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    Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/meet...isnt-a-female/

    Interesting story about a male model who is perfectly androgynous. Ok, could this be the goal? Make us all androgynous?



    He's beautiful in the classic sense. He does male and female modeling for major covers and fashion designers. The article is interesting as re the bigoted comments. It certainly brings out the nasty side of people.



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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    I wonder if he's really human........

    Conspiracies everywhere, but he's here, he's hot, and he's apparently everywhere. Does anything happen by chance in media? This is the image being sold to our children and young people. Some might say he's the penultimate Indigo. shrugging shoulders... I am not sure what to think, but he seems awfully sweet.



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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    Never seen this model before now. But hey, he's better looking than half the chicks I went to school with!

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    I would much rather be in a world where a guy like that can capatilize on his feminine look ..and be adored instead of forced to hit the gym and buff up ..ridiculed and called names..

    there is definitly a redifining of the roles of men and women..it is hidden but it is even going on in the middle east ..

    i am waiting for the fashion designer to start comming out with huigh fashion dayware Pajamas ..so many women running around in the afternoon in their pj's ..

    I don't think it's bad that guy are able to show feminine attributes without being accused of being gay..


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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    He is just a transgender person. They've been around forever, but don't usually come out in the public. This is just another version of making gender-bending ideas and operations the new thing.

    Anyone else catch the butterfly (monarch programming) @ 1:46? They are subconsciously programming us into seeing this as the new person.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1FrqwZyKw&ob=av2e

    In this video, Lady Gaga shows us that this is the new person. Around 4:40 to 5:00, you can see clearly they want to make us all into this new person, most likely with genetic engineering. This is their way of cutting us off from nature, burning the bridges to God so to speak, such that we are no longer able to make ourselves whole and such that we will need them to be our God.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    Quote Originally Posted by sjkted View Post
    Anyone else catch the butterfly (monarch programming) @ 1:46? They are subconsciously programming us into seeing this as the new person.
    Yes, the butterfly on the mouth is a very common image.


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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    And what does it mean?

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    And, further whether or not anyone here recognizes it, Andrej is the ?bermensch.

    A brief primer here for those not aware of what I'm talking about:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubermensch

    In the words of Nietzsche, God is dead.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    I think the message being propogated is "We are God"

    Being male or female makes us, at a fundamental level, incomplete, mortal and therefore not godlike.

    God does not need to procreate, because God just is - asexual, complete and omnipotent.

    When we transcend gender we become godlike.

    Many similar concepts can be seen in the Gnostic gospels - pretty much why a lot of books were excluded from the early Christian canon.

    Many people focus on the importance of what is in the bible. I would say there is also importance in what was excluded from the Judeo/Christian canon - and why.

    Of course, this is all blasphemous to mainstream religion - which is pretty much the intention. The old religious paradigm has served it's purpose for the elite - time for a new one; hence New Age Thinking and Religion.

    Androgeny is the new kid on the block - God is no longer one God is everyone.

    Not preaching rights or wrongs - just telling it how it is.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    No truer words have been said Nazirite.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    Quote Originally Posted by sjkted View Post
    And what does it mean?

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    This may be useful:

    Definition and Description

    The name MONARCH is not necessarily defined within the context of royal nobility, but rather refers to the monarch butterfly.



    When a person is undergoing trauma induced by electroshock, a feeling of light-headedness is evidenced; as if one is floating or fluttering like a butterfly. There is also a symbolic representation pertaining to the transformation or metamorphosis of this beautiful insect: from a caterpillar to a cocoon (dormancy, inactivity), to a butterfly (new creation) which will return to its point of origin. Such is the migratory pattern that makes this species unique.

    Occultic symbolism may give additional insight into the true meaning Psyche is the word for both "soul" and "butterfly" coming from the belief that human souls become butterflies while searching for a new reincarnation. [9]

    Some ancient mystical groups, such as the Gnostics, saw the butterfly as a symbol of corrupt flesh. The "Angel of Death" (remember Mengele?) in Gnostic art was portrayed crushing the butterfly.[10]



    A marionette is a puppet that is attached to strings and is controlled by the puppet master, hence MONARCH programming is also referred to as the "Marionette Syndrome." "Imperial Conditioning" is another term used, while some mental health therapists know it as "Conditioned Stimulus Response Sequences."

