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    Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    When i was 20... (eons ago..), I was kicked out of a Mcd's for breatfeeding my newborn..

    Seems the problem has not gotten better...



    VANCOUVER ? Facebook and breastfeeding activists are engaged in a battle over the posting of photographs that show mothers feeding their babies.

    Vancouver mom Emma Kwasnica has had more than 20 photos of her breastfeeding her daughters removed from the site since she joined in 2008.

    The latest incident happened Saturday, when she was sent a written warning that a photo of her and her two-year-old daughter Chloe, who was breastfeeding at the time, was considered "sexually explicit."

    Facebook has a strict nudity policy.

    Later that day, a two-year-old photo of her feeding her now four-year-old daughter, Sophie, was also deleted. Kwasnica was then banned from the site for three days.

    Kwasnica said she has tried to contact Facebook administration to speak with them about the issue, but they haven't returned her messages.

    She wants Facebook to be held accountable to the same community standards that allow women to breastfeed in public.

    "Facebook should just leave breastfeeding photos alone," she said. "(Breastfeeding is) not pornographic. It's not obscene. It's a normal human function."

    Facebook's Canadian publicist, Reena Dacdo, said breastfeeding is not exempt from Facebook's community standards page that sets out a no-nudity policy: "I recognize breastfeeding is a natural thing to do, but many users want to foster diverse respect so we have come up with a set of community standards."

    Kwasnica likens the policy to harassing a woman in public for breastfeeding.

    "We aren't doing anything wrong," she said.

    Kwasnica has garnered significant support since complaining about the policy online. A Facebook page to support her has been set up with nearly 3,000 members, many of whom have posted their own breastfeeding photos on the site.

    Dacdo says Facebook is standing firm.

    "It's a tough battle for (Kwasnica), but with 18 million active Canadian users, Facebook is trying to find that balance with respecting everyone's values."

    Dacdo said Facebook is "largely self-regulating" so it's up to users to determine if a particular image contravenes Facebook's policy.

    She said Facebook does not have a specific policy regarding breastfeeding images, but "given that Facebook's policy is no-nudity, it would be best not to post (breastfeeding images)."

    kpemberton@vancouversun.com



    Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/health/B...#ixzz1jLoc8Des



    In the United States, children are commonly bottle-fed from birth or weaned within a few months. But in some societies, children as old as four or five years may still be nursed. The American Academy of Pediatrics currently advises breast-feeding for a minimum of one year (this may be revised upward), and the World Health Organization recommends two years or more. Amid conflicting advice, many wonder how long breast-feeding should last to provide an infant with optimal nutrition and health

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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    The double think dialectic keeps surfacing, even though facebook is flooded with concepts and images which are intended to be strongly sexual, they act mad with horror and censor a picture where a woman is brestfeeding her child... now if they were to advertise something and that something included breasfeeding, then they'd be orgasming about how cute it is. The message is: don't get in contact with the human body, not even the idea of it... yet we will bombard you with sexual imagery when we feel like making you more anxious. Pathetic and sad

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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    I can't say I am suprised, Celine.


    Quote Originally Posted by reaver View Post
    The double think dialectic keeps surfacing, even though facebook is flooded with concepts and images which are intended to be strongly sexual, they act mad with horror and censor a picture where a woman is brestfeeding her child... now if they were to advertise something and that something included breasfeeding, then they'd be orgasming about how cute it is. The message is: don't get in contact with the human body, not even the idea of it... yet we will bombard you with sexual imagery when we feel like making you more anxious. Pathetic and sad

    I think the double think may have to do with putting women off breastfeeding. If they can get babies on processed formula milk from birth, they are happy.

    I breastfed my son for 4 years despite all the looks of horror on people's faces. He's 9 and never needed to take a course of antibiotics.



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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    When i was pregnant with my first child (the same one i was feeding in mcd's) ... i travelled to Cameroon Africa.

    One of the first things i saw on the ride from the airport was a big billboard... advertising bottle feeding and formula.

    By Nestle.. ofcourse

    It made me so angry! Hungry women being told to buy formula, sterilize bottles and nipples... instead of supporting better health for breastfeeding.

    It was the first intance in my life that made me look at a big Corp.. with new eyes

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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    Quote Originally Posted by C?line View Post
    When i was pregnant with my first child (the same one i was feeding in mcd's) ... i travelled to Cameroon Africa.

    One of the first things i saw on the ride from the airport was a big billboard... advertising bottle feeding and formula.

    By Nestle.. ofcourse

    It made me so angry! Hungry women being told to buy formula, sterilize bottles and nipples... instead of supporting better health for breastfeeding.

    It was the first intance in my life that made me look at a big Corp.. with new eyes
    It's not surprising and all the chemicals from the sterilisation, I forgot that.

    They also program the parents to feed outside of a routine that a baby would naturally feed with. They've got to have so many ounces at a certain time.

    When my son was born, he hadn't breastfed for nearly a whole day and the nurses and midwives were telling me they were going to give him a bottle if he wouldn't feed off me. They totally stressed me out which made the whole thing worse.

    Fortunatley I was saved by a paedatrician who examined him and said he was nowhere near being dehydrated and it was normal for babies not to feed for the first day or so out of the womb.

