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    Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Here is the situation:

    My daughter is badly bullied at school, in a very subtle manner: it is mostly verbal and sneaky bullying in her classroom.

    As she is the youngest of the class and a good student despite learning disabilities due to dysphasia (others in her class are all dyslesic, which is much milder disability), therefore not agile with spoken and written words and not agile in speaking congruently fast enough, she is being badly bullied through regular nasty comments from most of the class (only 4-5 don't do it), comments that as she says "are not much by themselves, but it is the cumulation of them that is terrible mom, it is non stop, 5-10 comments a day". She is a tiny chubby (nothing when comparing to obese) and pretty but she thinks she does not worth much.

    As the comments are fast and often in low tone, most teachers were not aware of it until my daughter snapped. Being a good student, the teachers were wondering what was wrong. She came back that day telling me she did not want to go back to school, that "even if I am eager to learn new stuff mom, I do not want it anymore" and she was crying. She told me that the worst is the rejection, being put alone all the time, not being able to make friends. And on and on - for example, a student came to speak to her while another one pulls that student out to stop her from speaking to my daughter saying she is ****ed up - and much more. It has been going on for 18 months and she was mostly hiding from me, not to worry me.

    I forced her to go back to school the following day after she snapped because it was Christmas gift exchange (they had pulled names and ezch student was to make a gift to another one) and my daughter was the only one in the class not to receive anything. No need to tell you that when I called on the same day to tell them she could not stand the byllying anymore, they believed it.

    The teachers are aware of the problem but hesitate to adress it directly.

    I need ideas for teachers on how to handle such a situation.

    I also need ideas for me, on an individual basis, on what to do to help my daughter. To tell the truth, I feel quite disempowered, I do not know what to do (of course I tell her how much I love her, but what else?)

    Thank you all in advance for your gracious help.

    Flash

    ps: I did check the thread on Avalon on bullying but did not find much to help the teachers or the mom. I don't think there is anything specific on Nexus on the topic.
    I do have the Blue eyes Brown eyes experiments videos and the Teen files: being the change 1-2-3 videos, thanks Avalon for this.

    But I need more please, interventions have to be fast - there is suicidal ideas my daughter shared with me.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Oh my...

    First of all...how horrible this is happening to her..

    a lovely...and FAR from fat young lady.

    Tasha loves being around her... maybe reach out to tasha on face book see if she can help give your daughter some "distraction"

    Now... Bullying is a crime in this country.

    1- Call police for ANY threats...forget the "oh but kids just pick more if you complain" tactic. These are crimes and your daughter needs to be taught how to deal with assault/harrasement.

    2- Ever look into home school? public school system is a joke and a mine field for "sensitive" kids.

    3- Abuse will ruin your daughters life. This is a serious situation and needs immediate attention. Watch for signs of depression/suicide and talk to your family doctor.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    that is terrible going by,i'm not a teacher to advise you unfortunately but a thought that came to my head is to find the main culprits and expose them,the teachers have a duty of care to your daughter and its their responsibility to monitor the kids behaviour,its obvious they hav'nt been doing this to any affect so i'd advise you to go above their heads and also confront the bullies parents with their kids behaviour and ask the teachers to monitor this properly
    its a tough situation to be honest and my heart goes out to ye both,i hope ye find some peace


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Hi hon
    Sorry to hear about this, I don't think i can be much help. I can tell you that if she was my daughter i would pull her from the school and not put her back in until she believed how beautiful she is as much as I do. Until she loved herself as much as I love her. Then send her back with enough self love in her heart to laugh off the morons who aren't fit to smell her shoes.
    At some point the tormentors and their parents need to be hauled into a group meeting and shown how mean and ignorant they are.

    If that doesn't work, you wouldn't like my next plan.. Turnabout.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Thanks you all for your comment.

    It is a good idea, i will tell her to contact Tasha for shopping day or something, she really likes your daughter too. As for taking her away from school, it is a bit difficult.

    I can't homeschool being a single mother I need to work to put food on the table. I thought of changing her class, but it is a small school for learning disabled that are mostly deeply dyslexic, and few classes of the same levels, and they all work together across classes. Changing school could be detrimental because she is surrounded by specialists and she has wondeful teachers.

