry courses would be hardpressed to explain the phenomenom posted in Nagual's video above. Electromagnetic principles and the broad category of spectral physics appears to be better fit for the task. IMHO.

[Tamara]

Don't bother with the 'weathermen'.... bought and paid for, no different than MSM,,, and
'trained' for this ...
Haarp., etc to the extreme.
Control, control, control.
It's the name of the game. ; )

Thanx Nagual
and
Zookie,,, been watching them all day, 'they' keep coming up with 'new' names for clouds... LOL

[FuzzyUK]

I'm glad you feel certain about your observations, Fuzzy. I beg to disagree.

Here's what sharp cloud fronts (also called morning glories) generally look like: http://www.amusingplanet.com/2010/06...ory-cloud.html

I wouldn't say the clouds in the video resemble 'morning glories'. They are more like Cirrocumulus in my opinion:
http://globe.gov/sda-bin/m2h?gl/clouds.men+Cirrocumulus

But whatever the case, there seems to be some mentality floating about which goes like this:

Strange cloud formation seen>Must be HAARP>No evidence needed>Stick it on Goon Tube for cult followers to crow "YEAH, YEAH"

[ZookieMonster]

I wouldn't say the clouds in the video resemble 'morning glories'. They are more like Cirrocumulus in my opinion:
http://globe.gov/sda-bin/m2h?gl/clouds.men+Cirrocumulus
But whatever the case, there seems to be some mentality floating about which goes like this:
Strange cloud formation seen>Must be HAARP>No evidence needed>Stick it on Goon Tube for cult followers to crow "YEAH, YEAH"

Electromagnetic principles can deliver well-defined lines, e.g. iron filings and field lines around a magnet ... that sorta thing. Thermodynamic principles are not known to deliver well-defined lines. If that was the case, we would see spherical clouds as opposed to the amorphous entities that we do generally see. But because we see amorphous clouds, we would also expect to see an irregular front composed of these amorphous clouds. The height of the highest flying clouds known to man is insufficient to mask the irregularities rendered by thermodynamic principles.

So if electromagnetic forces can deliver and thermodynamic forces cannot ... it's a fantastic state of mind that expects evidence where it is least likely to be found and discards evidence where it is most likely to be found.



ps: Btw, none of the photos at "globe-gov" support your argument, Fuzzy ... for none show the type of defined line that is observed in Nagual's video.

[FuzzyUK]

Electromagnetic principles can deliver well-defined lines, e.g. iron filings and field lines around a magnet ... that sorta thing.

The strength of a magnetic field also drops of gradually outside a magnet if you care to try doing this experiment yourself. The sharp lines are just the result of iron fillings standing up on edge and clumping together - there are no 'sharp lines' in the actual magnetic field in reality; just magnetic field paths.

Likewise electromagnetic waves in the HF band rarely have defined edges if you are trying to imply that the weather pattern in the video is affected by them. HF passes through the troposphere unhindered.

[FuzzyUK]

ps: Btw, none of the photos at "globe-gov" support your argument, Fuzzy ... for none show the type of defined line that is observed in Nagual's video.

Hi ZM,

I wasn't pointing to the said website to prove a point about weather fronts but was using it as a one out of many on the internet to try and identify the particular cloud category.

As I said earlier, the video depicts a sharp weather front, a warm front at that. There are clues in the video indicating the sun is setting in the West and the position of the moon is roughly South. All this suggests a warm front is pushing inland from the Gulf, Louisiana being just over 100 miles from the sea.

http://www.brighthub.com/environment...les/83121.aspx



"Altocumulus clouds can form in fair weather, or they can indicate the approach of either a warm front or cold front. The clue lies in whether the clouds are thin and light or are thickening and dark, and what sequence of clouds, if any, preceded the altocumulus. A distinct edge, like in the picture, is usually associated with a front."

I'll reiterate that this has nothing to do with HAARP and is a natural weather phenomena. Agreed?

