Elites take DMT to see clockwork elves - Alex Jones

[ZookieMonster]

In my opinion, the dilemma occurs earlier than that. Given the nature of the deceptive game being played, we often cannot distinguish BS from truth. That is the real dilemma, and it is by design.

There is no dilemma with the probabilistic stuff, e.g. 9/11/2001 Inside Job, private Fed Reserve Act, JP Morgan vs Tesla, Agenda 21, Dolly Parton's cup size, etc. Observables are what they are. The dilemma begins with the imaginables, e.g. the soft stuff that is founded on possibility.

That's jumping to extremes. Too often, the hard evidence is lacking. In fact, almost all evidence is lacking, and that too is by design. The concept of plausible deniability is fundamental to the game of deception being perpetrated against us. Throwing away the sketchy evidence will leave us with nothing.

That standard of evidence either satisfies a minimum probability threshold ... or it does not. When it looks like a quacker, walks like a quacker, talks like a quacker ... then we know it's not a dromedary. Human measurements are what they are ... probabilities within confidence intervals. I submit that it is not extreme to dismiss the improbable (by reasonable standard of evidence) ... and may even be extreme to entertain the improbable at the expense of the probable. Living in finite time and space as travelers, I further submit that we are not afforded the luxury of infinite probation. That we must make our evaluations on the fly and on the known facts. The crush of time is hard on the elderly ... but no more generous on the scholarly.

IMO, tolerance for extreme views should be in proportion to the aberration of those views from the observable facts. As a rule. You'll always find the Copernican exceptions.

I propose that the proper way to deal with the realities of this dilemma is to throw nothing away. Keep every puzzle piece you are given, but with the realization that it may not be a part of the puzzle. Don't try to decide whether it is or not, because you cannot know. Instead, keep it handy, checking from time to time if it might fit the puzzle picture you are working on. Because that picture changes as it expands, any puzzle piece may be the one that fits the blank you need filled. Or it might be a better match than a piece you are currently using, because it has a better fit and superior context. Such a strategy will allow you to complete the puzzle and see the whole picture. Sure, you will also end up with a large pile of unused puzzle pieces, but that doesn't matter if you succeed in completing the puzzle picture. That, after all, is the goal -- to see the big picture and know the truth.

That's what our long term storage space is for, Chico ... biological diskspace ... to store information away. Not to keep loading up and consume our biological RAM, leaving a a diminished amount for useful data and processing. If newbies want in on the data set, the Nexus archives are there to access pro and con arguments for GFL, Ashyana Deane, Kerry and the Sunshine gals, Bob Dean, Inelia, Burisch, looking cubes, leering balls, all-seeing peaks of pyramids, jump rooms to Mars, etc..

I just happen to be one of those misfits who requires harder facts than "the vehicle of assertions" can deliver ... before I submit my biological RAM to the unbearable lightness of almost being. I respect that you may have much more RAM to throw around than I do.

[Ross]

Had this passed onto me from a dear friend:

Clockwork elves....machine elves, graham Hancock looked into this in his book supernatural. From dmt studies it seems that peeps injected with it go through a place where these 'elves' work at an interdimentional travel switch board. Rather like old telephone switch boards. However a person can be 'altered' in mind to bypass this and straight to place they want/know. It's the core of shamanism in our world, being able to 'travel'

[Dreamwalker]

any one know where i can get some DMT.just that i would like to see the truth for self.
and if it don,t work, well it might be a interesting trip

[Odah]

That's what our long term storage space is for, Chico ... biological diskspace ... to store information away. Not to keep loading up and consume our biological RAM, leaving a a diminished amount for useful data and processing. If newbies want in on the data set, the Nexus archives are there to access pro and con arguments for GFL, Ashyana Deane, Kerry and the Sunshine gals, Bob Dean, Inelia, Burisch, looking cubes, leering balls, all-seeing peaks of pyramids, jump rooms to Mars, etc..

interestingly enough as far out as my views may seem.. i tend to dump out a lot of stuff that doesn't fit into what i see as the storyline of history ..aka a group of unseen entities empowering a small number of humans to dominate the rest of humanity..with the masses giving their power to higher forces ..and these entities feeding off the negative emotions of humanity..i prefer not to get to cought up with how it is done..or how they plan to keep doing it.. business as usual ..