    I forgot to tell that she was so good in primary school that they made her jump one year upon arrival in high school, so that she would not loose time if she decides to go to College (which in itself would be a miracle, most dysphasics do not even end up primary schooling).

    The teacher is listening to me, I just do not know how equipped she is to do anything worth it while not putting my daughter more into more rejection from the students. I need to equip the teacher, that is what I feel. Thanks

    I will keep you personnally posted to Richard and C?line, because you personnally know her.


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Oh gosh.
    I'm so sorry that your daughter has to experience this Going By, children can be incredibly cruel. I just wish i knew what to advise you, I have no kids and so am probably the last person who could offer you advice. I just wanted you to know that i care. If only we could get our children to believe that soon enough, school will be a thing of the past and hopefully those despicable children will regret for the rest of there lives(when they get a bit of sense) the way they made a young girl feel. It is nearly always the most popular, best looking kids that end up being total losers in later life, and kids like your daughter will blossom into awesome individuals. Just tell your daughter that no matter how bad it seems now, that things will improve, this i know. And ask her to promise you that she will talk to you and tell you how she's feeling and not bottle it up until she cant see a way out.
    School doesn't last forever.

    You and your daughter are in my thoughts Going By.


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Tasha will love to go shopping with her...

    And..., lots of working moms have kids in home school... try some research you might find something that fits .

    Try thinking "outside the box"... education in this province is... atrocious anyways.

    maybe this is an oppurtunity ..

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    So sorry to hear Going By. I know that you will do the right thing when talking to the school personnel. Please tell her that we are very much looking forward to hearing another song.


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Hey Flash!
    I can't tell you how sad i am to hear of your daughter's torment. This issue hurts us all and in my experience schools are unable to help. In fact, they hold the template in their very structure. Verbal and sneeky bullying is the teaching profession's stock in trade imo. Schools need conformity and will do anything to make sure that is all they see. This in turn is passed down to the social structure. Any child who cannot comform totally is centred out for their difference.

    I could relate to your daughter being the only one not to get a gift. We had our daughter in the large Waldorf school here, at great expense we could little afford, and in Grade 1 she was given a classload of picures with pigs on them for her birthday drawings.

    A year later we started homeschooling and it has been a wonderful experience. Now she is in Grade 9 online and loves it. The kids have bonded like they were in physical classes. There's skyping, facebooking, online classroom chatting and emailing all day. Hard to get her to do her homework because she's not used to doing any anyways. (But she does have a book published and assistant teaches martial arts in the dojo's homeschoolers and youth classes) I listen but hear no meanness, bad language or inappropriate peer pressure. There was a blip at the beginning with some former regular school kids who tried to set up the in-group thing, but the homeschooled kids just showed them that was not fun.

    I don't know what age your daughter is but feel free to PM me with questions. I agree with Celine. This must be dealt wih swiftly and by the parent so your daughter can return to a feeling of being protected. Also the damage is unspeakable and will attract similar abusive interactions for her whole life.

    Good Luck, and my deepest supportive love goes out to you.


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Been there done that My son was going thru it last yr . The new kid he was picked on all the time .One day in gym class he was told by 3 of them they were going to kick his azz after school . he told them bring it on i have a knife he got suspended for 3 days . Not one to let this go i called his school spoke directly to the principal .asked him why he told me the school had a policy of zero tolerance for violence in the school . I called him on it and told him the right to defend one`s self can not be taken away from anyone regardless of their situation by any school or school board . The school has a responsibility tp ensure the safety of your children often times they hope things like this will play them selves out . Chris MY opinion Call or go to the school and demand not request that an investigation be done by the principal tell him that because they can not ensure the well being of your child you will not send here to school to find out 3 months from now that she killed herslf because no one listened to her pleas . The media will soak it up in light of recent suicides and audio record your meeting tough sh!t if they don`t like it


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Hi, this is a UK charity which deals with bullying. I am not sure how much your education system differs to ours but you may find some useful info here http://www.kidscape.org.uk/

    I've had a minor issue at primary school and I have to say the class teacher responded very well. I know another parent who had to go to the head teacher and asked for a copy of the school's anti-school policy and the very asking for it, showed that she wanted to take the matter seriously. Here, we also have the option to go to the governing body of the school and the local education authority if the school itself fails to deal with it.

