Making a Killing - MUST WATCH

[VajraYaya]

This is a bit of an attempt to reconstruct what I thought was an interesting thread, and which I wrote a long response to. I don't remember who originally started it but... Here is the video again.



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[Ross]

Thank you VV...

Well done.

Ross

[Going by]

That was a good thread, but i did not keep my posts, I often write directly. Well, I will go with inspiration based on other writers.

I don' t know if Skjtd will be as passionate and adamant about the topic, to better stir our input. Please, be.

[VajraYaya]

Now I'm posting my earlier response

Okay..

I have a lot to add here.

First.. There are quite a few documentaries of this type that have been floating around for years. I have not yet completely watched this one. I watched parts but skipped to the end to find out who produced it. I will watch it completely later. While I agree that everything in that video is true, keep in mind that it was produced by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, an arm of the Church of Scientology. Yup, the cult of Scientology is pure BS but these docs do have value for what they say. One might also want to check on the backgrounds of all the people interviewed in the video to see if they are part of the Church of Scientology. Not all are, Mike Adams for one. That alone thought does not negate what they are saying.

http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/12.htm

Psychiatry is pretty much quackery. They cannot diagnose anything nor can they heal or cure anything. Most of the conditions that they fill the DSM with are merely inventions decided by committee, these days, designed to sell drugs. Some of these idiots these days even claim that they can diagnose mental illness in-utero!

The biggest problem with the sciences and scientists that study mental illnesses is that they operate from a purely materialistic perspective. These researchers are not yet aware of the non-physical aspect of all that is, as well as their own non-local and non-physical aspects. This perspective leads them to assume that neurochemicals are the cause of mental conditions. What if the presence or absence of these neurochemicals is the RESULT of mental or other environmental conditions whether physical or non-physical? What if a neurochemical appears or is active or moves in a certain way as the result of information received from non-local sources, which then causes certain conditions to manifest. Then introducing pharmaceuticals to manipulate the chemical conditions, without understanding the bigger picture, cures nothing but only creates larger problems. Indeed people I have known who are on various psychoactive drugs [I have no firsthand experience with them myself..] talk about how they feel less real, less conscious, less human, foggy, like their soul has been taken away.

I believe that the brain is not the seat or source of intelligence or controller of anything, but a receiver or transceiver. What if thought does not occur in the brain or emotion does not arise in the brain, but arises through a constant interplay between the physical and the higher non-physical self? Our cells and neural tissues are transducers of etheric energy and translate it into physical, manifest realm experiences. Indeed all the organs and tissues of the body are transducers of non-physical information. Notice how you can have gut feelings, or physically feel a broken heart. This information is not filtered through the brain first but is experienced in those organs directly. Practitioners of body centered psychotherapies such as Focusing or Rubenfeld Synergy, understand that emotion and trauma are stored in muscle tissues, and use a combination of talk therapy and simultaneously moving a client’s limbs to release those traumas. PTSD responds very quickly to therapies like these.

To get to this point in research, the researchers would have to either start having experiences of their own larger nature or at least start having intuitions about the larger reality beyond the physical, before they will be able to advance the sciences in any meaningful way. Then science becomes even more clearly spiritual.

Indeed psychology and spirituality are extremely intimately connected. Most psychological issues are really spiritual issues and any therapy or therapist must take spirituality into account when working with a client. They should act as a coach and spiritual advisor and should understand that a large part of any therapeutic process is to help guide spiritual evolution.

But, on to the material world.

These days, anti-depressants are doled out willy-nilly by GPs without any thought toward any kind of relevant therapist or without doing any physical tests or really even listening to a patient. I had a friend who was on anti-depressants for years. While on these drugs she just got worse. She would lie in bed for days feeling utterly empty. She didn’t work for years and got evicted from a couple of apartments. Several times I would get the 2AM phone call from her with a rope around her neck. Finally she told me that her favorite thing to eat was soy cheese. She was eating tons of it and drinking lots of soy milk. I told her it was depressing her thyroid, to stop consuming soy of any kind and go to her doctor and have her thyroid tested, which is what should automatically happen before anyone is prescribed ANY anti-depressant.