The way this info is released though.. does make those in the alternative media ..good feasts for the beings behind this ..as this stuff is meant to touch off large amounts of negative emotions ..in a way the communty could be a better feasting ground for these beings than most of the rest of the population.. as many seem addicted to the fear porn of conspiracy research ..

[lightblue]

Had this passed onto me from a dear friend:

hancock may not be the best authority on the subject.. tho he tripped on ajauasca he bit more than he could chew - in his own words (one of the vid interviews).i.... fact remains he did have an experience but i am still most unsure what did he draw from it except seeing other beings we don't normally register... l

[Odah]

hancock may not be the best authority on the subject.. tho he tripped on ajauasca he bit more than he could chew - in his own words (one of the vid interviews).i.... fact remains he did have an experience but i am still most unsure what did he draw from it except seeing other beings we don't normally register... l

Like the guru of death .. who cooked several of his high paying customers to death a few years ago.. claiming to be well versed in spiritual practice.. it is really scetchy to take part in some aspects of shamanic ritual without the lifetime of training to go along with it.. yes this being may have made him feel loved .. but a lot of these rituals had far more importance than research ....

[Chicodoodoo]

There is no dilemma with the probabilistic stuff, e.g. 9/11/2001 Inside Job, private Fed Reserve Act, JP Morgan vs Tesla, Agenda 21, Dolly Parton's cup size, etc.

I agree there is very little dilemma there.

Observables are what they are. The dilemma begins with the imaginables, e.g. the soft stuff that is founded on possibility.

Once again, I maintain the dilemma occurs earlier than that. It starts with the unobservables. The imaginables are a subset, to be sure, but there is far more in the set of unobservables than just the imaginables.

Note also in the set of observables is the subset of deceptions. That's where it looks like a quacker, walks like a quacker, talks like a quacker ... but it's not really a quacker.

That's what our long term storage space is for, Chico ... biological diskspace ... to store information away. Not to keep loading up and consume our biological RAM, leaving a a diminished amount for useful data and processing.

Agreed, but there is more to this than simply storing information away, meaning dismissing it. It is an iterative process. It goes back to my maxim, "question everything, dismiss nothing without good evidence". Part of questioning everything is questioning the evidence for what we have dismissed. That is the part where you periodically examine discarded puzzle pieces to see if they now have a place in the puzzle. Sure, we have limited time and limited brain capacity, so discernment is necessary to avoid being paralyzed or overwhelmed. It's a balancing act.

I respect that you may have much more RAM to throw around than I do.

Made me laugh! I'm sure we would both agree that the evidence for that is well below the minimum probability threshold.

[ZookieMonster]

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Once again, I maintain the dilemma occurs earlier than that. It starts with the unobservables. The imaginables are a subset, to be sure, but there is far more in the set of unobservables than just the imaginables.

Unobservables and imaginables are the stuff of blind faith, you'll agree. Hey, whatever floats the boat is okay with me, Chico ... as long as it is not then associated with rational process and/or valid argument.

Note also in the set of observables is the subset of deceptions. That's where it looks like a quacker, walks like a quacker, talks like a quacker ... but it's not really a quacker.

Agreed. Which is where discernment earns its medals, as it were. To discern between the real McCoy and the facsimiles (reasonable and otherwise) is a variation of to be or not to be. Those who choose not to be are already ascended. My own surprise stems from the almost fact that these ascensioneers almost always stop at 10 or 12 almost dimensions. If the almost math allows it, why not go for the googolplex of dimensions, I say? I mean, the fractal Universe has no upper limit in the best of times, and no lower limit in the worst, wot?

Agreed, but there is more to this than simply storing information away, meaning dismissing it. It is an iterative process. It goes back to my maxim, "question everything, dismiss nothing without good evidence". Part of questioning everything is questioning the evidence for what we have dismissed. That is the part where you periodically examine discarded puzzle pieces to see if they now have a place in the puzzle. Sure, we have limited time and limited brain capacity, so discernment is necessary to avoid being paralyzed or overwhelmed. It's a balancing act.