    I don't know how old your daughter is but one thing I do with my son is say to him at bedtime "is there anything you need to talk to me about". It's been very helpful for him. He knows he can talk to me about anything, I will listen and he gets to take the weight off with his worries. I've found out quite a few things which have been bothering him at school, that he wouldn't have told me otherwise. In fact, I have found that if I ask him about school when he comes home from school, it's the worst time for him to talk about it.

    I've also let him cry his heart out if he needs to while I am there holding him. As a parent there's a tendancy to want to make them feel better so it was a bit strange at first allowing the full torrent of emotions to come out but it is so beneficial to allow the process to happen. I've also encouraged him to scream out anger if needs be and punch a cushion when he is frustrated.

    Expressing our emotions is part of the human experience. We can learn how to do this safely......unfortuantely most of us are conditioned to suppress our emotions by "feeling better" and we can end up with a ticking time bomb inside of us, not knowing when it is going to go off.

    I hope that you are able to find some resolution here. Good luck to both of you
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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    I've been through this with my daughter. She is an exceptionally caring and compassionate person. What I did was sit down with her and talk about the dynamics of bullying. I explained that the bullies were trying to bother her, to upset her, to get her to react. I explained she had the power to neutralize their efforts by the way she behaved. If she could ignore them and not give the reaction they wanted, she could cause them to lose interest. I explained how hard it was to do this, because we are all easily emotionally affected by bullying, but that it can be done, and you get better at it with practice. There is a temporary price to pay, you will feel very alone and helpless at first, but by analyzing your enemies and studying their strategies, you can even find their weaknesses and potentially counter-punch.

    And I told her the story of when I was bullied as a four-year old kid. A bigger and older kid ran after me, threw me to the ground, sat on my chest, and held my arms down on either side of my head, laughing maniacally. Then he spotted a fresh pile of dog-doo right beside us, and with a gleam of joy in his eye, he picked up my arm and forced my hand into the warm mush, taking care to smear it all around the ground with my hand. He laughed so hard that he let go of my hands. Big mistake. I took that poo coated hand and wiped it right across his fancy blond crew-cut. The look of horror on his face was priceless. He ran off crying, calling for his mommy. Of course, I did the same, but that bully never bothered me again.


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Hi Going by, I too am very sorry to hear the troubles your daughter is having in school, kids can be amongst the cruelest creatures on earth, yours truly amongst them at times. Both me and my wife had bully problems in school, but the ways we dealt with it then probably wouldn't work now. But what the hell...

    There was a year in second grade I think it was, where I was in a new school, and a group of boys would literally chase me home every day, threatening to beat me up. One day I must have come home crying, because my dad took me aside, made a makeshift punching bag, and took as long as it took to teach me how to throw a punch. Once this was complete, he instructed me that the next time it happened, rather than running, to walk boldly up to the one in front, and punch him for all I was worth right in the stomach.

    Well, the very next day it happened again. Here they came, all cocky and gung ho. I was scared s**tless, but did what dad told me. I walked right up to the lead bully, who was quite surprised btw, and socked him in the gut as hard as I could! I'll never forget, he doubled over, and then ran crying home to mommy. The rest of the school year went just fine, and me and that kid actually wound up being friends.

    My wife had similar experiences, and trust me, she's one tough son of a gun because of it. I'm not saying your daughter has to go deck someone,(LOL) but bullies are cowards by trade, and they don't like to be stood up to in any manner. Being a bully is tricky business, and a tough kid making a stand can turn the popularity tables up side down before you can say "gotcha!"

    Whatever happens, I wish you the best for all concerned in this difficult situation.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Well that's fu cked up for sure... me thinks this one has to be a long and deep talk with your daughter, seems like this is beyond your typical bullying case. If you are willing, get your ass on skype, perhaps I can help at least a bit.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Someone stick this thread, please. If more people see this, more helpful ideas can come along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HURRITT ENYETO View Post
    Oh gosh.
    I'm so sorry that your daughter has to experience this Going By, children can be incredibly cruel. I just wish i knew what to advise you, I have no kids and so am probably the last person who could offer you advice. I just wanted you to know that i care. If only we could get our children to believe that soon enough, school will be a thing of the past and hopefully those despicable children will regret for the rest of there lives(when they get a bit of sense) the way they made a young girl feel. It is nearly always the most popular, best looking kids that end up being total losers in later life, and kids like your daughter will blossom into awesome individuals. Just tell your daughter that no matter how bad it seems now, that things will improve, this i know. And ask her to promise you that she will talk to you and tell you how she's feeling and not bottle it up until she cant see a way out.
    School doesn't last forever.

