Fact or fiction?

[andywight]

Which leads to the hollow earth theory and upcoming NPIEE expedition latter this year!

Find some great links to relevant websites/vids and listen to hour one of Brooks Agnew's interview with Henrik Palmgren at Redice Radio Link to hour one of two hour interview

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[andywight]

Would be great to get other members input on this info

[Heretic]

I have not researched the expanding earth theory much even though I have come across it once or twice...it looks interesting for sure

it has occurred to me though that we could be being lied to on such grand scales that the stars are not the stars we think they are, and that the most fundamental facts we take for granted

have totally different explanations that make much more sense

I have this in my "to look into" box now...thanks

[Chicodoodoo]

"The same MUST be true on all planets" (at about the 9:15 mark)

Only if all planets are the same, which I don't think is very likely, given the variety of planets we see in just our star system alone.

Other than that, the surface evidence for this planet expanding, based on the shapes of the land masses, the common fauna and flora of once-neighboring land areas, and the age and topography of the ocean bottoms, seems quite reasonable to me.

[Chuck]

Hello andywight,

Thank you for the link to this compelling video. Nice animation.

I disagree with the author however. There is direct evidence of subduction in many parts of the earth. Simply google "imaging subduction zones" or "Lithoprobe". I have seen seismic images myself... in fact had worked on a couple of projects to image the subduction zone on the west coast of Canada... that clearly show a deep dipping reflector over 100km in depth and deeper. This reflector arises due to it's lower velocity material (oceanic crust) in contrast to the higher velocity of the surrounding mantle.

Furthermore, there is ample evidence of deep earthquakes along these subduction zones. Very accurate measurements can pinpoint these focal points along the subduction boundary.

Finally, gigantic thrust faults can be mapped in the crust of Western Canada for example, that arise due to the compressional nature of the pacific plate pushing against the American continental plate and eventually sliding under it. So clearly compressional forces are at work not just extensional forces.

This does not refute the idea of the earth expanding. It simply means that it might not be expanding as much as the author expects. In other words, rifting or extension might have occurred more than subduction or compression... or maybe not.

[Krystic]

yeah,,typical mainstream science..controlled by the illuminati.They won't admit these things just as they won't admit that the moon is artificial because of all the anomolies that it shows..and all the other anomolies that NASA is sure to know about but won't be revealed.Their theories on how the moon was created just don't add up when the anomolies are taken in o account,,,mainstream science is far from a reliable means of gathering info about anything that would threaten TPTB..they just reenforce the status quo and their agendas with what they allow to become mainstream science...hiding what they REALLY know that changes EVERYTHING.

Luckily for us they don't know all that much about multidimensional physics and there are many good guys that do...on world and off-world.

[Chuck]

yeah,,typical mainstream science..controlled by the illuminati.They won't admit these things just as they won't admit that the moon is artificial because of all the anomolies that it shows..and all the other anomolies that NASA is sure to know about but won't be revealed.Their theories on how the moon was created just don't add up when the anomolies are taken in o account,,,mainstream science is far from a reliable means of gathering info about anything that would threaten TPTB..they just reenforce the status quo and their agendas with what they allow to become mainstream science...hiding what they REALLY know that changes EVERYTHING.

Luckily for us they don't know all that much about multidimensional physics and there are many good guys that do...on world and off-world.

Not sure if you are referring to me Krystic... if you are, first time anybody accused me of being controlled by the illuminati ... oh well, if you live long enough, you'll be accused of everything.

I was just offering my direct experience on this subject, refuting the claim that there is no subduction. I have seen direct evidence for subduction in my own work.

As always, people will take only what they want to hear and call the rest "mainstream science", thereby undermining any new learning.

[lightblue]

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no joke - i think this IS happening and that the final re-configuration push will not come as subtly...no one knows when exactly...l

[Chicodoodoo]

This does not refute the idea of the earth expanding.

That's important to keep in mind. The planet may expand in a complex zig-zag pattern, like a chart of the Dow Jones index. That means contractions also occur, which supports subduction.