Again, agreed. Discernment. Balancing acts. These things are the guiding lanterns of a healthy life. I would submit that the best arrangement (or balance) of things is not in the time-driven fragmentation of the stored information drive ... but in periodic defragmentation of the hard disk AND post-defrag management of corrupted sectors (e.g. deletion/erasure). In short, recognize the corrupted sectors and dismiss/delete them to make the storage facility available for new data. The storage facility is finite <---------- important consideration. I still have several hard drives that have data on them (some from the 90s) ... retired largely because their storage capacity wasn't big enough for my purposes.

I respect that you may have much more RAM to throw around than I do.

Made me laugh! I'm sure we would both agree that the evidence for that is well below the minimum probability threshold.

LoL. Well, our processors and storage drives are comparable, sure enough ... but there is no doubt in my mind that you have triple or quadruple the biological RAM. So much RAM that you don't miss a sale when all kinds of curiosity shops open their doors on Nexus Street. Me?? My brain begins to cringe when I'm tempted in by the advertising crayons on the front page of Nexus. Love and Light Lollipops from Camelot; Billy Meier and dinosaurs on the Avalon tours; Mad Hatters from other Alicean wonderlands ... Helsinki, by the time I get me back to a fact-based thread, I'm barely able to stand up ... and confabulated beyond all repair that even a hundred million hydroxyl groups would have a time of it getting me up to speed again. In those times, I feel so abandoned by the thinking peoples ... that it feels like no one can set my brain cranking again, not even the White Queen of the Neuron Nymphs bearing giant jugs of intellect! Of course, invariably, just before I hop the hops and jump headfirst into a hangman's noose ... I feel an obligation to all the good folks, truthseekers, thinking peoples of Nexus and the world at large ... and will myself to contribute towards the righteous causes. Wish I had more RAM. Then I could allocate a good chunk of it Dan Dubious (I mean, Burisch); Colleen Caterwaul (I mean, Thomas); Ashyana Ascended (you know who I mean); Bill Balsam (I mean, Wood; or whatever his real name is) ... and their enablers, including King Ryan, Queen Kerry ... and their secret love child, Crownprince Wilcock.

Humble opinions all around.



ps: The first law of discernment: don't waste too much time on things already rejected by your intuition. Entertain for the sake of completeness. Then complete it.

[Odah]

ps: The first law of discernment: don't waste too much time on things already rejected by your intuition. Entertain for the sake of completeness. Then complete it.

totally agree ..

[Chicodoodoo]

Unobservables and imaginables are the stuff of blind faith, you'll agree.

No. Unobservables include magnetic fields, X-rays, black holes, nuclear radiation, and perhaps even consciousness. No one observes them directly, but are they the stuff of blind faith? Our ability to "see" can change, and unobservables can become observables, if we know what to look for.

The first law of discernment: don't waste too much time on things already rejected by your intuition. Entertain for the sake of completeness. Then complete it.

Is it a law, or a starting point? How much time is "too much"? What exactly is intuition? Why trust intuition over evidence and reason? What makes you think "complete" is a permanent state?

Yeah, that "question everything" maxim can be annoying, just like the "dismiss nothing" part....

[Krystic]

again...it's the game of keeping people stuck in the 3d mind 5 sense reality field that is the greatest tool of the controllers..if you want to base your "reality" at that level you will NEVER get far in the game..y

.are we to rely on MAINSTREAM science to "prove" to us what is real or imaginary while the secret HIDDEN science is years ahead in their "provables" and they dictate things from there
..are we to rely on our rigid 3d worldview to
prove to us what is real or imaginary while the psychics,remote viewers,spiritual vampires etc use their higher sensory perception and satanic ritualistic power to control the masses...WHICH THEY DO.