Sure enough she was quite hypo-thyroid, was given a thyroid med to level it out, but the doc was reluctant to take her off the SSRIs. She had been on several over the years. I told her to demand that the guy start weaning her of them. He resisted but finally gave in. This illustrates how doctors have been brainwashed by pharma into believing that once started these drugs have to be continued for life. She said the biggest thing she noticed immediately was that she would have orgasms while riding the bus. She had been sexually dead for years. Now, she met and married a great guy, got her masters degree, is physically fit and is having a powerful creative life.

Anti-depressants are only as effective as placebo and in some cases, less so.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029246_an...ugs_fraud.html

ADD/ADHD

This doesn’t exist. It is an invention created by the psych and schooling industries to try to further compress non-compliant kids into that little round hole. Now using extremely powerful anti-psychotic drugs that cause heavy damage to kid’s bodies including artery wall thickening and early heart disease.

What is called ADD/ADHD is really influenced by a whole lot of factors. Kids parked slack-jawed for far too long in front of the brainwashing machine or video games that are rewiring their brains.. [Who hasn’t watched really energetic kids hypnotized by the box only to start bouncing off the walls when a commercial comes on.], artificial chemicals in artificial non- nutrition containing foods, consuming overly hybridized industrial and often GM wheat and other products that cause gut problems, micromanaged play times in the form of overly structures activities or [shudder] ‘playdates’, rather than free time outside running around the neighborhood with friends or alone. But mostly kids really need to learn, and the way schooling is set up does not feed these energies and tries to suppress so much that is a kids true nature and they just resist.

I was fortunate in that I was in school before this fad of diagnosis started. Today I would definitely have been called ADD, although I know that my mother would never have allowed me to be medicated. For most of my school career my parents were told of my ‘problem’ of daydreaming and not paying attention. It was only when I was in my 30s that I learned that the ‘daydreaming’ that I was doing then was actually a form of meditation. I was also creating complex worlds that are now finding their way into larger expression in this world. I never ‘failed’ anything, but I got FAR more out of my daydreaming then I ever did out of any class.


While I do believe that psychoactive meds can be useful for the short term in acute circumstances, there are many ways to deal with various conditions.

I have a feeling that certain mental illnesses could be the result of a person experiencing a kind of thinning of the veil between this physical reality and other higher aspects.

Dex..

Very good points. OK then, what are the alternatives to anti-psychotics for people who experience constant hallucinations, severely deluded paranoia and other psychotic symptoms that make their lives a living hell? Maybe alternatives exist and peopled don't know about them -- there are many things I don't know about and wish to learn, so please share if you know of alternatives. I'm not talking about ADHD, everyday depression and anxiety here. I mean severe mental illness.

Okay here you are..

This is an article I just came across a few days ago. It is about how some people who are schizophrenic are experiencing healing by becoming aware of their delusions, by understanding when they are hallucinating and to understand the underlying message that their delusions have for them. It’s quite fascinating.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/26/he...ewanted=1&_r=2


Bipolar disorder – This is really cool.

A Canadian company called Truehope [http://www.truehope.com/default.aspx] makes a vitamin and mineral supplement called EMPower Plus. It dramatically effects symptoms of bipolar disorder as well as other disorders such as anxiety, depression and schizophrenia. It is so effective that the health arm of the Canadian Government – Health Canada, suddenly ordered an end to a clinical trial that was testing it and banned the product in Canada.

Now this is a really long story but after suicides, a log court battle the product is available again. Go to the above site and look around. Look at the testimonials from people.

