Parents uptight after primary school gets pupils to give each other massages

[pillaroflight]

More 'hands on" prisoner training?

Parents are up in arms at a primary school where youngsters have been giving each other massages before lessons.

The ten-minute massage sessions were introduced at Sheffield's Hartley Brook Primary School to help calm down pupils after lunch breaks.

School head Mrs Chris Hobson said the massage sessions have been a big success but some parents have withdrawn their children from the massage programme claiming it is 'inappropriate'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1jqNSN6Nf

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[VajraYaya]

OH MY GOD!! We can't have people touching each other in helpful ways. MY God, we MUST teach them that touching another human is the work of the devil.

This is what happens in sexually repressed cultures. It's sad.

[Odah]

arrest all the little boys in the program and give them sex offender status for life..

i heard a story where a group of kids was sceen by the principle patting eachother on the butts and had the boys arrested and charged with sexual assault of a minor and removed from school ..

then about 8 years ago in my city there was a six year old arrested for poking a female student in the back..

[pillaroflight]

OH MY GOD!! We can't have people touching each other in helpful ways. MY God, we MUST teach them that touching another human is the work of the devil.

This is what happens in sexually repressed cultures. It's sad.

Actually, that's not what I meant at all. The "training" is teaching children that allowing others (some of whom they may not like or WANT touching them) to feel you up is normal and MUST be tolerated--as in TSA groping us and our children and grandparents at the airport and now train stations and more and more.

It's all part of the psyop of training us to accept having our boundaries violated--prisoner training. We will have been "trained" to accept strangers putting their hands all over us, falsely believing having a casual acceptance indicates how "liberal and progressive" we are--thinking we are so much more "advanced" than those lesser "repressed cultures"......

[VajraYaya]

Actually, that's not what I meant at all. The "training" is teaching children that allowing others (some of whom they may not like or WANT touching them) to feel you up is normal and MUST be tolerated--as in TSA groping us and our children and grandparents at the airport and now train stations and more and more.

It's all part of the psyop of training us to accept having our boundaries violated--prisoner training. We will have been "trained" to accept strangers putting their hands all over us, falsely believing having a casual acceptance indicates how "liberal and progressive" we are--thinking we are so much more "advanced" than those lesser "repressed cultures"......

I think I may have misunderstood you. I have not yet finished the article. I completely agree with everything you say above. These days school is ALL about conditioning kids to accept a police state and that they do not even have bodily sovereignty.

But, [I'm not sure what exactly the article is saying yet.] I DO think that a massage idea like this could be a good thing IF IT IS PROPERLY INTRODUCED AND TAUGHT. Massages are very relaxing and can indeed calm. Also I think it could help teach kids about the sensitivity of others, and make them more empathetic and more sensitive to others energies. BUT, the central part of this should be that NO child should be forced to have anybody touch them if they don't want it, nor should they be forced to touch someone else if they don't want to. The kids should be able to opt out, without prejudice or judgment. That should be paramount. But this could help to break down false prejudices towards others and actually help kids to grow emphatically.

If parents are just upset because they have the distorted idea that all touching is about sex, that is a problem. That is what I meant in my above comment.

[VajraYaya]

I think also that in running a massage [I"m looking for a better word than 'program' here that describes it better, I'll just use it for the moment.] program like this, the first thing that should be taught is for the kid who is going to give a massage, to ask the potential receiver if they would like a massage, if they are okay with getting massaged touched, and wait for and honor the answer. Mood has to be respected. Sometimes they may want it, sometimes not.

Yoga could be good too, but I think massage is something that could take less time out of the day than a yoga moment.

Really, I think yoga classes should be a mandatory part of all school curricula, just like phys ed.

[Odah]

running a massage class where you teach kids the difference between appropriate and innapropriate touch can be fine ..

I doubt that this is part of any clandestine program to get people use to getting groped.. there was much much worse when little kids where singing the obama yes we can songs with there parent prouldly clapping at the end..

the entire overparenting craze that is the way things are today is the way the powers that be want it ..never let kid decide what they want to do with their time.. for most of their lives have mom or dad fully schedual them ..so they never get to just play.. then ship them off to colledge where they rack up a mortgage in debt for a goverment backed student loan.. then have them spen the rest of their lives working to pay back the government..but as the government creats an envirionment of dropping wages ..and higher taxes.. the kids willbe faced with never having enough left over to really live on .

edit..bahh here i go bantering on again

[Anchor]

-- Sorry about my "joke" that was here before, I didnt read the thread properly and now I have and realise it was totally off-base --

[flower]

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Really, I think yoga classes should be a mandatory part of all school curricula, just like phys ed.