NO.we are here to awaken our higher senses so that we can KNOW how to play the REAL game...which is a war over CONCIOUSNESS...way beyond the 3d 5 sense reality understandings ...we must go way beyond politics,economics,3d mind debating...when we awaken our higher senses and ORGANIC GOD connection we will graduate...until then people who insist on sticking to the 3d mind 5 sense reality world view will continue to argue for their limitations and keep themselves trapped in their imaginary prisons...those who have awoken at least some of their higher senses KNOW this to be true...those who are addicted to internet forums and 3d mind debating don't even give themselves a chance to prove to themselves how real and powerful their extrasensory abilities are,,their monkey minds keep them occupied with relatively trivial matters

When we develop clearer communication with our essence we no longer look outside ourselves for prosperity,health,authority etc,,,which takes all the power away from these outside forces that want us to remain stuck in the 3d 5 sense reality "solutions" to these issues...namely politicians,doctors,economists..all 3d 5 sense mind slaves...

BE SOVEREIGN.nurture your inner GOD CONNECTION...instead of the mind masturbation that you have been conditioned to believe will solve things,can't you see that you are just going around and around in your VERY limited view of yourself and reality...always theorising but not experiencing gets you nowhere fast

[reaver]

So says the guy who went on to buy gold and silver for a 3D potential problem and keeps posting interviews which address 3D issues.

[Krystic]

I'm not saying "stop brushing your teeth"....or buying gold..I'm not saying the 3d is worthless and that we should just sit and meditate all day...20 mins a day creates HUGE beneffits and breakthroughs for a LOT of people..just another example fo how unplugging from the matrix and connecting in to higher planes is SO important

.and almost everything I post is about recognising that the issues we face come from beyond 3d 5 sense reality structures SO THE SOLUTIONS NEED to come from there as well...

funny how you Chicoo and Zookie just can't seem to grasp that.Why is it that you aren't willing to think about things SERIOUSLY beyond the 5sense 3d mind cage you are so firmly imprisoning yourselves in.

EXPERIENCE these things and you will KNOW that they are not imaginary ...millions of people have intuitive proofs everyday..they give themselves the chance to as they are not so firmly mind controlled and locked in to linear thinking.

It's so ironic that you guys speak of mind control so often yet you argue for that same mind control within that mind control.

Our intuition and inner self/guidance is so much wiser than our 3d linear minds will ever be...this part of ourselves informs us what actions to take in 3d and above so much better than the rational linear mind will ever be able to do

[Northern Boy]

NO.we are here to awaken our higher senses so that we can KNOW how to play the REAL game...which is a war over CONCIOUSNESS...way beyond the 3d 5 sense reality understandings ...we must go way beyond politics,economics,3d mind debating...when we awaken our higher senses and ORGANIC GOD connection we will graduate...until then people who insist on sticking to the 3d mind 5 sense reality world view will continue to argue for their limitations and keep themselves trapped in their imaginary prisons...those who have awoken at least some of their higher senses KNOW this to be true...those who are addicted to internet forums and 3d mind debating don't even give themselves a chance to prove to themselves how real and powerful their extrasensory abilities are,,their monkey minds keep them occupied with relatively trivial matters

When we develop clearer communication with our essence we no longer look outside ourselves for prosperity,health,authority etc,,,which takes all the power away from these outside forces that want us to remain stuck in the 3d 5 sense reality "solutions" to these issues...namely politicians,doctors,economists..all 3d 5 sense mind slaves...

BE SOVEREIGN.nurture your inner GOD CONNECTION...instead of the mind masturbation that you have been conditioned to believe will solve things,can't you see that you are just going around and around in your VERY limited view of yourself and reality...always theorising but not experiencing gets you nowhere fast

Are you at that stage yet where you are able to do all of this? If so why do you badger us with what we are doing is it that boring there as well. I understand that your reality is controlled by you or is it> If you walk in front of the bus will the bus pass thru you or over you ? will you merely feel the wind rush by as it pass`s thru or will the force of the impact result in turning you into something resembling road kill or medium ground beef

the reason i ask is because till we are able to reach that state we are stuck having to deal with everything else and if we ignore it now then we get the shaft if the bus for spiritual enlightenment shows up and we don`t have correct change

[magamud]

Krystic badgers because he himself is missing the grounding component which you have NB. No sh it there is a Gap! Just keep working on thawing the ice. Everyone is making progress..

[ZookieMonster]

again...it's the game of keeping people stuck in the 3d mind 5 sense reality field that is the greatest tool of the controllers..if you want to base your "reality" at that level you will NEVER get far in the game..y

I need physical or metaphysical proofs ... not assertions and angels on a pin doing Bill Ray Cyrus's line dance on a point.