Also during the time of the trial, a group of women that called themselves the Red Umbrellas lobbied the Government to give them back their Empower Plus. Have a look at their stories at - http://www.theredumbrellas.com/ostory.html

Also I’m going to upload a book to the download section here at Nexus, that is also available online, called “What Part of No Don’t They Understand?” It’s a really fabulous book chronicling the ways in which Health Canada is working to eliminate out health freedoms. In it, in Chapter 2, page 167, it talks about the Truehope case. I kow the lawyer, Shawn Buckley, who took this case on and now runs a Canadian organization called the Natural Health Products Protection Association. http://www.nhppa.org Read that chapter not only to learn about the successful case of Truehope but to find out more about how these products have helped people.

The testimony of Harvard University’s Dr Charles Popper is particularly compelling. A small note from page 202 [page 224 in the PDF]:

Dr. Charles Popper, a psychiatrist at Harvard University, who also teaches psychiatry to other psychiatrists, testified that when treatment was withdrawn the symptoms returned. Dr. Popper has most impressive qualifications. Although he was initially extremely skeptical with regards to the supplement, by the time of trial approximately 100 to 150 of his patients were using the supplement. He testified that he would have difficulty managing his practice if his patients had to return to conventional treatment by frequent interviews and the use of medications which lack the stability experienced by patients on the supplement. In addition to his patients, Dr. Popper testified to having consulted on 300 to 500 hundred additional patients on the supplement. Dr. Popper’s expert evidence was that if the supplement became unavailable, symptoms associated with depression and bi-polar disorder, which would include aggressive behaviour, assaults, hospitalizations and suicides, would return.

Okay.. I hope that helps. Time for bed. I’ll upload the Book I referenced above, right away.

[Ross]

Anti-psychotics for some are the lesser of two evils. Necessary to conduct a more balanced perspective, while navigating this life, and for those folk, a true godsend.

Sadly, the promotion and administration of such medications are given for almost any form of feeling blue, without deeper analysis of the patients underlying condition. This is a criminal act and a completely insane thing to do.

Diagnosis is based solely on observation from the expert and the information the patient provides.

The results are profound for those poor souls. The general truth of it is this:

let’s fog the minds of those with medication, rather than a complete analysis of their condition, their physical environment, their social environment and anything else that may be causing imbalance, then we will add further meds as counter-measures for the insidious side effects followed by further meds to counter act the meds that counter act the side effects…wot!

Ross

[Chicodoodoo]

Some of my posts I can recover (using Firefox add-on Lazurus). Here is the one I posted in this thread before the database crashed:

If money were not involved, we would not recognize the health care field. The conflict of interest that money creates is crippling. This applies not only to the health care field, but also to the legal field, insurance, agriculture, banking, and government (to name just a few). As a society, we are horribly crippled. Money is the reason, and sociopaths control the money. Do you think there might be a connection between sociopaths and our horribly crippled society? Needless to say, I do.

[Ross]

Thanks to Zook, he had this post of mine that disappeared into the abyss from the original thread.

No anti-depressants nor anti-psychotics cure you. They mask only, and at a detrimental cost to the rest of your being, particularly long term use, of which big Pharma try to ensure.

Once a drug, from the patients point of view and the Doctors, show some signs of improvement from the original ailment, they then, more often than not, prescribe counter-measure meds to try and alleviate the side effect...and on and on it goes.

If the original meds produce no improvement, then a new one is administered along with more counter measure drugs for side effects.

Ross

[Ross]

And another of mine he found...what a champ Zook is.

One thing is clear to me. The environmental and social factors of the external world, which in no small part, play a significant role in your inner environment. Your body, your Bio chemistry and your Brain, all contribute to your balance of mind.

Nutrition is a key factor, one which is often overlooked by the orthodox medical establishment.

Understanding the bio-chemistry of foods and the body are paramount in a world full of nutrient deficient foods and more often than not, foods that contain harmful substances, and how this directly affects the body and in turn, brain function.

Here are some key factors to consider, when analysing ones physical and mental disposition.

What have you been, and currently are, exposed to over the course of your life?

Vaccines?
Fluoride?
Amalgam
Poisons, sprays; etc.?
Heavy metal exposure?
Recreationsl drugs?
Large amounts of alcohol?
Poor diets?
Poor exercise?
Medical procedures requiring General anaesthetics and medications?
Air quality?