    Project MONARCH could be best described as a form of structured dissociation and occultic integration, in order to compartmentalize the mind into multiple personalities within a systematic framework. During this process, a Satanic ritual, usually including Cabalistic mysticism, is performed with the purpose of attaching a particular demon or group of demons to the corresponding alter(s).



    Of course, most skeptics would view this as simply a means to enhance trauma within the victim negating any irrational belief that demonic possession actually occurs.
    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so..._mindcon02.htm




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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    Here we go:

    Holy Hermaphrodite Baphomet!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet


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    Quote Originally Posted by Unified Serenity View Post
    This may be useful:
    Sure is;

    "Curiouser and curiouser"; said Alice.

    Back down the Rabbit Hole.......

    Amazing how all this stuff links together hey?


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    It first appeared in 11th and 12th century Latin and Proven?al as a corruption of "Mahomet", the Latinisation of "Muhammad",[1] but later it appeared as a term for a pagan idol in trial transcripts of the Inquisition of the Knights Templar in the early 14th century.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet

    Templars, Mohammed, Muslims?, (Obama...?)
    Its a weird rabbit hole indeed.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    wow. reminds me thailand. you see some beautiful humans and can easily do a double take!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ?uestions View Post
    wow. reminds me thailand. you see some beautiful humans and can easily do a double take!
    Never been to Thailand - but I'm sure Lady Boys are just the same when it comes to finding sincere and fulfilling love.

    Everyone needs a hug, yes?


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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    I would much rather be in a world where a guy like that can capatilize on his feminine look ..and be adored instead of forced to hit the gym and buff up ..ridiculed and called names..
    Capitalizing is one thing. Would you like to be in a world where little boys are taught to look up to men who look like women and encouraged to be more feminine, while at the same time little girls are encouraged to be more assertive and dominant?

    And if that doesn't bother you, how about the idea of living in a world where you can no longer procreate naturally or must go to the government to get a license in order to "order" a genetically-engineered child?

    For a reference on what this world would look like, watch the movie Children of Men (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_men). Keep in mind also this is a one-way road. We can't just decide some time in the future that this can be un-done.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    This meme has nothing to do with improving society nor the human condition. Philosophical androgeny is one thing, but what you are seeing here is another phase of dissociation, you are being encouraged to erase your self-identity, but of course it will be done with beautiful lights and beautiful people.

    I mean just look at the video, the guy doesn't even have a sense of identity, he's stuck in limbo. Eventually such thing eats you from the inside.

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    Re: Alternative Model??? Andrej Pejic

    This is something which is closely related to transhumanism: http://nexus.2012info.ca/forum/showt...nd-playing-God

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjkted View Post
    Capitalizing is one thing. Would you like to be in a world where little boys are taught to look up to men who look like women and encouraged to be more feminine, while at the same time little girls are encouraged to be more assertive and dominant?

    And if that doesn't bother you, how about the idea of living in a world where you can no longer procreate naturally or must go to the government to get a license in order to "order" a genetically-engineered child?
    Building a Strawman there Sjkted.


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    There is another side to this and that is for those who are born and do not fit the box that the society has created for them, such as women cannot be assertive, and while if they are they are called, "Bitches", but if a man does it, then it's him just asserting himself and within his rights and he is applauded. The flipside of course is the male who is not assertive / competitive and he is treated as less than and called a "sissy" or "girly man". Some people are naturally more assertive than others or less assertive than others, it's THEIR nature. The society ostracizes such individuals because it makes THEM uncomfortable and those individuals have to deal with the ridicule all their lives.

    Some women want to work in a non-traditional role for women and they have been denied that right. Tight restrictions have been placed on women most of our lives and it has not been until recently that women have demanded the opportunity to work in such fields, and I'm not just talking about physically challenging areas, but areas that require more mental work like engineering, doctors, lawyers etc.. Women are still locked out of most higher level areas via the good ol' boys network and we know that as the glass ceiling. There is also the side that the women have to be superior to the average male in those fields just to get basic respect.