.are we to rely on MAINSTREAM science to "prove" to us what is real or imaginary while the secret HIDDEN science is years ahead in their "provables" and they dictate things from there
..are we to rely on our rigid 3d worldview to
prove to us what is real or imaginary while the psychics,remote viewers,spiritual vampires etc use their higher sensory perception and satanic ritualistic power to control the masses...WHICH THEY DO.

Assumption. Where's the proof? I can appreciate those who recall past lives ... that is provable (although the tests need to be objectively designed to weed out charlatans, e.g. metaphysical proof). Alas, none of the esoteric dimensional stuff - that has plagued Nexus and the other alternative media forums - has so far met objective design ... just hearsay, wild conjectures, and outright charlatanry. An exception to the rule may be a thread or two on the study of reincarnation.

NO.we are here to awaken our higher senses so that we can KNOW how to play the REAL game...which is a war over CONCIOUSNESS...way beyond the 3d 5 sense reality understandings ...we must go way beyond politics,economics,3d mind debating...when we awaken our higher senses and ORGANIC GOD connection we will graduate...until then people who insist on sticking to the 3d mind 5 sense reality world view will continue to argue for their limitations and keep themselves trapped in their imaginary prisons...those who have awoken at least some of their higher senses KNOW this to be true...those who are addicted to internet forums and 3d mind debating don't even give themselves a chance to prove to themselves how real and powerful their extrasensory abilities are,,their monkey minds keep them occupied with relatively trivial matters

If we're all monkey minds here, and maybe we are ... at least there is honesty in that recognition. Honest people don't declare things beyond which they cannot manifest or prove. It's just not cricket, Mystic. Not when the clarity of mind is the mind's main purpose. Know thyself <------------ the identity function as applied to the self. This function can be applied across board ... to objects of any kind. When applied to the mind object, clarity is the destination. An unclear mind is one that has no target destination. Pursuing clarity then ... is not clutching at blind faith - but the exact opposite - because blind faith can never offer clarity. The false gurus know this ... so they do the next best thing and pretend clarity by performing magic tricks, suggestive programming, false manifestation, etc. All minds are geared for clarity. Unfortunately, all too many minds are weak and susceptible to false clarity.

When we develop clearer communication with our essence we no longer look outside ourselves for prosperity,health,authority etc,,,which takes all the power away from these outside forces that want us to remain stuck in the 3d 5 sense reality "solutions" to these issues...namely politicians,doctors,economists..all 3d 5 sense mind slaves...

BE SOVEREIGN.nurture your inner GOD CONNECTION...instead of the mind masturbation that you have been conditioned to believe will solve things,can't you see that you are just going around and around in your VERY limited view of yourself and reality...always theorising but not experiencing gets you nowhere fast

My Creator (henceforth referred to as such because I do not need to communicate to others that which is already known by them by their own brains) ... gave me my mind. My Creator designed the mind (and its encasing, eg. brain) to think for itself. MY Creator designed the mind with logic faculties. IMHO, faith is a runtime error of the logic function, procedure, subroutine, etc..



ps: You better fix your runtime errors, Mystic ... no one will fix them for you.

[Amerillo]

I need physical or metaphysical proofs ... not assertions and angels on a pin doing Bill Ray Cyrus's line dance on a point..

Zook you don't get it. The idea is to leave your critical mind and thinking behind and enter the blisfull state of nothingsness. You're wasting your time with these 3D dialectics...

[magamud]

The Scientific mind is a Virtue. Analyzing the semiosphere at its emergence. It then, hopefully, through Eternal Vigilance, unbiasedly categorizes, organizes to a level of communality understanding, so each can Choose for themselves. This is a grounding property that is lacking on the other pole...

Evidence beyond the virtuous scientist reference, will be put to the test in this Narrative. An excellent challenge to observe how anomalies get processed.

[ZookieMonster]

No. Unobservables include magnetic fields, X-rays, black holes, nuclear radiation, and perhaps even consciousness. No one observes them directly, but are they the stuff of blind faith? Our ability to "see" can change, and unobservables can become observables, if we know what to look for.