These are a few of the top of my head….that affect your bio-chemistry and total well being.

Social environment:
Home environment
Relationship environment
School environment
Work environment

All these play a very significant role in one’s overall perspective.

The importance of a supportive, caring and loving environment is paramount to one’s overall health.

In a world driven by fear, stress and worry, Cortisol and Adrenalin hormones are also key players.
They affect the body, thus bio-chemistry and when these are in high levels, in the body, they do have a negative effect including the brain/mind leading to further issues.

Adrenalin:

Adrenaline was the first hormone to be identified, and was successfully synthesized in 1904. It is part of a family known as biogenic amines, which includes serotonin and histamine, among others. Its specific compound group is the catecholamine group, which also includes norepinephrine and dopamine. Sustained high levels of catecholamine’s in the blood are a good indicator of chronic stress.
It may be important after a particularly stressful situation to "work off" the adrenaline that has been released into the system. Our ancestors handled this naturally through fighting or other physical exertion, but in the modern world, high-stress situations often arise that involve little physical activity. This can leave high amounts of adrenaline in the body, resulting in insomnia and jittery nerves.

Cortisol: One of its negative effects is lowering the immune system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortisol

Now, very few of the above are addressed when one goes to the medical profession for help, due to physical and/or mental issues. Instead, often you have a limited time with said professional and more often than not, you are given some form of medication:

This is a general statement concerning the medical Associations "general" practice.
Ross

[Heretic]

Dr. Oz 4 Things Drug Companies Don’t Want You To Know About

1. Drug Companies Under Estimate Dangerous Side Effects
2. Drug Companies Control Much of the Information Your Doctor Gets About A Drug
3. You’re Often Prescribed Drugs You Don’t Need
4. Drugs Target the Symptom Not the Cause

This isn't just conspiracy but simply part of medical history and there have been milestone events to pave the way (remember the Tylenol poisonings?) for these developments, like some long term diabolical plan creating such a context of uncertainty and fear that just about anything can get pushed through the system that is now a bought and payed for interest group with a badge

such questions like Are drug companies inventing diseases to make money? are and have been a part of the national medical conversation for some time, there is a money wall people keep coming up against and nothing gets done by the institutions that are supposed to be protecting us

Great video and I can't say enough about how difficult it is to come off some of these drugs once on them, especially the SSRI variety. Some report it is akin to a dangerous detox with all the dangers both physiological and psychological.

[Ross]

Thanks for the links Burke, your a trooper

Ross

[reaver]

This was my original post:

Maybe (that's a big maybe) there are some medications that could actually help for a short period of time, that is tackling the symptoms but not the root itself... perhaps a few diseases here and there could be genetical (if they are I have the suspicion they were engineered) and well those people may be fuc ked for good... but for the most part I think is a combination of many, many factors... yes one of them being the death crusade of big pharma.

There is a massive problem with the idea of "expert" on all fields; the intention behind that label is to make people submit to the authority of these experts... which can be compared to the role of the priests of organized religions and crazy sects. If that wasn't enough then you can find out most of these so called experts are just as zombified as their patients, hell I bet some psychiatrists are on medication themselves. You also must have in mind that companies can lie as to what crap they put into their products, I bet that many times they put ingredients which shouldn’t be there - think mercury in vaccines with the excuse of preserving a life saving shot ha! - and it’s likely that many doctors just push X or Y medicine with a blind faith, after all mighty science is behind the creation of those medications... and science has become a religion at large.

On one hand some people are pushing for the engineered production of junkies en masse and on the other hand you have the mindless masses going to take their prozac like obedient dogs... sometimes I have to wonder what's worse: the psychopathic elites or the stupid masses (I'd say the latter). This dependency on chemicals to feel a bit better for a while is not limited to the psychiatric field, for example, you can see this happening with T.V. where people get drugged up with their own body chemicals and the ❤❤❤❤ty programming on T.V. is used as the stimulant or think about people who are addicted to adrenaline rushes... it’s an all-out attack on multiple fronts, some attacks look to numb people, while others seek to over-stimulate people and you can see both types colliding within the bodies and the psyches of people.