    There's very little support for breastfeeding. Many women believe it is normal to have a body which can't breastfeed.
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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    Agreed Jen.

    Here are some ressources available almost worldwide.

    http://www.llli.org/

    Our Mission is to help mothers worldwide to breastfeed through mother-to-mother support, encouragement, information, and education, and to promote a better understanding of breastfeeding as an important element in the healthy development of the baby and mother.
    They were a great ressource for me

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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    This kind of stuff could be seen as an attack on different levels.

    In one sense they would be seeking to make the child weaker in a biological sense, you know maybe some crazy bastards could capitalize on a weak immunological system and then sell some medicine... can sound very conspiracy-like, but this world is so backwards that it wouldn't surprise me if they actually do it.

    From another perspective it is a very suggestive way to cut contact with the emotional self as well as the human body, you know I think breastfeeding helps to create sane emotional bridges, it also helps to build a healthy sense of trust and intimacy. But there are those who rather rule over a population who is afraid of eachother, afraid of intimacy, afraid of their own sexuality... so the system will take care of it and bombard the population with artificial replacements, toxic elements in which the broken individual can project their anxiety and find some degree of comfort.

    Now, the culture seems to be moving into a direction where breasfeeding is not "in" anymore, looks like these days some people act because it's trendy instead of acting because it is wise to do so. You canl see the medical branch of the system promoting synthetic milk which is much better (according to them) for the health of the baby, a sort of miraculous snake-oil... these experts insist so much and will use the media machinery for getting their message across that some people will not see their own body as "worthy enough", now the technocratic dictatorship has come with the best alternative to human contact: synthetic milk created by "geniuses".

    Now I would think using baby bottles with artificial nipples is fine in an emergency, you know if conditions don't allow for direct contact. But it is a different matter altogether when this is made the norm... I mean this is some sick stuff going on, you replace the natural and warm mother's breast for some plastic nipple, which can't even begin to compare to the real deal... then you make this plastic breast so popular, that you don't even allow the child to go trough a healthy process of emotional maduration, effectively making children get stuck. -heck thinking about this it becomes clearer why some people are so damn infantile-

    One can start to see that the empire of death is very knowledgeable in human development and consciousness... this knowledge is being used against us to the point where it becomes the norm, the "right" thing to do. Fu ck that I say... time to use that knowledge to evolve.

    Oh another thing to note, is that the process of denying breastfeeding causes stress in the child, heck I wouldn't be surprised if this has an impact on the mother too... unless she has become more drone-like rather than human. Breastfeeding is one of the first encounters with human sexuality, effectively relaxing the body. Deny it and then you start fuc king up children, stressing them and making them neurotic. More mommy tits, less feeding tubes.

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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    This is a huge issue, and everyone in our society is affected by it. Most either were not breast fed at all, or are not breastfeeding their own children, due to many misconceptions and lack of support.

    It's normal, it's natural, and it's what mammals do.

    And it is in the best interests of the control freaks that try to run the show to have you give your children melamine laced artificial breast milk, commonly called 'formula'. Nature makes the very best formula.

    It's just common sense, really. Unfortunately common sense isn't all that common anymore...


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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    Quote Originally Posted by C?line View Post
    When i was 20... (eons ago..), I was kicked out of a Mcd's for breatfeeding my newborn..

    Seems the problem has not gotten better...
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    Re: Breastfeeding mom takes on Facebook nudity policy

    Quote Originally Posted by reaver View Post
    This kind of stuff could be seen as an attack on different levels.

    In one sense they would be seeking to make the child weaker in a biological sense, you know maybe some crazy bastards could capitalize on a weak immunological system and then sell some medicine... can sound very conspiracy-like, but this world is so backwards that it wouldn't surprise me if they actually do it.
    This is absolutely the case. Whole industries operate on providing services to said sick people. Less sick people, less industry. It?s called the ?Medical Industry? for a reason, after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by reaver View Post
    From another perspective it is a very suggestive way to cut contact with the emotional self as well as the human body, you know I think breastfeeding helps to create sane emotional bridges, it also helps to build a healthy sense of trust and intimacy. But there are those who rather rule over a population who is afraid of eachother, afraid of intimacy, afraid of their own sexuality... so the system will take care of it and bombard the population with artificial replacements, toxic elements in which the broken individual can project their anxiety and find some degree of comfort.
    Removing breastfeeding also causes a ?failure to bond? between the mother and the child. It?s not too hard to see. The mother and child just don?t have that normal, natural, close bond that they should.

    Quote Originally Posted by reaver View Post
    Now I would think using baby bottles with artificial nipples is fine in an emergency, you know if conditions don't allow for direct contact. But it is a different matter altogether when this is made the norm... I mean this is some sick stuff going on, you replace the natural and warm mother's breast for some plastic nipple, which can't even begin to compare to the real deal... then you make this plastic breast so popular, that you don't even allow the child to go trough a healthy process of emotional maduration, effectively making children get stuck. -heck thinking about this it becomes clearer why some people are so damn infantile-
    This is very true. Many people don?t even question what they are fed in the way of news and information, and don?t care enough to bother to look for any shred of truth. Part of this is from being literally ?damaged goods?, and dumbed down to the point where they have no desire to seek new knowledge or truths on their own, and will gladly let some talking head on television feed them their pre-manufactured opinions.


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