Unobservables <------ that which cannot be measured, not that which is not yet measured. In science parlance, observable and measurable are interchangeable terms.
Unobserved <-------- that which is not yet measured.

Hope that clears things up. That being said, when the time arrives when things are observed (e.g. discovered) ... then they automatically belong to the set of observables. Prior to initial discovery and change to observable status, all things are defaulted to the set of unobservables. Which is slightly different from the set of unobserved, because the unobserved has the (semantic) expectation of discovery, e.g. yet unobserved, i.e. in theory, but not yet in fact. Of course, one cannot have yet unobservable.

Is it a law, or a starting point? How much time is "too much"? What exactly is intuition? Why trust intuition over evidence and reason? What makes you think "complete" is a permanent state?
Yeah, that "question everything" maxim can be annoying, just like the "dismiss nothing" part....

Intuition, IMO, is a derivative of extensive exposure to evidence and reason, e.g. experiential wisdom.

As for completeness, I anchor the scope of the noun to human proportion and locality. I don't think it wise to look beyond our limited proportion and locality ... to the proportion and universality of our mutual omniscient Creator. We live in a small material container. Let's not aspire to things that wobble the WEEbles that we are, for all intents and purposes. Much - if not all - of the New Age stuff attempts to wobble us. And we being weebles can oblige and fall down ... or refuse and weeble on. Nothing wrong with weebling, my friend. Some of my merriest times are spent weebling along the real axis (on the Argand plane). No imagination required. Just my two eyes and their first cousin senses. Of course, I wobble from time to time by jumping off the real axis and onto the plane. And I stop weebling altogether in my dreams when the only sense I have is a pineal sense of things.

Getting back on course, your maxim would be more meaningful, IMO, if it was modified to "Question everything, dismiss some things.".

[reaver]

I'm not saying the 3d is worthless and that we should just sit and meditate all day...20 mins a day creates HUGE beneffits and breakthroughs for a LOT of people..just another example fo how unplugging from the matrix and connecting in to higher planes is SO important

You say it is not worthless, but the language you use points towards something different:

again...it's the game of keeping people stuck in the 3d mind 5 sense reality field that is the greatest tool of the controllers..if you want to base your "reality" at that level you will NEVER get far in the game..y

when we awaken our higher senses and ORGANIC GOD connection we will graduate...

Oh yeah some higher senses to connect to someone's god and graduate from the horrible 3D reality. Even tough the godhead permeates all reality, that fact would be erased from the subjects awareness to justify a quick escape to some far away dimension.

until then people who insist on sticking to the 3d mind 5 sense reality world view will continue to argue for their limitations and keep themselves trapped in their imaginary prisons...

And here you keep denying the mind. Even tough thoughts are in no way "3D", but of course the urge to escape is stronger that having the wisdom for self-contemplation.

When we develop clearer communication with our essence we no longer look outside ourselves for prosperity,health,authority etc,,,which takes all the power away from these outside forces that want us to remain stuck in the 3d 5 sense reality "solutions" to these issues...namely politicians,doctors,economists..all 3d 5 sense mind slaves...

An essence which according to you is in some far away 5 dimensional space. The language which provides escapism keeps surfacing, you equal the 5 senses and the mind as the prison itself... even if they can be used for progress you rather deny it and embrace some comfortable 5D space.

.and almost everything I post is about recognising that the issues we face come from beyond 3d 5 sense reality structures SO THE SOLUTIONS NEED to come from there as well...

Why is it that you aren't willing to think about things SERIOUSLY beyond the 5sense 3d mind cage you are so firmly imprisoning yourselves in.

And should we now adopt a 5D energetic cage provided by Inellia, Renee and/or Ashayana Deane? let the so called true light take over? let the guardians of Ashayana activate the stargates? Place faith in Renee's legions of Indigos?

Our intuition and inner self/guidance is so much wiser than our 3d linear minds will ever be...this part of ourselves informs us what actions to take in 3d and above so much better than the rational linear mind will ever be able to do

Yeah so we should proceed to severe the connection with mind and body, no?. For some reason it seems that the axiom "As above, so below" is foreign to you, instead of trying to establish a healthy connection between the different aspects of Self, you rather obliterate the ugly physical aspect... yet you are trapped in the 3D prison too, to reduce the pain you have to rely on some "higher senses"?. You say the mind is linear by default, guess it escapes you than you can train your mind to be more dynamic.