[Chuck]

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no joke - i think this IS happening and that the final re-configuration push will not come as subtly...no one knows when exactly...l

Sorry lightblue, can you please explain what you mean? What is happening? and "final re-configuration push"?

[lightblue]

Sorry lightblue, can you please explain what you mean? What is happening? and "final re-configuration push"?

the scenario from the OP is happening i think..as much as it is subtle at the mo (even given lots of earthquackes etc), there will be a sudden push into a new land configuration...i don't rely on any prophecies, i get visions and i got that bit in 2010...i asked when and was given to understand that nobody knows.. i also saw a LOT more land mass, tho not exactly lavish a landscape ...don't know where is excess water going to go.... l

[Chuck]

Thank you for clarifying lightblue.

More landmass above current sea level, means compressional forces are at work not extensional. Compressional forces shrink the earth?s crust not expanding it.

Although? a sudden very large (tens of meters) rifting event in the mid Atlantic for instance, or along the New Madrid will certainly drop sea level (water will rush in to fill the new void) exposing land that was once below sea level.

Another force which causes more landmass is a speeding up of the rotation of the planet.

[lightblue]

Thank you for clarifying lightblue.

More landmass above current sea level, means compressional forces are at work not extensional. Compressional forces shrink the earth’s crust not expanding it.

Although… a sudden very large (tens of meters) rifting event in the mid Atlantic for instance, or along the New Madrid will certainly drop sea level (water will rush in to fill the new void) exposing land that was once below sea level.

Another force which causes more landmass is a speeding up of the rotation of the planet.

i think that's more like it....might our planet be speeding up its rotation?

thanks for sharing your knowledge chuck...hope you hang around...: l

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[Chuck]

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i think that's more like it....might our planet be speeding up its rotation?

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No appreciable amounts... other than a couple of milliseconds shaved off from both the Indonesia/Thailand quake of about 7 years ago and the most recent Japan quake due to the earth's crust shrinking a bit.

In general, an expanding earth means a slowing down of the rotation unless other external forces counter-act.

[lightblue]

No appreciable amounts... other than a couple of milliseconds shaved off from both the Indonesia/Thailand quake of about 7 years ago and the most recent Japan quake due to the earth's crust shrinking a bit.

In general, an expanding earth means a slowing down of the rotation unless other external forces counter-act.

what may constitute "external forces" ? thanks l

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[magamud]

Maybe if we dont figure out our center, we will just blow ourselves up?

Could anyone explain how physics will change if this is true?

[Chuck]

what may constitute "external forces" ? thanks l

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hmmm... could be many things including many I do not know about...
There are long term influences such as tidal forces. Many believe that the moon's orbit is receding away causing less tidal friction.

and there are short term influences like climate changes (changes in atmospheric patterns which cause drag) due to solar changes or changes in the thickness of the polar ice caps.

I don't have a clue how being bombarded by more cosmic radiation will effect the earth's rotation...

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Maybe if we dont figure out our center, we will just blow ourselves up?

Thanks for the laugh magamud... but then I contemplated it more and realized it was the most profound statement I heard all day! lol

[Rebus]

There have been super-deep boreholes drilled in various places over the years, the results of which have been largely ignored by those who adhere to chiseled-in-stone geological theories. These boreholes have shown that seismic reflection surveys are unbelievably unreliable. Nothing is known about what lies beneath with anything like the certainty that the geologists would like us to believe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kola_Superdeep_Borehole
http://designdepartment.wordpress.co...ole-in-russia/
http://www.damninteresting.com/the-deepest-hole
http://www.earthscrust.org/build/pdf...-bore-hole.pdf
http://www.davidpratt.info/inner1.htm#s2

Alfred Wegener, an astronomer who became a meteorologist and amateur geologist, published his theory of continental drift in 1915 which was ignored and ridiculed by professional geologists until the 1950's. It was, in turn, based on a theory by Abraham Ortelius dating back to the 1500's.

Also in the 1950's there was a parallel theory "The Expanding Earth" offered by Samuel Warren Carey, Professor of Geology at the University of Tasmania. The Expanding Earth theory was also not new.

The evidence at the time and even now supports both theories equally, the only major deviation being the idea of subduction.
Check it out.