Kavassilas ..not giving our power away

[Krystic]

Kavassilas discusses how people give their power away to beings who project "love and light"..the new age movement and guru traps are heavily involved in this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3SdIZY7hg

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[?uestions]

yeah he's stuck by his message. though he provides no evidence he's been consistent and fair.

i actually like to hear him speak =)

[Krystic]

part 2 of the interview is very important to think about

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4sF6..._order&list=UL

[?uestions]

i'll check it out later. i wanted to listen to a mel fabragas and dolores cannon interview. i'll check it later.

cheers mate

[Fred Steeves]

Thanks Krystic, I always enjoy hearing what old GK has to say. He's on my short list of people in the public eye I'd invite down the pub for a beer, or two, or three.

[dim]

yeah, the intergalactic guy next door

[Jenci]

While George does appear to be saying we should not give our power away to groups like GLF, he does give mixed messages about Consciousness and what we are.

According to George we are the oldest and wisest race and will be the way showers. Other groups like the greys and reptilians are from the lower dimensions of 1D and 2D so we are better than them. To understand anything about Consciousness is to understand that it is beyond all of this 'someone is better than someone else'. In this regard, I see George doing exactly what the GLF is doing, keeping us trapped in this dualistic cycle.

This is also what George had to say in this second video. I've paraphrased the discussion but this is the general content of it:-

GK: In the 5th dimension there is no technology, no illnesses, no disease, no disharmony

L: Is this something we will reach?

GK: Of course

L: I've heard the date 21st March 2013......so the big turning point when the love, the paradise is present every day, all the time ?

GK: Yes. Really soon, around that time or maybe soon after or maybe before.

L: Everybody?

GK: Not everybody.

So there you have it. We are a superior race and we are going to paradise on 21 March 2013 or before or after that date But not everyone will be saved. Does this sound familiar?



Jeanette

[Unified Serenity]

Sung to the tune of 99 bottles of beer on the wall.....'My God's better than your god, my God's better than yours, My Gods better than your god, you're all going to hell oneeee dayyyyy"

EDIT:

For those who cannot tell my tone, I was being sarcastic. Not making a proclamation. I hope I don't have to put disclaimers on everything in the future, but for a while I guess I will.

[flower]

GK: Yes. Really soon, around that time or maybe soon after or maybe before.

how precise....

[Unified Serenity]

how precise....

Isn't it though?

[Jenci]

how precise....

I love it. At least no one can say he got it wrong because he is covering all eventualities.
Jeanette

[reaver]

According to George we are the oldest and wisest race and will be the way showers.

That does it for me, guy is full of it.

[Odah]

Watching the interview .. he is complaining about the essence of the evelution of consiousness..after tens of thousands of years of manipulation ..Humanity could only accept the guidance if it had come from beings who where outside humanity .. but in many cases from the information i have seen a lot of it has stressed that they are helping you remember ..and look within ..

There are still many many people in the look without mode .. as long as they eventually learn to look within .. and develope in that direction.. the information isn't bad.. It is when people get trained or get in the mode..that the gfl will come to save them or the alians will come to save them.. or jesus will return and save them .. it gets dangerous

[Unified Serenity]

My favorite line though in all sincerity is that the kingdom of Goddess is within. And we are admonished to seek first the kingdom of Goddess and all these things will be added unto you.

I love truth.

[Fred Steeves]

So there you have it. We are a superior race and we are going to paradise on 21 March 2013 or before or after that date But not everyone will be saved. Does this sound familiar?

Hi Jeanette, I don't recall George using the word, or meaning "saved". His message is consistently more of a parting of the ways, do to differing decisions as to soul purpose in a given time frame. If asked, I'm certain he would agree that in the "end"(ha ha) all make their way home in their own time and fashion.

"Hi everybody! Sorry I'm so late, but I just COULDN'T stop f*****g around and losing myself. Then again, that was my chosen way".

I can relate to that.

Cheers,
Fred

[dim]

it's really easy to quote bits and pieces out of anyone and draw a rough sketch ultimately reflecting your own conditioning
but then again who isn't crucified on the interwebs... oh well.

[Jenci]

Hi Jeanette, I don't recall George using the word, or meaning "saved". His message is consistently more of a parting of the ways, do to differing decisions as to soul purpose in a given time frame. If asked, I'm certain he would agree that in the "end"(ha ha) all make their way home in their own time and fashion.

"Hi everybody! Sorry I'm so late, but I just COULDN'T stop f*****g around and losing myself. Then again, that was my chosen way".

I can relate to that.

Cheers,
Fred

Hi Fred,

You're right in that he does talk about a pre-determined outcome for individuals. 'Not saved' was my own expression. He said not everyone is going to reach the paradise of the 5th dimension (@8.40 in second video).

So what does that mean for those who don't go there? Are they stuck here with war, disease and perhaps without loved ones who have gone to paradise? I wonder whether they would consider themselves 'not saved'?

The issue I have with what George is talking about, is the divisivness and exclusivity of this. It's more of the same of the 'have's and the 'have nots'. I can't see how this is generated by higher levels of Consciousness.

"Hi everybody! Sorry I'm so late, but I just COULDN'T stop f*****g around and losing myself. Then again, that was my chosen way".

I know what you are saying because ultimately everyone is saved because there is no death and yes, we did choose this path. I should keep that quiet here really
Jeanette

[Fred Steeves]

So what does that mean for those who don't go there? Are they stuck here with war, disease and perhaps without loved ones who have gone to paradise? I wonder whether they would consider themselves 'not saved'?