[magamud]

Right on point Reaver. Krystic is giving us a good example of intuition stretching for conceptualization and thank God he is here to tough it out. This analogy is much like the optic nerve. With this in mind you can see the seriousness of the situation and how easy you can sell your soul. This makes more sense when you couple the possibility of consciousness and matter closing the Gap, maybe like the dreamworld and the Real world coming together. This New Agism Blind spot is in epidemic proportions. Polarized Intuitives and Scientists oh my.

I am giving credit to K for holding a truth intuitively. Not that he would want it...

[Jenci]

When we develop clearer communication with our essence we no longer look outside ourselves for prosperity,health,authority etc,,,which takes all the power away from these outside forces that want us to remain stuck in the 3d 5 sense reality "solutions" to these issues...namely politicians,doctors,economists..all 3d 5 sense mind slaves...

BE SOVEREIGN.nurture your inner GOD CONNECTION...instead of the mind masturbation that you have been conditioned to believe will solve things,can't you see that you are just going around and around in your VERY limited view of yourself and reality...always theorising but not experiencing gets you nowhere fast

Hi Krystic,

It's one thing to know what Consciousness is, it's another thing to perceive life as Consciousness - it's perception is no judgement, no critisim, no division, no conflict, no argument, no 'better than'.

From reading your posts, this is not what you are promoting.

Our linear minds are very clever and can trick us into believing they are Consciousness but the very nature of how we perceive life, gives away the mind's trickery.

Jeanette

[Odah]

i love that little box people who think they are advanced or beyon the game get into when they look at humanity ..with contempt .. it is quite amusing.. as it puts them in a mindset close to those who rule the world ..

in any case you are still in the 3d 5 sence game while your human and living on the surface of the earth ..for the very near future anyway ..part of being enlightened is to not take yourself so seriously ... and to avoid ego driven contempt filled posts about the rest of humanity ..

[magamud]

Hi Krystic,

It's one thing to know what Consciousness is, it's another thing to perceive life as Consciousness -
Whats the difference?
it's perception is no judgement, no critisim, no division, no conflict, no argument, no 'better than'.
OY Vey the no mind thing again...

From reading your posts, this is not what you are promoting.
I think hes pointing in the same direction but has not lost is analytical mind as of yet!

Our linear minds are very clever and can trick us into believing they are Consciousness
Obviously

but the very nature of how we perceive life, gives away the mind's trickery.
Any Mind would be considered Trickery for you J.

Jeanette

oy gevalt....
Your perception is True J, its just a matter of application and Wisdom. Its not a Platitude!

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i love that little box people who think they are advanced or beyon the game get into when they look at humanity ..with contempt .. it is quite amusing.. as it puts them in a mindset close to those who rule the world ..

in any case you are still in the 3d 5 sence game while your human and living on the surface of the earth ..for the very near future anyway ..part of being enlightened is to not take yourself so seriously ... and to avoid ego driven contempt filled posts about the rest of humanity ..

Who the Fu ck are you talking about OD?
Or maybe you should take your own advice on contempt?

[reaver]

I figure the dialectic has been fed by sociopathic beings and human stupidity, one could argue on which one has a deeper impact. Compartments have been created where you either ground yourself in physical reality and glorify it or you go "beyond" the physical reality and glorify that which is beyond your grasp while you lose physical awareness. To an extent it looks like a nexus between the physical and other facets of Self and existence is undesireable. You have to wonder about forces who would want the schism between religion/intuition/philosophy and science/reason/logic to keep burning in people's psyche. In a sense this cancerous dialectic is reflected in the systematic murder of Self. The different parts of Self are seen (by some) as separate entities with actual barriers, I'd say a more healthy approach is to see the different parts of Self as points of reference with a sort of membrane -as Magamud puts it-. One would hope this membrane won't comparmentalize the different aspects of Self, yet at the same time it won't allow a complete chaos where the different aspects are mashed up together to the point where Self-identity becomes a hideous mess.