I COMPLETLY agree

[Going by]

Actually, that's not what I meant at all. The "training" is teaching children that allowing others (some of whom they may not like or WANT touching them) to feel you up is normal and MUST be tolerated--as in TSA groping us and our children and grandparents at the airport and now train stations and more and more.

It's all part of the psyop of training us to accept having our boundaries violated--prisoner training. We will have been "trained" to accept strangers putting their hands all over us, falsely believing having a casual acceptance indicates how "liberal and progressive" we are--thinking we are so much more "advanced" than those lesser "repressed cultures"......

oH please, are you going nuts yourself? One of the LEAST touching culture IS the American one and yet, this IS the culture that allows for TSA groping.

Massage on the back, hugs between friends, are a sign of normal behavior amongst friends all over the planet. IT IS THE WAY to show children that this NATURAL INSTINCTIVE behavior is normal, while the groping one is not. When children do have the natural behavior readily lived, they know very well when a touching behavior is uncomfortable and can readily make the difference.

IF ou look at the Soviets, they were not much of a touching culture either, and look how controlled they were.

My bet is that American cannot make the difference anymore.

Take the human being away from one of its senses (here the kinesthesic physical sensory touching sense), any sense, and you have an unbalanced being. Make sure a whole culture has his members cut off from one of the sensory pathways, you get an unbalanced culture. Easy to manipulate then.

Ask any behavior expert.

[Going by]

I am now reading other posts after the one cited above. I cannot believe you guys.....

TOUCHING IS NATURAL. What is going with having to show the appropriate touching..... for God sake. Even massage classes are not necessary is we let kids be. The french, kiss their kid on both cheeks, and hug, Latin hug quite a lot, Russian kiss friends on the mouth, all the middle East including Israel hug quite a lot and hold hands with friends, what are you talking about here...

Let kid be, the only thing to show is the inappropriate touching to avoid mainly because of mass media teaching to do inapprorpiate touching.

[flower]

Touch is essentiel... I agree


Now... put this into context and reality.

Think of those bullies, think of how it would feel for some to be touched by people who hate them.

School is NOT a place to teach touch IMO

[Going by]

I completely disagree C?line.

School is the place to teach what not to do in order not to ham others as well as home.

However, massage would not need to be shown if we were not overwhelmed with Lady Gaga whore stands and porn available to 8 years old on the internet. In fact, if parents and friends were feeling comfortable with thier own body and their warm touching. This needs to show what has been denaturalised (but was natural to start with) comes from skewed and screwed up education of the adults to start with. And of their accepted culture as being normal: not touching.

[flower]

When my kids were little...

I was struggling with extreme mistrust of men...

any man (except their father)...i felt was a potential threat..

Logical or not ...it is how i felt.

My kids would have gotten pulled from any school that had a massage program

[Going by]

I am sorry for that C?line, they might have missed on trust. You know when everything is public, during class hours (not outside) with 26 kids in the class and subject to the direction involvement, very little wrong could happen.

Outside hours is different. In sport teams, massage is a norm and happens often, yet supervision is much less.

[Jenci]

I was watching the boys aged 8 to 9 outside the school gate the other day. They were playing "it", a tag game. They were all chasing after each other, touching each other, falling against each other, holding each other. It was very natural.

It us older ones who have developed this sense of space around us that no-one must enter, certainly people we do not have a close relationship with.

I see no problem with schools doing this and I would I guess for the kids it felt natural.

Teaching children where it is inappropriate to touch and to be touched, is another matter.
Jeanette

[flower]

Yes yes yes... in a perfect world you are correct...

may i remind you this world is FAR from perfect...

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This is the world our children live in...

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We as humans...are not balanced... why would we expect our kids to be??

[Going by]

For the development of the 5 senses, they naturally are, otherwise they are like my daughter (missing - having to learn- this key component of analysis of verbal sounds), or blind or deaf.

It is us adults who unbalance them through what you just showed above or through our frights or through television/internet, etc.

Massage for Brain Development

by Tina Allen, LMT, CPMMT, CPMT, CIMT
Updated July 2011

A baby’s brain is twice as active as an adult’s brain. When a baby is born, they have billions of brain cells, many of which are not yet connected. Those cells become connected through new experiences. When you talk to your baby, cuddle him and touch him lovingly, these new experiences start to make those essential brain connections.