Again even if there are some medications which in fact can help people, they would only take care for the symptoms for a while. Think about a cold, you could take medicine that reduces fever and yes you would feel better, but the medicine is not attacking the root which is the cold so eventually you would need larger doses of medicine just to not feel that messed up... keep this going on and you’ll find yourself dependent on fever medicine which is not working anymore. Of course when it comes to problems like anxiety the solution (in most cases I think) is not found in X or Y medication but within the psyche of the person in question, sure the person could take synthetic or herbal medicines to ease the pain, but make no mistake if the problems within his/her psyche are not addressed then you’ll see a junkie in the making. The other side of the problem is indeed a mafia of experts who medicate people who don’t even need that crap, think about children and the ADHD bullsh!t... yeah well why the hell should a kids have to stand the BS coming out of their teachers and parents? Why should a kid have to sit for 6 or 7 hours on a chair doing things they don’t like in the first place? You know as far as my experience goes children start to get fed up with school by the third year of primary school that would be around 7 to 8 years old... but hey you must focus on the propaganda machine and obey it, otherwise you have ADHD and should be medicated and sedated... society needs obedient workers.

For the record, I barely reached the one hour mark in the video... it is something I explored before and one of those things which I can more or less tell how they work by mere intuition and observation.
And now for something relevant:

[Heretic]

Another documentary on the same subject even

The Marketing of Madness

[Heretic]

Drug Giant Hit with $1 Billion Fine Over Faulty Antipsychotic Risperdal Marketing

Anthony Gucciardi
Activist Post


Johnson & Johnson, the largest health products company in the world, will pay $1 billion to the United States government, as well as most states, in response to an agreement over the marketing of the hugely popular antipsychotic drug Risperdal.

J&J came to an agreement with a U.S. attorney in a meeting conducted in Philadelphia after the government concluded an ongoing investigation into how the company marketed the drug for unapproved uses.

Risperdal at one time was J&J’s best-selling drug, raking in over $24.2 billion in sales from 2003 to 2010. Following the mega sales, J&J lost patent protection and sales began to plummet. In comparison, the $1 billion fine is quite low. Numerically, it is equivalent to 31% of Risperdal’s peak sales in 2007.

While negotiations over a possible criminal plea are still in the process, J&J is one of many drug giants to receive minor fines for practices that threaten public health on a grand scale.

read more...

will pay $1 billion to the United States government

yaay more money for more war...how about restitution to those affected....what a sham

[Modwiz]

Medicines, by themselves, are neither good or bad. It is in their usage. Like a knife or ax, it is the utilization that matters. There is unquestionably an ugly and greedy psychopathic intent in the pharm industry but they will hide behind statements like my first one.

BTW. There are different kinds of bi-polarity and therefore different 'cures. I was seriously bi-polar for awhile, it was called drunk/sober syndrome. When I stopped drinking I leveled out and was no longer bi-polar. I am sure my situation is not the only case of this.

[sandy]

Hey Modwiz,

I can relate and the best medicine "at the time" was having Bill as a friend and cleaning up my own act

[Akhenaten]

The drug companies, increasingly consolidating and for the most part originating in German corporate structures (or Austro-Swiss) are living in a wet-dream based on the idea of "curing" people of being human. There is no known cure for being human.

Drugging oneself legally or illegally is only a temporary stop-gap in the oasis of dreams on the caravan trail to one's true destiny.

ONE CANNOT CURE ONESELF FROM BEING HUMAN BY TAKING SOMA OR ANY OTHER DRUG LORD KNOWS MANY OF US HAVE DILIGENTLY TRIED!

There must be another way.

AND - they (the drug companies) must have some other motive in addition to profits --- logically they are trying to change us into non-humans under the guise of popping a magic pill.

No magic pill exists - EXCEPT IN OUR OWN MINDS.

The key is not trying to escape from being human but to go more deeply into it.