    So, I am not comfortable with simply blaming the social engineers who have pigeon holed these issues to control men and women, mostly women though have paid the price economically as fewer men have wanted to go into "women's" fields which tend to pay less than the average male oriented job. Equality should mean if you are qualified then you can get the job. Of course for me, that would mean qualified without special exceptions due to strength issues. Not many women can physically do the demanding aspect of say a firefighter, electrician or such. If you want to enter that job area, then be able to do the job, it's pretty simple in my book.



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    This meme has nothing to do with improving society nor the human condition. Philosophical androgeny is one thing, but what you are seeing here is another phase of dissociation, you are being encouraged to erase your self-identity, but of course it will be done with beautiful lights and beautiful people.

    I mean just look at the video, the guy doesn't even have a sense of identity, he's stuck in limbo. Eventually such thing eats you from the inside.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazirite View Post
    Building a Strawman there Sjkted.
    This stuff is going on right before our eyes. I put up evidence and you call it a strawman.

    Most of us know about Agenda 21, "smart" growth, and ICLEI. We've seen the Georgia Guidestones and research into any of these UN documents show there are actually population quotas and this is a big topic.

    It's common knowledge that children are produced when men and women have sex. Their plan is to distort gender identity so that men do not know how to behave as men and women do not know how to act as women. They have also destroyed the family unit with Disney and by forcing women into the work place as well as the homes/foreclosure crisis and the economic crisis. This means that it is nearly impossible to have a family today.

    There are further programs to make children wards of the state with increased vaccination and if one reads the new laws throughout the world, children are now owned by the state.

    Next stage, GMO's are a trojan horse. In each generation, they decrease fertility. There are many animal trials which show that within three generations, fertility is completely gone:

    In study after study, the effects of fertility were alarming, claim researchers. In one report, the testicles of some animals actually changed colors from a normal pink to an alarming blue after being fed GMO produced feed. In addition, sperm was shown to be altered, resulting in fewer pregnancies overall. DNA too has shown alterations after ingesting even the smallest amount of GMO foods.

    But, males are not the only ones being affected by GMOs. Female fertility too is under attack. Female animals being studied showed an alarming increase in an inability to get pregnant as well as a spike in premature births; low birth weight babies and infant moralities after being fed a regular diet of GMO. Rats given GMO feed in Europe were shown to give birth to babies that regularly died within weeks of their birth (sometimes as many as 99%), compared to only a 10% mortality rate for those fed regular feed.
    http://natural-fertility-info.com/gmo-infertility.html

    http://boston.todaysmama.com/2011/05...birth-defects/

    http://www.organicconsumers.org/arti...icle_15588.cfm

    So, the boys will not be acting like men anymore with the smaller testes and lower testosterone levels.

    In addition, it would behoove you to do some more research into these occult plans and symbols. This is exactly what they have been planning and this is anything but a strawman.

    --sjkted

    ---------- Post added at 16:10 ---------- Previous post was at 16:05 ----------

    Some women want to work in a non-traditional role for women and they have been denied that right. Tight restrictions have been placed on women most of our lives and it has not been until recently that women have demanded the opportunity to work in such fields, and I'm not just talking about physically challenging areas, but areas that require more mental work like engineering, doctors, lawyers etc.. Women are still locked out of most higher level areas via the good ol' boys network and we know that as the glass ceiling. There is also the side that the women have to be superior to the average male in those fields just to get basic respect.
    This is hegelian dialectic, aka problem, reaction, solution. Split us all up into groups. The men get chained to their desk at work. The women get chained to the kitchen at home. The minorities are subverted by Jim Crow laws and government cheese.

    Fast forward 50 years. Who woulda' thunk it? The men don't all want to be tied to a permanent 9-5 job until they have a midlife crisis. Some women ... gasp ... actually want to have careers away from the home. And, the blacks and Hispanics want to have well paying jobs also.

    So, then we present the solution. Two incomes are now required for most to make it. And we now have an artificial elevation of women and minorities in the workplace. Problem solved? Nope, but at least some people may feel like we have made progress.

    --sjkted


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