The first three years are of special importance. During this time the brain has the greatest potential for learning and developing. In early childhood, the brain is genetically programmed to produce more synapses, (point of connection between two nerve cells), than it will ever use. The development of the brain will keep the synapses that are used and lose those that

http://www.liddlekidz.com/massage-fo...velopment.html

Twenty-one preschool-age children (mean age, two years) with Down syndrome participated in the study. Participants were randomly assigned to either a treatment group, which received two half-hour massage-therapy sessions per week for two months, in addition to other therapies; or a control group, which received two half-hour reading sessions per week for two months, in addition to other therapies. Both groups' participants also received early intervention consisting of physical therapy, occupational therapy and speech therapy.

Massage treatments were provided by licensed massage therapists, who conducted each session in a quiet, private area of a preschool center on the campus of the University of Miami School of Medicine. The control group's sessions were also conducted by massage therapists, who read Dr. Seuss books to the

children in the same setting.
Treatment consisted of a 30-minute massage session with the child lying on a small mat on the floor. A massage sequence was repeated three times on the following areas of the body: legs and feet; stomach; chest; arms and hands; face; and back.

The following functioning levels were assessed at the beginning and the end of the study, using the Developmental Programming for Infants and Young Children scale: motor, self-care, social/emotional, language and cognition. Muscle tone was assessed using a new preliminary scale, the Arms, Legs and Trunk Muscle Tone Score.
http://www.massagemag.com/News/massa...-down-syndrome

From the time of their birth until late toddlerhood most babies in south Asia spend at least part of their day in the courtyard of their homes or upon the rooftop being massaged by the women of the house-hold. By the term massage we refer to rubbing the body with oil or some other ointment and to warming one's hands over a fire and then pressing them, palms open, to the body such that the warmth is transferred to the other person. Both these actions, but especially the former, are structured by a variety of purposes: to clean, beautify, strengthen, limber up and fatten the baby as well as to instill in it positive mental-emotional qualities. Massage is also an important means of healing a sick, weakly child. The purpose of our research note is to recount the beliefs and prac-tices connected with massage and to consider their implications for child development.
http://www.dur.ac.uk/n.n.reissland/p...uth%20asia.pdf

Stress and Anxiety Relief
Massage reduces stress hormone levels and blood glucose levels. According to Maria Hernandez-Reif, a researcher at the Touch Research Institute, lower stress hormones not only reduce feelings of anxiety but contribute to a healthier immune system. The immune system fights illnesses by defending the body against toxins, parasites, bacteria, microbes, pathogens and viruses. Due to its relaxing effect, massage has been found to reduce asthma symptoms in children and help them adhere to a sometimes painful diabetes treatment program.

Stimulates Motor Development
Children are developing their motor (movement) skills as they grow. Massage helps ease tension and pain in developing muscles that make motor skills possible. A study by the University of Miami indicates that massage improved motor function in children with Down syndrome, and the Journal of Pediatric Psychology reports that massage improved motor ability in children infected with HIV.

Stimulates Cognitive Development
According to Early Child Development and Care, preschoolers performed better on an IQ test following a 15-minute massage than they did from reading books. The International Journal of Neuroscience reported that massage improved function in the brain, resulting in increased alertness as well as speed and accuracy during math problems.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/11...sage-children/

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Specific studies into the benefits of Massage in Schools include:

A study conducted by Renfrewshire Council to assess the impact of massage compared to storytelling and pair activities. The study indicated that massage can help to improve pupils' concentration levels. The participating parents, children and teachers were all keen to continue using the Massage in Schools Programme in their school, after the study was completed.

You can also view endorsements for the Massage in Schools Programme from other Scottish Primary Schools, who have already successfully introduced the programme.

General touch research:

There have been many scientific studies conducted over the years, to assess the wide-ranging benefits of massage in both adults, children and infants. Check out the Touch Research Institute in Miami to view the latest.