    You and your daughter are in my thoughts Going By.


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    Thanks Hurritt, I will have her read your post. This will help.


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    Hey Flash!
    I can't tell you how sad i am to hear of your daughter's torment. This issue hurts us all and in my experience schools are unable to help. In fact, they hold the template in their very structure. Verbal and sneeky bullying is the teaching profession's stock in trade imo. Schools need conformity and will do anything to make sure that is all they see. This in turn is passed down to the social structure. Any child who cannot comform totally is centred out for their difference.

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    A year later we started homeschooling and it has been a wonderful experience. Now she is in Grade 9 online and loves it. The kids have bonded like they were in physical classes. There's skyping, facebooking, online classroom chatting and emailing all day. Hard to get her to do her homework because she's not used to doing any anyways. (But she does have a book published and assistant teaches martial arts in the dojo's homeschoolers and youth classes) I listen but hear no meanness, bad language or inappropriate peer pressure. There was a blip at the beginning with some former regular school kids who tried to set up the in-group thing, but the homeschooled kids just showed them that was not fun.

    I don't know what age your daughter is but feel free to PM me with questions. I agree with Celine. This must be dealt wih swiftly and by the parent so your daughter can return to a feeling of being protected. Also the damage is unspeakable and will attract similar abusive interactions for her whole life.

    Good Luck, and my deepest supportive love goes out to you.
    Mine was also at Warldoff school the first year cause we knew she was having language difficulties and thought it would be better. Guess, it was good in kindergarten, horrible in first year. She was bullied and the European teacher would take for the fast learning Iranian kid bully saying that my daughter would not listen anyhow, me saying that she could not.

    The following year she was admitted to that special school where she finished her primary schoold with success and full of self confidence. She is now in high school (14 years old) and they made her jump one year not to put her too much back (she is now one year behind, she was two before) because they saw a potential for college from IQ testing. This is where it started: she is the youngest in her class, succeed with A,Bs and now Cs because she is not feeling good, she sings and write songs and music and had a show. I think they are mostly jealous all of them. She really missed her old class where she was well integrated.

    However, tell me more about homeschooling in Canada, I would very much like to know. thanks


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

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    Hi, this is a UK charity which deals with bullying. I am not sure how much your education system differs to ours but you may find some useful info here http://www.kidscape.org.uk/

    I've had a minor issue at primary school and I have to say the class teacher responded very well. I know another parent who had to go to the head teacher and asked for a copy of the school's anti-school policy and the very asking for it, showed that she wanted to take the matter seriously. Here, we also have the option to go to the governing body of the school and the local education authority if the school itself fails to deal with it.

    I don't know how old your daughter is but one thing I do with my son is say to him at bedtime "is there anything you need to talk to me about". It's been very helpful for him. He knows he can talk to me about anything, I will listen and he gets to take the weight off with his worries. I've found out quite a few things which have been bothering him at school, that he wouldn't have told me otherwise. In fact, I have found that if I ask him about school when he comes home from school, it's the worst time for him to talk about it.

    I've also let him cry his heart out if he needs to while I am there holding him. As a parent there's a tendancy to want to make them feel better so it was a bit strange at first allowing the full torrent of emotions to come out but it is so beneficial to allow the process to happen. I've also encouraged him to scream out anger if needs be and punch a cushion when he is frustrated.

    Expressing our emotions is part of the human experience. We can learn how to do this safely......unfortuantely most of us are conditioned to suppress our emotions by "feeling better" and we can end up with a ticking time bomb inside of us, not knowing when it is going to go off.

    I hope that you are able to find some resolution here. Good luck to both of you
    Jeanette
    Thank you Jenci. Mine is 14 going on 15 and she does express her feelings quite easily. She used to talk to me about most of her problem but lately stopped - teenager stuff I thought - to realise now that she wanted to protect me, my feeling, my time. She says that I did a lot for her already. I will definitly be more vigilant about her feelings and situation.