The issue I have with what George is talking about, is the divisivness and exclusivity of this. It's more of the same of the 'have's and the 'have nots'.

Ah yes, now we're getting down into the core of things. I'm glad you brought that up Jeanette, because what he's talking about is often associated with a rapture type of separation like in Revelations.

I don't think that there will be any separation what so ever. It goes right back to the timeline splitting thing. I think Jane Roberts hits it dead on talking about multiple selves. In that respect the part of any one's self ready to move on will do so, the part that wants to stay and play longer on the merry go round will also do so. I don't think anyone staying would even have as inkling that anything has happened. The game just continues on.

I surmise that this may indeed have already happened many times. Perhaps it's a cycle with regular getting out points, but one has to have grown tired of, and recognised the game to be done with it.

Reminds me of the saying: "To see the farm is to leave it".

Cheers,
Fred

[Jenci]

Ah yes, now we're getting down into the core of things. I'm glad you brought that up Jeanette, because what he's talking about is often associated with a rapture type of separation like in Revelations.

I don't think that there will be any separation what so ever. It goes right back to the timeline splitting thing. I think Jane Roberts hits it dead on talking about multiple selves. In that respect the part of any one's self ready to move on will do so, the part that wants to stay and play longer on the merry go round will also do so. I don't think anyone staying would even have as inkling that anything has happened. The game just continues on.

I surmise that this may indeed have already happened many times. Perhaps it's a cycle with regular getting out points, but one has to have grown tired of, and recognised the game to be done with it.

Reminds me of the saying: "To see the farm is to leave it".

Cheers,
Fred

I see what you are saying, Fred. I can relate to that in terms of a different dimension, less dense, more light, happening at the same time as the other.

I'm not familiar with Jane Roberts. Do you recommend anything in particular?
Jeanette

[Fred Steeves]

I'm not familiar with Jane Roberts. Do you recommend anything in particular?
Jeanette

Sure, "Adventures in Consciousness: An Introduction to Aspect Psychology" written in 1974 is partucularly interesting. Fair warning though, the Seth Material is channeled. It's one of the few channeled works I take seriously however.

Cheers,
Fred

[Dreamwalker]

last year i was listening to a interview by Kavassilas(can,t remember which one) concerning 2012 and portals opening up and we or some of humanity are going to move on!
but early on in the interview he said that his plans for this year was to renovate his house!
well make of it what you will but my guess is he and his family must be staying.

It goes right back to the timeline splitting thing. I think Jane Roberts hits it dead on talking about multiple selves. In that respect the part of any one's self ready to move on will do so, the part that wants to stay and play longer on the merry go round will also do so.

if there are multipal selfs making taking every descision that their is andliving in the string theory world.
which one is the true self.what is the piont of selfs splitting and each not being aware of each other?
it just doe,s not make sense.
we are in the here and now .

but if anyone happens to bump into one of my otherselfs who has made it big in the other dimension please tell him to give me a bell,as i could use his help.

[Gardener]

Yea I appreciated the Seth material, and like you Fred it is one of the few channelled material that jives with my 'frequency' lol 'Nature of personal reality' I still have somewhere. (Jenci if you would like to read it I will go look for it pm me.)

One thing they all seem to avoid is talking about death. Like here's how you will not need to die, yea right! All of the seven billion on earth will die within the next hundred years, ok well maybe not all maybe some extra specially evolved souls can transcend (not ascend) death, but hey it can include the black hats who have evolved a black magnetic centre and such. (speculation)

It is a service to self mind set that believes they can transcend death they are 'so self important, body centric' Heck who wants to stay here in this gravity? If you still think you do then tell me again when you are over 60.

I'm on a rant so I will continue: Going back to who's going to die and who isn't when the smelly stuff hits the rotating object in the not too distant future. Most of us.

There is a cyclical cometary bombardment, (see dinosaurs for factual evidence) and the 'global warming', cyclically precedes an ice age. Magnetic pole flips occur with regular monotony; these are geological facts according to data from ice cores. None of that says its any day soon, but it might be.

But there is another aspect, and I do have a teeny tiny personal experience. I have reason to speculate that a massive quantum wave collapse accross the universe has the potential to shift our reality into something many might not be prepared for. But never mind, if we transition during this event (croak) we likely will be enjoying having a chat with our recently departed friends and relatives in the fifth density resting and recycling dept, bypassing the fourth.

Ok rant over for now, got to clean out the chickens and get grounded.

g

[Jenci]

But there is another aspect, and I do have a teeny tiny personal experience. I have reason to speculate that a massive quantum wave collapse accross the universe has the potential to shift our reality into something many might not be prepared for.

Hi Gardener,
What do you mean by a quantum wave collapse? It's not a term I have heard before.
Jeanette

[Gardener]

Hi Gardener,
What do you mean by a quantum wave collapse? It's not a term I have heard before.
Jeanette

At the quantum level, energetic. Something triggering a fundamental change in the energy structure here in this place.

Edit: For example, a significant numer of humankind having a raise of consciousness thus affecting the whole.

[Jenci]

But there is another aspect, and I do have a teeny tiny personal experience. I have reason to speculate that a massive quantum wave collapse accross the universe has the potential to shift our reality into something many might not be prepared for.

At the quantum level, energetic. Something triggering a fundamental change in the energy structure here in this place.

Edit: For example, a significant numer of humankind having a raise of consciousness thus affecting the whole.

Of course I don't know but you could be right

Jeanette