Some studies with non-typically developing individuals demonstrate that massage can help to:

■Decrease hyperactivity and fidgeting, and increase concentration, in children with ADHA (Field, QUintino, Hernandez-Reif & Koslovsky, 1998a).
■Reduce stereotypical behaviour and social difficulties in children diagnosed with autism (Escalona, Field, Singer-Strunk, Cullen & Hartshorn, 2001).
■Reduce agression (Diego, Field, Hernandez-Reif, Shaw, Rothe, Castellanos & Messner, 2002).
■Enhance altertness (Field, Ironson, Scafidi, Nawrocki, Goncalves, Burman, Pickens, Fox, Schanberg & Kuhn, 1996)
■Improve mood (Kilnana, Field, Hernandez-Reif & Schanberg, 2003)
■Decrease depression (Field, Schanberg, Kuhn, Field, Fierro, Henteleff, Mueller, Yando, Shaw & Burman, 1998b)
http://www.knotstressed.com/misp-res...d-endorsments/

There is litterally thousands of research on the topic all concluding the same. Why wouldn't you give this benefit to children? This is precisely where brainwashing of PTB comes in. Because it helps in their development.

Furthermore, good teachers are completely overwhelmed by the disastrous affect of television, video games (children do not even speak face to face anymore, they text each other instead even when face to face, think about i), absent parents, and they are trying their best to find things to help the children, why wouldn't we help instead of opposing?

[flower]

I never said.. Dont teach children that touch is a good thing..

I said.. school is not the place to do this

[Odah]

if the massage stays to the back of the head ..the neck and the shoulders .. it is really fine ..but that is where the line is drawn.. especcially when there is a probabilty 15 years down the road someone will recall these memories ..and if the touch goes any lower.. the person ( cousilor ..hypnotist .or shrink ) will probably impose memopries of sexual abuse that didn't happen ..

honestly i know have known ..have a very real bad habit of only getting close to those who have survived/suffered sexual trauma early on ..so making kids submit to being touched in any way.. unless it is in the natural state of play with other kids .. is a dangerus path.

As for me I am an aspie..high function autism.. i really do not like being tough unless i want someone touching me .. with a preferance for female hands ..and even in my thirties if another guy touches me i shreak away ..

you have to take into account that not all the kids will react to having no choice but to be touched ..the same way.. the program is fine if it gives children the choice to take part..and the touching stay to safe areas..and it is between the kids and constantly monitored.

[Odah]

with the natural autism being diagnosed more often and the vaccine induced autism .. it is likely that the number of children with autism like behavioral or development issues .. is 1 in 50 to 1 in 100 ..when you don't naturally grasp the response of the other person it is real easy to cross lines and commit inappropriate acts without realizing it ..

putting a child who is already struggling with his or her difference .. in a situation where they can easily break rules they do not understand ..is not really fair ..no matter how well intentioned it is .. having just one child in the program walk away with the feeling of abuse .. or having one child get their life ruined being accused of abuse.. well ..it touch is a touchy subject

[Unified Serenity]

They could put the students in a calm frame of mind by doing a simple 4,7,8 breathing technique. It takes less than a couple of minutes, and no one needs to touch you. No visualization needed, just a physiological method to reset the sympathetic system.

Dr. Weiss has taught this to his patients over the years, has books out on it and they use it to stop panic attacks, heart palpitations so they can get to some hospital for help if needed. I don't trust any program the public schools promote these days. I cannot imagine sitting in some classroom with a bunch of peers, many of whom are complete jackwads, who are now going to put their hands on me? I think not. Oh and btw, I went to massage school and I didn't let just any student in my class perform massage on me. There were several who gave off very perverse energy of "Oooooh, I can't wait to massage you!" Ick

[Anchor]

Sorry about my "Joke" earlier - I didn't read the thread properly.

I edited it out, please can who ever quoted that ridiculous thing I said please remove the quotes.

[pillaroflight]

putting a child who is already struggling with his or her difference .. in a situation where they can easily break rules they do not understand ..is not really fair ..no matter how well intentioned it is .. having just one child in the program walk away with the feeling of abuse .. or having one child get their life ruined being accused of abuse.. well ..it touch is a touchy subject

I know when I was a kid, I would have hated this. The thought of some of those kids rubbing on me--or of having to touch other kids that I disliked and disliked me--ugh

oH please, are you going nuts yourself? One of the LEAST touching culture IS the American one and yet, this IS the culture that allows for TSA groping.

I would say, Going By, that the issue is the inappropriateness of touching in this way at school, not the value or benefit of massage. And hugging is not the same as groping with your hands.

[Janos]

Training for this, perhaps?



I agree that the massage training isn't a bad thing. But that school isn't the place for it.

If ANYONE had laid hands on me in school that I didn't like or want touching me, they'd have had broken digits. I think it all boils down to the level of maturity, and I hate to say, but American students, even high school students, by and large simply don't have it. They aren't raised to, and that is part of a much, much, larger issue.