    Chico: What I did was sit down with her and talk about the dynamics of bullying. I explained that the bullies were trying to bother her, to upset her, to get her to react. I explained she had the power to neutralize their efforts by the way she behaved. If she could ignore them and not give the reaction they wanted, she could cause them to lose interest. I explained how hard it was to do this, because we are all easily emotionally affected by bullying, but that it can be done, and you get better at it with practice. There is a temporary price to pay, you will feel very alone and helpless at first, but by analyzing your enemies and studying their strategies, you can even find their weaknesses and potentially counter-punch.
    She already played the indifferent and it did not stop. Their strategy is exclusion and nasty comments in turn, and they are most of the class on it. They use language which is the weak point of my daughter - she would die off trying to follow Zook lol. I did think of a fast course on bithchery for her to be better equiped. I told her that she had my permission to defend herself and that I would support her in front of teachers or school director if she overdo it. Finding their wearknesses, what a great idea. And we would have fun while doing it. Thanks.

    Fred Steeve: My wife had similar experiences, and trust me, she's one tough son of a gun because of it. I'm not saying your daughter has to go deck someone,(LOL) but bullies are cowards by trade, and they don't like to be stood up to in any manner. Being a bully is tricky business, and a tough kid making a stand can turn the popularity tables up side down before you can say "gotcha!"
    Thanks, you are confirming Chico and giving me ideas of what to do on a personal basis with my daughter. I am the shoemaker with bad shoes. I have NLP quite extensively studied, I know about psychopaths and manipulators, I included it in some of my training in corporations, yet I do not know how to turn it into a teenager language. Well, this will be my holiday challenge. Thanks you for the idea.

    Reaver: Well that's fu cked up for sure... me thinks this one has to be a long and deep talk with your daughter, seems like this is beyond your typical bullying case. If you are willing, get your ass on skype, perhaps I can help at least a bit.
    Counting on you REaver, if you don't mind I would like to put my dauhgter on skype with you directly. You really have a talent for getting at the troat of nastiness and you are creative. Sure some good could come out of it. She is not home right now, but when she is back would it be fine?


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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Just as Hurrit- no direct experience with my own children.

    BUT

    1) contact with daughter: suicides happen when person involved thinks he is driven into a wall. It doesn't matter if there is really a wall, what counts person believes in it, and act on that belief. "It's all going to be ok" does not cut it, you will only be out from the loop, and face "out of the blue" event. You will learn truth only if the other person would not be afraid of punishment (including being ashamed). If your daughter become suddenly quiet that means really deep trouble, and little time.

    2) you must teach your daughter not to value herself via others value. This is hard bit, as humans are social animals, but this also means anybody that does not fit "pack" standards will be hunted down and eradicated. Since your daughter is not part of the pack, she is Hare. Hard part is for you to explain your daughter to not take part in the game. Facing no resistance, the bullies will stop - but if the "mark" struggles- it will just embolden the predators. They ARE predators, make no mistake.

    3) do not count on authorities, they only want to sweep troubles away. "not on my watch" is the best thing you can count on.

    4) if your kid will learn to be transparent to game, she could go into "lofty tower" phase. This is also danger - after all you want to her function in society. Balancing is key.

    5) being different is ok, but do not allow to it to be excuse for being sloppy. Be the 1%, and use your strengthens while not exposing your weaknesses.



    The chubby part- this is low self-esteem indicator. I would advice looking into proper diet - especially limiting carbs and serotonin-inducing foods. They keep the morale up, but are just another drug, if you ask me. Fought with that nearly all of my life.
    Oh, and look into Aikido and/or Archery. Those usually gather right kind of people - kids too.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

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    This is where it started: she is the youngest in her class, succeed with A,Bs and now Cs because she is not feeling good, she sings and write songs and music and had a show. I think they are mostly jealous all of them. She really missed her old class where she was well integrated.
    Perhaps she may be interested in this list of famous people who were bullied at school. A lot of them had special talents too. I bet the bullies are not laughing at them now.

    http://www.listal.com/list/celebriti...bullied-school

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    However, tell me more about homeschooling in Canada, I would very much like to know. thanks

    ? ?diteur officiel du Qu?bec
    R.S.Q., chapter I-13.3



    EDUCATION ACTCOMPULSORY SCHOOL ATTENDANCE

    14. Every child resident in Qu?bec shall attend school from the first day of the school calendar in the school year following that in which he attains 6 years of age until the last day of the school calendar in the school year in which he attains 16 years of age or at the end of which he obtains a diploma awarded by the Minister, whichever occurs first.