[ZookieMonster]

Before we debate what the probable cause of the defined cloud front in Nagual's video is (e.g. whether it is natural or man-made), I think it would be wise to understand what HAARP itself is ... also, what its overt and covert possibilities present to us. The first video explains HAARP in brief. The second reveals an anomalous cloud ring with sharp definition.








ps: We'll get to the bird kills in Beebe Arkansas shortly. I'd like to hear your opinions on that Fuzzy. Is HAARP really that clean as you apparently understand it to be ... that sorta thing.

ps2: Btw, I've not claimed that what's in Nagual's video is the result of HAARP ... or teh result of natural occurrence. I conjectured that electromagnetic principles would have my vote over thermodynamic principles unless otherwise evidenced. So I've left myself open to the possibility of being proven wrong. But let's see where the evidence takes us.

[Fred259]

It’s a fallstreak cloud sometimes called a punch cloud.


Zookie, could it be I wonder that the cloud in the Nagual video has been caused by EMF from the Ley line that runs through Louisiana?

[knapsack]

Here's another image of altocumulus undulatus, often called 'mackerel sky' by mariners:


Source:
http://www.theairlinepilots.com/met/...Mackerel%20Sky


I don't know the exact day of the video, but the uploader lists the date captured as June 2011 from Shreveport, LA.

There were a number of days where Shreveport was covered in these type of clouds, but of particular interest are the days between 6-16 and 6-18.

Here's the capture from MODIS Today on 6-17-2011


Source: MODIS Today (Aqua) 6-17-2011
http://ge.ssec.wisc.edu/modis-today/index.php

I don't know exact times when the satellite photos and youtube video were taken, but you can see clear sky, followed by a straight-line (from the perspective of someone on the ground) formation SE of the yellow dot (roughly where Shreveport is).

If you look at all the days in June, you will notice these patterns are not uncommon to this area, the differences are really only in the thickness, and the amount of haze above.

[ZookieMonster]

Hi ZM,

I wasn't pointing to the said website to prove a point about weather fronts but was using it as a one out of many on the internet to try and identify the particular cloud category.

As I said earlier, the video depicts a sharp weather front, a warm front at that. There are clues in the video indicating the sun is setting in the West and the position of the moon is roughly South. All this suggests a warm front is pushing inland from the Gulf, Louisiana being just over 100 miles from the sea.

http://www.brighthub.com/environment...les/83121.aspx
[...]
"Altocumulus clouds can form in fair weather, or they can indicate the approach of either a warm front or cold front. The clue lies in whether the clouds are thin and light or are thickening and dark, and what sequence of clouds, if any, preceded the altocumulus. A distinct edge, like in the picture, is usually associated with a front."

I'll reiterate that this has nothing to do with HAARP and is a natural weather phenomena. Agreed?

I concede the point, Fuzzy.

I still think electromagnetic principles are involved in the cloud pattern (in Nagual's video) ... but probably naturally occurring electromagnetism as opposed to HAARP. The ripples in the opening video have a wavelike pattern to them. Waveforms are more conducive to electromagnetic principles than thermodynamic principles; the pattern, then, may be the result of these principles acting naturally in the high atmosphere where the Earth's magnetic field may be prominently involved (I don't think these patterns are evident in the lower atmosphere and low-flying clouds). The only other explanation I can think of is diffraction. When we did diffraction experiments in high school, we used light or water as the media ... perhaps there is something similar going on with air as the carrying media??

Like I said, your evidence is better than mine ... so I concede the point.

[Fred259]

Maybe the video is taken at the coast. I wonder if it’s a high pressure system with air descending from the Hadley cell condensing out at altitude to form cloud over the land but not over the sea. The temp at altitude over the sea will be different compared with the same altitude over land, and so cloud will form over land but not sea.

ZM…given you have researched free energy, do you think that the earth’s electromagnetism is connected with free energy? I am preparing a post on this at the moment and have much to ask, and a bit to share.