    1988, c. 84, s. 14; 1990, c. 8, s. 2.

    15. The following students are exempt from compulsory school attendance:

    (1) a student excused by the school board by reason of illness or for the purpose of receiving medical treatment or care required by his state of health;

    (2) a student excused by the school board, at the request of his parents and after consultation with the advisory committee on services for handicapped students and students with social maladjustments or learning disabilities established under section 185, by reason of a physical or mental handicap which prevents him from attending school;

    (3) a student expelled from school by the school board pursuant to section 242;

    (4) a student who receives home schooling and benefits from an educational experience which, according to an evaluation made by or for the school board, are equivalent to what is provided at school.

    A child is excused from attending public school if he attends a private educational institution governed by the Act respecting private education (chapter E-9.1) or an institution whose instructional program is the subject of an international agreement within the meaning of the Act respecting the Minist?re des Relations internationales (chapter M-25.1.1) which provides all or part of the educational services provided for by this Act.

    A child is also excused from attending public school if the child attends a vocational training centre or receives instruction in an enterprise that meets the conditions determined by the Minister in a regulation under paragraph 7 of section 111 of the Act respecting private education.

    In addition, the school board may exempt one of its students, at the request of his parents, from compulsory school attendance for one or more periods totalling not more than six weeks in any school year, to allow him to carry out urgent work.
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    3) do not count on authorities, they only want to sweep troubles away. "not on my watch" is the best thing you can count on.

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    If you mean schools , i agree... but if you mean the police, atleast in canada, this is something they take seriously

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    Counting on you REaver, if you don't mind I would like to put my dauhgter on skype with you directly. You really have a talent for getting at the troat of nastiness and you are creative. Sure some good could come out of it. She is not home right now, but when she is back would it be fine?
    Sure, that's a deal.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

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    The chubby part- this is low self-esteem indicator. I would advice looking into proper diet - especially limiting carbs and serotonin-inducing foods. They keep the morale up, but are just another drug, if you ask me. Fought with that nearly all of my life.
    Oh, and look into Aikido and/or Archery. Those usually gather right kind of people - kids too.
    Your intent is positive im sure... perhaps you misunderstood Luke..but the child is NOT FAT


    Her peers call her fat ...even if she is not.

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    Re: Heavy bullying, help needed please

    Hello Going by,

    This is certainly a tough one and sadly is everywhere at some level in all schools, from subtle to more in your face bullying.

    I am a mentor (volunteer) and amongst my duties I also work within schools dealing with kids from 12-18 years. I do one on one mentoring with several kids and see this issue often.

    My role mainly involves listening, being a friend, developing trust, support and encouragement.

    When I have a situation regarding bullying, it is often the case that the victim begins to disengage from school on an academic level and a social level (which is my job to try and stop this process) and it seems you are witnessing this already.

    When this becomes apparent, within my role and consent from my mentee, in strict confidence, I speak with the teachers. Now some teachers are aware and do take steps within the classroom but this is only surface level for most teachers due to their workload and over-crowding of students. I then speak with the guidance councillor, which all schools here in OZ have.

    Once the guidance councillor is involved, the awareness level and investigation is taken more seriously and all parties get involved. The student, the teacher/s, the guidance councillor, the deputy headmaster, the parent/s, the bullying student/s and their parents. It can be a nightmare at times getting people involved, but as a mentor, with consent from the mentee, I have a reasonable amount of pulling power and following the ?rules? imposed on me, I am able to facilitate getting the right people involved.

    Often this includes discussion with the bully/s, and parents where there is often underlying issues creating this behaviour. (Sometimes you can help the bullies)

    If your school provides a mentoring system and guidance councillors, I would suggest trying this avenue if you haven?t already as here in OZ, this is the best way to get action.

    It all comes down to communication and getting the right people involved.

    Let me know what the school offers in this regard.

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